When you thought it could not get worse....

[lotusch]

Hey guys,

Just to share as I have a run of shit luck for a few months now on any casino,any slot,any software.
I just cannot hit a damn thing.
Not to worry,I go along way in the gambling circuit to know how things work.

But sometimes you think it can't get worse but it can.

Started to play Avalon II fresh on a casino I recently signed up for.
It took me 963 spins to trigger the 1st feature which paid max x my stake of €1.20 as I reforged the sword after just 6 throws of the dice.
So it gave me back a small bit of my initial bets.

But then you think,ok nearly a 1000 spins,features should trigger a bit faster now.

NOPE

I am now officially over 1500 spins AFTER the initial 963 spins I had to do to trigger the bonus for the first time.

I mean,I generally enjoy my playtime,also when I lose but this is just beyond my imagination.
Nearly 2500!! spins and only the 1st feature triggered sofar.

I used to love MGS but lately any of their slots suck me dry as a lifeless mummy.

Anyone else had a terrible run like this on a slot?

I don't mind waiting and I do understand variance,but 2500 spins and 1 feature???????

That is too much if you ask me....

Might get them 5 times now in the next 50 spins,who knows LOL...

Netent,Novomatic,WMS,Playtech,RTG, nothing hits for me lately...

Ah well,I guess I am in one of those bad luck runs we all get from time to time!

 

[mimi26]

I am having a bad run too.......on MG cant hit anything

 

[Balthazar]

It took me 963 spins to trigger the 1st feature which paid max x my stake of €1.20 as I reforged the sword

That's by far my biggest issue with this slot. Capped bonus rounds and high variance slots just don't go well together.

 

[Dinahnana]

I too am having a bad run. Cant cashout for love of money anywhere. Raging Rhino has flattened me, The Creature From The Black Lagoon has drowned me, Thunderstruck II has sent me to Hel. Lastly Avalon II has been cruel to me. I documented my Avalon II in a previous thread where I had an awful run of about 3.5k spins. It has improved a little but not enough to get me ahead. I am having a dry spell.... Hopefully it will rain soon.

P.S. I have found Avalon II to be very streaky and have yet to have any significant win on it. I know big wins are possible because ChopleyIOM had a win of 675x or so on it at 32Red a couple of weeks ago.

 

[conconsmama]

Ive been having the worst run of my life on Microgaming. Every single game, every different casino. Bonus rounds are extremely rare and when I finally get one, it is garbage. I have never seen it this bad before. Had some great wins last year, but this year has been ridiculous! Hoping my luck changes soon, or i will be taking a long break from online gaming!

 

[cpdnd31]

OK this should make you feel a lot better --- just when you think it can't get any worse think of living in the USA and our options.

Feel better -

 

[miso]

OK this should make you feel a lot better --- just when you think it can't get any worse think of living in the USA and our options.

Feel better -

Well, I`d trade all my options for living in New Orleans

 

[miso]

Lotusch, I think you have a bigger budget than me, have you tried spreading the deposits across more casinos?
I mean, pass me the tin foil hat, but after all those years playing slots, I think one spin is random, but 1000 spins,
not so much. If you know what I mean

My point is, if you happen to play Avalon II when it`s cold, more often than not, it is not going to suddenly wake up.
Either hit feature or a good win within first 100 spins, or change game.

I gave up on chasing bonus rounds, and if nothing else, at least it saved me a lot of headaches (hello Gonzo).

 

[dunover]

It's odd how luck goes. I went from May 2013 until November 2013 and couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. Whichever software, whatever site. Zilch. Then December it changed, 1k on Videoslots and 2k across the Red Flush sites since then in profit. I'm not a big stake player, I only play 200-ish per month and when it's gone it's gone.
I do sympathise here, because I and no doubt others have been through this before. Then when you least expect it, things change. That's the only certain thing about luck - it WILL change.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Sorry to hear that mate, was on a bad run too, looking better now...
Either take a short break, or flip the switch!

You could also just try something else.. Vegasbum style those MG slots
Hope your luck kicks in big time anyhow!

 

[tinybettor]

Sorry for your bad run mate. I too can sympathize. Got a few good hits near the end of last year ('m sure some of you can remember the 3 big playboy hits in a short time) but from then on it was all downhill. Haven't been able to hit a damn thing. Signed up to a dozen casinos, multiple welcome bonuses, couldn't clear a thing, stuck with my favs and still the same thing. Netent, MG, nothings paying out for me. Sad to say all those winnings have vanished in the blink of an eye and a whole lot more. Just hope it won't take till Christmas time again til the slots decide to be more kind when I'm making multiple deposits week after week especially when they're not small tenners as well.

I suggest taking a break or easing up on the deposits if you haven't done so already. Before my big hits last year, I was also on a 6 month drought which prompted me to take a short break as things were just getting ridiculous. After that break I went on an incredible run where every slot was practically on fire, almost as if the slot was being forced to payout. Now its the absolute opposite every slot taking hundreds of spins for a bonus round paying nil, empty spin after spin in the base game and every deposit lasting 10 minutes on a $150 deposit or so at <$1 spin.

I'm sure the slots will payout in due time, just hope the RNG can select us as the ones to reap the big ones.

 

[mrmark21]

Hmmm. Guess my suspicions about MG have been confirmed. I'm not going to turn this post into an MG rant because I've done enough of that lately. I feel for you (been there for a whole year) but I'm just happy to know that I'm not the only one whose been the victim of such awful returns on those slots.

Have you tried Play N Go? I've been playing allot of them lately. They don't have a huge games portfolio but the slots they do have are quite good. They are also capable of some big hits and they don't go cold as soon as you up your bet. I won $500 off a $3 bet last night on Dragon Ship. How about Video Slots? They have a huge slots selection. Give them a shot, move around a little. I'd play there more often but they don't have deposit match bonuses.

Or you could visit your local. I visit my local two-three times a week as it's just around the corner but thanks to some progressive jackpots I'm doing rather well (considering the slots are set to 89-94%). Maybe you would have some luck there.

Hope your next spin is a winner

 

[Brockie]

Hope your luck changes, you might have reached the bottom of the curve of luck and the only way is up for the next few months!

That's a pretty poor run even for Avalon2, I have played this very often as I have found it to be very consistent for me, (maybe i got your share of RTP!)

Played with a £100 deposit and £75 bonus on Monday (32red) all spins at £1.20 and cashed out £600, it's not the features that keep you in the game for this but the base game wins of 100x stake or more do happen often, if these are not showing up I get off.

 

[spintee]

Its real bad recently, Since beginning of this year, Only thing I had was 90 from 10 deposit on a new site, That would not of been took out but had to test site, Well you guessed it that was put back in a few minutes,
MG is getting bad and is unbelievable bad play, I play 80-90% on the mg but Yesterday I took the 200% on ladbrooks, I wanted to wait a bit has heard its not up to scratch, Well other day I was on live chat for 1 & half hrs, Than on phone for about 1 hr & got no where, All I was trying to find out is why I could not see the bonus any where, Well another 24hrs later and 2 emails I finally got the answer, You had to deposit for the bonus to come up in account to accept, You would of thought that live help or phone could of knew that,
Well worst experience ever, So much lag on machines, ages to count up wins even for a few pence, having to resign up all the time, Rubbish cs & long wait than they have not a clue, over 500 spins on little Britain and not 1 bonus or free spin round, on the 5th reel it kept jumping either 1 of them out,
Ive played 8 different casinos this week and all been dry, best win was around 80x bet on thunderstruck, But than eat it all back and more fresh deposits, I do not care what any 1 sais but mg machines have not played right for months, well the machines I play anyway, Only last night I was thinking there's so many sites out now and so many players I was thinking have they honestly turned them down some how?
What ever has gone wrong there seems to be a dry spell recently for a lot of players, All I can say is hold tight and hopefully
something will change and see some hits coming in
big wins await - happy spinning

 

[john39]

OK this should make you feel a lot better --- just when you think it can't get any worse think of living in the USA and our options.

Feel better -

Thats why I am glad we have brick and mortar casinos

 

[hausse222]

Had a bad run the last two months, too. But today i won something back because i made two mistakes: The second mistake was a misreading of a mail i got from superlenny that announced 5 freespins at gonzo.
By mistake i did not open superlenny but leovegas. And there i found a freespins win i must have had there 2 months ago with 3,- stake, but then not realized or forgot it. So suddenly i had 125,- in my account from the freefalls.
Now i played first gonzo and then piggy riches where i got a big hit in base game (X400). So i came with nothing and went with 500,-

 

[mcgameboy]

I'm having a bad run too lotusch. And my source of fury is also with Avalon II.

On Tuesday night I had my worst Avalon II session so far by some distance. Started with £209. Quickly hit the first 3 features within 180 spins and was looking good at £268 after the third feature had ended. Within 5 spins, I hit 2 grails on the first 3 reels then missed the 3rd grail on the 5th reel by 1 spot. Was feeling pretty confident that this session was going to be a good one. Little did I know that the near miss of the 3 grails was the trigger of the downswing. Less than 35 spins later my balance had dropped by 20 quid.

Over 1000 spins later, no further features had come my way. And I was busto....all on 60p bets. By the time I was down to £20, I just wanted to be killed off quickly/mercilessly.

I almost feel guilty for thinking my session was brutal. What you have described in your OP would have had me considering self-excluding from every MG casino for 6 months.

One thing is for sure....IF I ever play Avalon II again, I am dropping to 30p bets. That was the worst session I've had on any slot in my life. And I won't let it happen again. It's gonna be "hit feature within 25 spins and run or quit" tactics on that slot from now on. I haven't seen any big wins on the base game and I've played over 25,000 spins on it. My best win is a 139x bet.

But that Avalon II session was just the cherry on the top of a cake of MG slots runbad that's been going on for damn near 5 weeks. Ever since I cashed out of Virtual City (£100 dep, £400 cashout after a killer IR session when I hit SEVEN natural 5OAKs of Sarah plus wilds - which included a very tasty 290x bet hit in the base game), it has been just totally gross. Almost every slot I have touched has been shit. Until tonight....

I finally hit some luck tonight on the TDKR and the new Frozen Dawn slot. Went from under £6 to over £170 thanks to a great free spin round on each.

I can see where Frozen Dawn can eat a bankroll, but for me, it's easily the best of the recent MG releases (I haven't played High Society yet).

Anyhow, I'm heading into tl,dr mode here. All I can say is....I hope your luck turns lotusch. Same goes for anyone else on a bad run. I'm feeling your collective pain.

 

[mrmark21]

I noticed members are talking about not winning on Avalon 2. People Avalon 2 is a high variance monster. I'm not surprised your losing. Although IMO over 1000 spins to get a feature is a bit ridiculous. Most features on MG don't return much either so I don't see how that many spins can be justified. But since this is a very high variance slot there may be a few very big winners and not much of anything else.

I'd suggest you do the opposite and play low-medium variance slots although IMO those haven't been returning much either. But at least they give out regular features. So you should get some play time out of them. Trust me when MG slots go into take mode then they can take and take and take some more don't continue depositing because they won't return anything. Further deposits can hardly be justified. Your just adding to your losses. Take a break instead, let it be heard that your not happy with the payout, without players these online casinos would cease to exist. The best thing you can do is self exclude for a few months. Give them another chance in a few months. I've opted for a longer self exclusion period.

I'm not the kind of player that will continue plowing my money through the slots when I can't even hit a feature and/or anything resembling a decent return is nonexistent. I mean sheesh it's almost like they think your going to happily continue to bleed out money. I was never a big spender on MG slots, I spend more at the pub chasing the progressive jackpots, but if Mirogaming want more of MY money then THEY should be willing to give me a little back. Otherwise what am I playing for - fun? Well when the excitement and decent returns have jumped ship the fun can turn into more of a tedious chore.

I think it's a shame because the graphics on MG slots are always superb. TS2/IR/TFROL are all perfect examples of the cutting edge graphics they are utilizing on their slots. Pair this with the innovative ideas and you have a combination for success. They are just leaving out one crucial element - The win factor. I'm looking forward to seeing their Terminator slot in action. Their Live Casino is probably the best that I've seen when it comes to the interactive live gaming aspect.

I originally started playing MG slots for entertainment purposes but I was losing so much that I started playing to win. I won $200 off a $10 deposit on Netent last night which I played back hoping for a bigger win. That's okay I feel like I can win on Netent maybe I'll get that big win on my next deposit. But with MG well I wouldn't expect to win much of anything. I must admit that I did grow a bit tired of Microgaming's compensated slots towards the end. Anyway I just think that I've learnt a little something over this last year and thought it might be of some help


P.s. TBH I'm a little bit happier to see I'm not the only one whose copped a beating on MG (I hope that doesn't sound bad).

 

[Azzurri]

You can add me to the list of bad luck bears.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again, MG slots have changed. MG you've changed man!

Somethings not quite right in MG land IMO. No conspiracy theories, just an experienced observation from one with many hours experience with MG slots.

Maybe a temporary boycott will fix it .

 

[lotusch]

Just to give you heads up guys,went back for another session last night,deposited €100.00 and continued my €1.20 bet spins.
I think I finished the whole trail within 500 spins as features kept triggering.
Won €108.10 on the choose your extra wild,€192.00 on the pick your helmet bonus which went up to x8 and I hit the highest value helmet,€14.00 or so on the trailing wilds (never seem to be nice anyway),€92.00 on the black knight which I finished off with a critical strike and €76.40 on the wheel bonus.
Also hit the knight symbol 5 oak twice in regular spins so on the end I walked away with just over €550.00 and decided not to play any other slots and cashout the money which was already in my Skrill this morning.

Normally I would play on playing different slots but to get the feeling of a payout again and hopefully get the curve back up I cashed the winnings.

 

[mrmark21]

Just to give you heads up guys,went back for another session last night,deposited €100.00 and continued my €1.20 bet spins.
I think I finished the whole trail within 500 spins as features kept triggering.
Won €108.10 on the choose your extra wild,€192.00 on the pick your helmet bonus which went up to x8 and I hit the highest value helmet,€14.00 or so on the trailing wilds (never seem to be nice anyway),€92.00 on the black knight which I finished off with a critical strike and €76.40 on the wheel bonus.
Also hit the knight symbol 5 oak twice in regular spins so on the end I walked away with just over €550.00 and decided not to play any other slots and cashout the money which was already in my Skrill this morning.

Normally I would play on playing different slots but to get the feeling of a payout again and hopefully get the curve back up I cashed the winnings.

Awesome. When you hit $500 it's time to cash-out Did you consider playing on and maybe upping your stake?

 

[lotusch]

Awesome. When you hit $500 it's time to cash-out Did you consider playing on and maybe upping your stake?

Hehehe yes I did for a second but that is where it always seems to go wrong and I would lose my winnings again.
If I would have cashed out all the times I was actually in profit on a casino I would have made much more withdrawals in my carreer lol.
And I really have to make myself withdraw sometimes,just because I love playing slots but sometimes you have to just take the cash and leave.
Otherwise it will be all back into the casino again.

Weird,for example sometimes I only need to deposit €25.00,get my balance up to €150.00 and should cash in really.
But because it was a small deposit and a small profit I always keep on playing en eventually lose the money again.

Maybe cash out smaller profits more often.

 

[rshkrn]

Normally I would play on playing different slots but to get the feeling of a payout again and hopefully get the curve back up I cashed the winnings.

That's just great... .....it could be the start to the run good you're waiting for, GL

 

[mcgameboy]

Hehehe yes I did for a second but that is where it always seems to go wrong and I would lose my winnings again.
If I would have cashed out all the times I was actually in profit on a casino I would have made much more withdrawals in my carreer lol.
And I really have to make myself withdraw sometimes,just because I love playing slots but sometimes you have to just take the cash and leave.
Otherwise it will be all back into the casino again.

Weird,for example sometimes I only need to deposit €25.00,get my balance up to €150.00 and should cash in really.
But because it was a small deposit and a small profit I always keep on playing en eventually lose the money again.

Maybe cash out smaller profits more often.

This is my biggest achilles heel too mate. Too often I do get myself into a position to "close the deal", only to then treat the withdraw button like it is some needle in a haystack. And then inevitably, lose a chunk or all of my profits.

I do wish I had ChopleyIOM's "clinical discipline" when it comes to cashing out, I know if I had even a quarter of Chopper's discipline in that respect, my overall losses on slots would likely be at least halved. This is why I like watching Chopper's vids.....he goes in with a set plan and sticks to it (OK he made an exception in last week's vid but he still made a prudent and, more importantly, a profitable decision). He didn't get greedy and was happy to settle for a bag of acorns instead of the whole oak tree. And most important of all, his bankroll lives to play another day. I'd say there is a valuable lesson in that kind of approach to slotting.