which Payment method after gambling bill

drhuynh

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i all,

I have played online for almost 2 years now, but for the last 2 years I used mainly moneybookers and firepay. However, there are many good sportsbook/casino sites that only allow using creditcard like visa/mastercard
as the deposit methods. And more important, as of the time of this writting, Firepay gonna stop US customers from doing any transactions in a few weeks. I hope moneybookers and Neteller will not follow this path.

Anyways, Do you guys know which which credit card/debit card can be used for depositting. All the cards i have does not allow me to deposit directly due
to the gambling ban on the card from the bank. All the regular credit cards I have don't work. I also have a prepaid Visa-electron from epassporte but it does not work either. Is it possible to obtain such a card in the State that can be used for online gambling. I heard you can buy prepaid Mastercards to play online but don't know where. I know I am sounding clueless :rolleyes: . Thanks.
 

frufrugirl

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There was a thread a while back (3wks?) that had info on prepaid cards. I dont know where you are from, east or west...but in the west you can buy prepaid visas at almost any circle K , Major gas stations with stores in them, Safeway store, Bartells....so..next time you are in a drug store..ask for prepaid visa, mc...or..try your major grocery store...let us know how it works! Ive heard it does.:) ps..try doing a search under prepaid cards....or gift cards..
 
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Simmo!

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From the online version of the The Wall Street Journal on October 12

A Neteller PLC executive said the British company, which handles payments for online gambling companies and others, will continue to operate in the U.S., despite the recent passage of antigambling legislation.

"We are staying in the U.S.," said Bruce Elliott, Neteller's executive vice president, marketing and sales, told a online gambling conference in Barcelona. ...

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yameater

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I use Instadebit, its free and fast, they take it right from your bank account

I'm with you BABS. In fact, I like Instadebit better than Neteller. I hope both will hang in for USplayers. Maybe after midterm elections, the NEW congress will rethink the insane Gambling legislation issue.
 

handkey

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Good news from Simmo that neteller still works in US.

Click2pay is a good payment method too. It supports all microgaming casinos.
 

babs7262

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Click2pay

I hope you have better luck. You wont believe what they did to me. I did a predelay (my very first dep into a casino, live and learn) anyway, they double charged me the same $25.....not only did they ADMIT IT but was even worse ....................are you ready???......................

They charged me a $10 fee for my bank taking back the $25 THEY OVERTOOK. This is no joke, I had the paperwork to prove it and they would not give the $10 bank charge back, infact, it took me emailing our local nbc10 news consumer alert and THEM calling click2pay to resolve it and give me atleast the other $15

NEVER AGAIN
 

frufrugirl

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Ya know, Ive had click2pay for awhile now, never had a problem with them other than they are so darn sloooooooowwww. I wonder if this type of action is the start of institutions taking advantage of US players situation with the no gambling act. (oh they wont complain, they will be afraid of getting caught gambling?) Just a thought, far fetched but hey- we've seen some pretty outrageous behaviour by Casinos.....:eek2:
 

Cynthia777

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Several casino groups have told me that they think the best payment solution will be payspark.


Yeah.. once you have everything in to them (copies of credit card, driver's license etc.).. it works great. They can even send you a card you can use right at the ATM when you have your winnings transferred (always pretty quick, too). And now (sorry, don't mean to sound like a "plug" for them ;) ), they offer e-check funding right from your bank account. Only hassle if any is having to scan and copy the documents and email it to them, but that's pretty much how all e-wallets are.
 

venetian

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Click to pay wants my social security number. That makes me very uncomfortable. Looked at Payspark and only saw the option for credit card funding. Can anyone clear this up for me and advise which one is the better choice? I have Instadebit which I really like but I have had them for 2 months and they have not raised my amount to deposit. It is so low that I get frustrated and want another option. I have emailed them and asked when they would raise it and they said that it is automatic and they had no control over it.
 

Cynthia777

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Payspark's main site lists an option near the bottom (says something like, click here for the Flash version). Once you click on that (not sure why its not all incorporated onto the main site), you will see the option for adding a bank account (and it can be either checking OR savings..which is good for those with a savings acct only).

Or..here is the direct link:

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Pepmintpatty

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Use PaySpark all the time, customer service answers emails almost immediately. Have never had a problem depositing or withdrawing:thumbsup:
 
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venetian

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Payspark's main site lists an option near the bottom (says something like, click here for the Flash version). Once you click on that (not sure why its not all incorporated onto the main site), you will see the option for adding a bank account (and it can be either checking OR savings..which is good for those with a savings acct only).

Or..here is the direct link:

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Thanks Cynthia777 but I must be blind cause I don't see anything on that page about the flash version. I've logged on and looked, read their T&C's and FAQ's and emailed them twice about it. I've never read anything about adding a bank account. Very frustrating!
 

wangpoker

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Thanks Cynthia777 but I must be blind cause I don't see anything on that page about the flash version. I've logged on and looked, read their T&C's and FAQ's and emailed them twice about it. I've never read anything about adding a bank account. Very frustrating!


Don't use flash version.
 

frufrugirl

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Im confused. Why would it be better to use payspark other than neteller, click2pay ect? Isnt the law saying its a no no to use electronic transfer of funds from a bank to an institution that funds casinos? ie debit, credit card, echeck ect. Maybe I should go to them and read terms but if someone has a quick answer for me it would help. Thanks!:)
 

Cynthia777

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Thanks Cynthia777 but I must be blind cause I don't see anything on that page about the flash version. I've logged on and looked, read their T&C's and FAQ's and emailed them twice about it. I've never read anything about adding a bank account. Very frustrating!

Venetian..don't log on first.. scroll down the page, here's a screenshot (see under "Important Notices"...) Just did my first successful one yesterday (and its instant)
 

Cynthia777

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Im confused. Why would it be better to use payspark other than neteller, click2pay ect? Isnt the law saying its a no no to use electronic transfer of funds from a bank to an institution that funds casinos? ie debit, credit card, echeck ect. Maybe I should go to them and read terms but if someone has a quick answer for me it would help. Thanks!:)

The law is still very vague but I'm supposing for those who choose to continue as long as they can (myself included) and the interpretation of the law.. just talking about other venues rather than using credit cards DIRECTLY in an online casino's banking platform. I guess the only reason I mentioned Payspark is because of my experience with it, and the fact that Neteller is unfortunately unavailable to residents in Maryland, where I live. But whatever method works well for you, I would continue to use.
 

silcnlayc

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I forgot to mention that on Friday (the day of signing) I received my final cash from Firepay and was charged $10.00 to withdraw my funds before my account was closed by them. Anyone else have this fee charged? This was a first for me (the charge that is). Geezes...:mad:
 

huny2

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this is really spooky..

My sister played this weekend using Neteller and her bank called her today and asked her if she knew that her account was being used for online gambling. (this has never happened in five years of online gaming)
Of course she said yes, otherwise they would have charged back the neteller charges. Does that mean they are going to send her name in to the feds? Can she be prosecuted? Will they be watching her? Has this happened to anyone else? :confused:

btw, she is not in one of the states that are listed as illegal.
 

Cynthia777

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I received a couple of calls from my bank (my debit card there used to authorize online gambling transactions, or maybe it just slipped through somehow) but after a couple of times using it their corporate security called to advise/ask me if I knew this was used for online gambling. That was about a month ago, before the signing of this bill. They even put a "freeze" on my card until I called them back. And told me they would not authorize these charges anymore. That was scary but they never "went after me". I couldn't even use them to fund Payspark anymore..so apparently some banks will even block webwallets. Weirdest thing about that was, Payspark's corporate financial institution is the same as my bank!! My bank's motto is "The World's Local Bank"..go figure. But I guess when it comes to online gambling...it is still their policy to deny.

I would not worry, but I would be sure to (if she's able to) change the funding she uses for Neteller and definitely not make any more transactions via that bank. There is so much vagueness surrounding this issue, and it would still be unbeknowngst to many people. She could state "I didn't know", or "wasn't sure, thought it was OK"...and be seen as completely innocent. Just be careful from now on, now that she's had somewhat of a "warning" from the bank.
 

ballysdb

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My bank started to call me when I used my debit card to purchase at online casinos. This was about 2 years ago. It may have been the beginning of banks worrying about the gambling bill. They do not let me purchase through my credit card since then. I would have absolutely no worries that they would report your name to the feds. Don't give it another thought. They are just protecting their butts. I guess I'll be visiting A/C and Mohegan Sun alot more now.
 

venetian

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