Where have all the bonuses gone?

[Harry_BKK]

As long as you don't dip into the bonus funds, yeah.

would love to register at your casino but it seems Thailand is not on your world map...have to move to Cambodia or Timor Leste been to both countries and can hardly believe you get that many punters from those places ..... just kidding

do you have any plans to make your casino available in TH?

 

[BETAT]

Lol Harry,

I'll check how come its not on the country list.

Will PM you shortly

would love to register at your casino but it seems Thailand is not on your world map...have to move to Cambodia or Timor Leste been to both countries and can hardly believe you get that many punters from those places ..... just kidding

do you have any plans to make your casino available in TH?

 

[hedgehok]

You'll love it there. Great casino (despite the rants).

 

[keiller]

Great Casino Betat the best in my opinion especially the freeze your gameplay until the withdrawal is processed

 

[asadzareef89]

well after a month i get an email from betsafe about some challenge, first challenge was wager 20 quid on any slot for mystery riddle with fs, completed it, got 5 fs on flowers with 15 lines activated and won 0

First time, i have got reduced lines fs on netent slot from any casino

Should we start worrying about all the netent promos we get with fs? i know it happens very often with mg but its a first for me from netent

 

[hausse222]

thats ugly

 

[brianmon]

Once advice i'd give to players is to try and keep their bonus to deposit ratio to under 25% over any extended period of time. if you consider that on average, casino will keep between 20 and 30% of all deposits as revenue, and you are running at 80% bonus to deposit ratio, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why that's not good for the bottom line. In that case the budget is diverted to reward a more balanced customer... at least with operators that take their bottom line into consideration, or know how to

AS far as Betat goes. is that based on claiming deposit bonuses and cash-back bonuses, or actually using them?
Since it's possible to claim a bonus or cash-back offer. Then cash-out (assuming you haven't used any of the bonus money, or lost enough to trigger the cash-back).
So technically you've only actually played with your own money

 

[dreamguardian1]

I just asked a similar question to us in the America thread. Because i have my opinion on it and my feelings are that any bonus code just keeps the player playing until they lose it all due to the high rollover amounts. So that if you do get one good spin of say $200. plus you are not going to be able to cash out due to the rollover. Historically, i have found that bonus codes are for the casino and not the player and only in rare cases do people ever get to cashout. Now there are the rare cases where people do cashout hugely from bonus codes but mostly i see they eventually lose it or cannot meet the rollover and lose it all. Whenever i get any bonus codes in my email box or see them in the casino, i immediately break out my calculator and start calculating and 9 times out of 10, the rollover is way to high even on a low deposit to ever bother with it. The theory that you are still playing with your own money confuses me, because while yes you are playing with your own money on the deposit, you are not going to be able to cash out any winnings you could have had if you would not have used the bonus code in the first place. Again this is only my thoughts on it, many others are going to think differently or the same or have a different view based either upon their experiences or just not knowing how bonus codes actually work. I recently answered a survey about bonus codes which I firmly believe that bonus codes are a bane in the industry just to get more players money and not pay people out.

 

[spintee]

I have just been informed by a secret source, If there books are healthy they chuck you a bonus or send out emails, If alot of withdraws have been made and not so many depos than you get nothing, They have a bar that if its on yellow than to send out emails with a few spins and any one moans than to chuck than a chip, If on red than do not give nothing or they will not get there wage

 

[dreamguardian1]

I have a question. With sooo many players on 32reds bonus ban list. Why are they still accredited? While i have my own personal issues with bonus codes, i am not going to begrude any other player from using them to try and win, more power them. I would think that something like this would hurt the casinos accreditation not to mention reputation.

 

[dreamguardian1]

I have just been informed by a secret source, If there books are healthy they chuck you a bonus or send out emails, If alot of withdraws have been made and not so many depos than you get nothing, They have a bar that if its on yellow than to send out emails with a few spins and any one moans than to chuck than a chip, If on red than do not give nothing or they will not get there wage

This does not surprise me at all. This runs along the same lines as my inside source telling me they can change the odds of winning at any given time by hitting a button same as regular casinos.

 

[spintee]

I have a question. With sooo many players on 32reds bonus ban list. Why are they still accredited? While i have my own personal issues with bonus codes, i am not going to begrude any other player from using them to try and win, more power them. I would think that something like this would hurt the casinos accreditation not to mention reputation.

It does hurt reputation as why you see so many post about it,

90% Of my deposits are bonus related, But nether been bared, Most probs as I always lose, But can see how frustrating it is for players as there nether seems to be a good answer, Some people are down, some not deposit as much,some people took to many? Well what is it? Seems like its getting passed on again, Somebody must know the score & maybe if told players it would work better for the casino,
Why so many secrets in this business, Its why CS know shit all as I bet there told nothing, Just keep players sweet is there job and that does not work out to well either

 

[dreamguardian1]

I think then we need to recommend that issues like this also affect the accredditation process or at the very least hurt the accreditation scores. This is huge for many players and i dont think it is right at all especially if its not being abused. If they offer the bonus no matter how many bonuses you have the right to use that bonus without worry and I would be one of the first ones to call them on it. Oh wait a minute i am doing that now BAD MOVE 32red.

 

[spintee]

This is my last shout on this topic

I must admit bonus have dried up, I do not no the reason casinos chose to pin such players, such as give this person a bonus and not the other,

I personally love a bonus & If I do not get offered one threw email them simply not play there,

We have to bear in mind that bonus is a perk an extra for us, Maybe if casino did let lose there sats than we think diffrent but I do not think thats going to happen in a hurry,

No casino is there for the good of there heart, If I was in charge I would certainly make sure players get a fair shout, But remeber that casino only hire the games and they have no say who wins and who does not, I have many of tin foils hats,

Just maybe if some body told the real reason things happen in this industry than may be there would not be so many hats, I have had person emails sent from ex employe's from sites, If you believed what they say than I doubt any of us would be gambling

 

[dreamguardian1]

This is my last shout on this topic

I must admit bonus have dried up, I do not no the reason casinos chose to pin such players, such as give this person a bonus and not the other,

I personally love a bonus & If I do not get offered one threw email them simply not play there,

We have to bear in mind that bonus is a perk an extra for us, Maybe if casino did let lose there sats than we think diffrent but I do not think thats going to happen in a hurry,

No casino is there for the good of there heart, If I was in charge I would certainly make sure players get a fair shout, But remeber that casino only hire the games and they have no say who wins and who does not, I have many of tin foils hats,

Just maybe if some body told the real reason things happen in this industry than may be there would not be so many hats, I have had person emails sent from ex employe's from sites, If you believed what they say than I doubt any of us would be gambling

You are very much correct about this. Although not sure that most bonuses are a perk but thats just my opinion. I have a very dear friend of mine who has worked at every casino in Reno and Vegas and worked for a time for an accredited online casino, that is accredited on here, thank god they do not take US players because i would be in the America thread going HELL TO THE NO. This person is the most honest person i know, she was a singer at the live casinos and the stories she told me about what transpires and how people win and lose had my mouth hanging on the floor. You are very much correct that if everyone knew the truth about what really goes on the gambling industry would be totally shut down. That said, all that would do is push it back into the black market even moreso than it is now. But i do agree there needs to be honesty and i only play at casinos anymore that at least have a ltitle bit of honesty and integrity and when i see something that is wrong i am going to call them on it

Hang in there.

 

[spintee]

You are very much correct about this. Although not sure that most bonuses are a perk but thats just my opinion. I have a very dear friend of mine who has worked at every casino in Reno and Vegas and worked for a time for an accredited online casino, that is accredited on here, thank god they do not take US players because i would be in the America thread going HELL TO THE NO. This person is the most honest person i know, she was a singer at the live casinos and the stories she told me about what transpires and how people win and lose had my mouth hanging on the floor. You are very much correct that if everyone knew the truth about what really goes on the gambling industry would be totally shut down. That said, all that would do is push it back into the black market even moreso than it is now. But i do agree there needs to be honesty and i only play at casinos anymore that at least have a ltitle bit of and when i see something that is wrong i am going to call them on it

Hang in there.

Its true, Alot of shit goes on,

I have always said rules are rules, You either take them or leave them, I do not agree with alot but at least make things clear,
There has been many of threads of people bonus banned and canot redeem points? Well give the players a good reason why not, Holding things back is not good & only puts more doubt in minds,

honesty and integrity as you mentioned would be a good starting point, There is a good few casion out there but as always theres alot not only to do you in but take you to the cleaners

 

[BETAT]

I have just been informed by a secret source, If there books are healthy they chuck you a bonus or send out emails, If alot of withdraws have been made and not so many depos than you get nothing, They have a bar that if its on yellow than to send out emails with a few spins and any one moans than to chuck than a chip, If on red than do not give nothing or they will not get there wage

Are you talking about us?

 

[spintee]

Are you talking about us?

Nooo It was a joke across the board

No your not a bad site, Well top over the most out there,

But I have had messages from numerals ex employees, I guess I am not the only one, I do not publish this due to Its not fair on sites if its not true, Again not had no correspondence from your sites, So you either treat them well or nothing going on out the ordinary

 

[BETAT]

AS far as Betat goes. is that based on claiming deposit bonuses and cash-back bonuses, or actually using them?
Since it's possible to claim a bonus or cash-back offer. Then cash-out (assuming you haven't used any of the bonus money, or lost enough to trigger the cash-back).
So technically you've only actually played with your own money

Our dynamic inclusion in offers are quite complex. For example if a player has 5-6 consecutive deposits, each with a match and nothing without (aka,. only comes on when there is an offer), they will be switched to a cash-back offering for next few emails to see if they have a tendency to deposit without a bonnie, or they'll get more freespins but less dep matches... or we'll go wager based promotions, races, etc.. It's not dead-set and to answer your question regarding claiming vs utilising, claimed bonuses do go into the measurements but utilisation of them is considered (due to their cost)

It's aimed at trying to balance the marketing budgets appropriately. It's not nice to have a player depositing X times, with/without a bonus and offer them the same incentives as to a player that ONLY deposits with bonus. It's not fair on the first player to not be rewarded for their loyalty not matter whether it's "bought" with a bonus or not. I hope that makes sense

 

[brianmon]

Our dynamic inclusion in offers are quite complex. For example if a player has 5-6 consecutive deposits, each with a match and nothing without (aka,. only comes on when there is an offer), they will be switched to a cash-back offering for next few emails to see if they have a tendency to deposit without a bonnie, or they'll get more freespins but less dep matches... or we'll go wager based promotions, races, etc.. It's not dead-set and to answer your question regarding claiming vs utilising, claimed bonuses do go into the measurements but utilisation of them is considered (due to their cost)

It's aimed at trying to balance the marketing budgets appropriately. It's not nice to have a player depositing X times, with/without a bonus and offer them the same incentives as to a player that ONLY deposits with bonus. It's not fair on the first player to not be rewarded for their loyalty not matter whether it's "bought" with a bonus or not. I hope that makes sense

Hmm, I must remember to abuse the match bonuses, lol, I much prefer 100% or 50% cashback rather than 100% or 50% match bonus, as long as it's awarded straight after it's earned, rather days later. it's much easier to wager with your current wagering requirements

£50 deposit + £50 bonus @ 25x D+B= £2500 wagering
£50 deposit + £50 Cashback @ 15x B = £750 wagering

So in order to be in the same position when hitting the bonus of £50 as when starting on the cashback of £50, I would have had to have wagered £1750 with my initial deposit of £50

 

[spintee]

Hmm, I must remember to abuse the match bonuses, lol, I much prefer 100% or 50% cashback rather than 100% or 50% match bonus, as long as it's awarded straight after it's earned, rather days later. it's much easier to wager with your current wagering requirements

£50 deposit + £50 bonus @ 25x D+B= £2500 wagering
£50 deposit + £50 Cashback @ 15x B = £750 wagering

So in order to be in the same position when hitting the bonus of £50 as when starting on the cashback of £50, I would have had to have wagered £1750 with my initial deposit of £50

I can rite a list how bonus work, Ive always said betat as got the best wager going, Not only can you withdraw if touch bonus but wager starts as soon as you start spinning,

So all good from players POV

I have beef with them, but do not knock a casion when they give you a good ofer, I only speak truth, So credit where is due

 

[asadzareef89]

Hmm, I must remember to abuse the match bonuses, lol, I much prefer 100% or 50% cashback rather than 100% or 50% match bonus, as long as it's awarded straight after it's earned, rather days later. it's much easier to wager with your current wagering requirements

£50 deposit + £50 bonus @ 25x D+B= £2500 wagering
£50 deposit + £50 Cashback @ 15x B = £750 wagering

So in order to be in the same position when hitting the bonus of £50 as when starting on the cashback of £50, I would have had to have wagered £1750 with my initial deposit of £50

I personally dont mind the wagering as my main aim is either atleast 15x deposit or max entertainment, but till last week they had a promotion running on wednesdays which offered 25% match

I deposited 50 for 12.5 bonus n wagering was 1250, considering i only play doa 90% my wr would be 2500 which is 200x but i still claimed it as it gave that extra 10 mins of play

Now forget the match bonuses the wednesday 25% has disappeared as well for me

As i noticed few players did get 100% match on 1st but i sadly didn't lol maybe cuz i played the cashback offer