What's your longest dry spell playing a slot without hitting a feature?

AudiManinBoro

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7-10 spins is in my opinion no where near long enough to determine if a slot is likley to pay out or even to make a lucky hit as such. Some of my biggest wins has been on slots that have initially played bad but suddenly `changed` half way through.
 

Fledor

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Or maybe you play not long enough at one casino? ;)

Nah this surely cant be any factor to payouts? I have mostly played video poker and only little slots in William Hill (cryptologic) while I have played slots only at ladbrokes (microgaming).
 

mikepipe

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Hi

Just wanting to ask is this thread joke or what? ;) I have hit features more times I can count in 2 days. I have probably done something like 200 spins total. Played 4 or 5 different slots in 2 casinos.

I have also read from net/forums about strategies etc. Anyone have anything to add?
1. If you loose 60% of your roll then quit.
2. If you dont get anything in 7-10 spins then exit that slot.
3. Have some betting strategy (still trying to figure out best one)

Still thinking maybe I should change 2. to "anything major".

Or it could be that I have been lucky? :)


Yes. I leave a slot, when it didnt fire after 5-max 10 spins. But this nothing, i would call strategy- its feeling. And it gives me a better feeling to come to a slot and start freespins at once.
And sometimes i even ave the idea that i can feel if the slot is cold.
ok- nonsense - - but - if you sit in front of your screen you have to think anything, dont you?
 

AudiManinBoro

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Lol Mikepipe, very true my friend, it just goes to show that we all have our own little ideas, methods and schemes for outwitting the slots. Just a pity none of them work lol
 

vinylweatherman

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New Drought Forecast

Looks like a new drought has begun. I have not had ONE SINGLE bonus round in nearly 2000 spins spread over several games & two casinos. I also played VP and had 250 consecutive deals with nothing higher than 2 pair as a starting hand, yet a short session of 3 card poker had the DEALER show TWO 3 of a kind within 10 hands (which I could not get once in 250 with FIVE cards on the VP).

Fixed?

Damn right it is:D
 

cheekymonkey

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Looks like a new drought has begun. I have not had ONE SINGLE bonus round in nearly 2000 spins spread over several games & two casinos. I also played VP and had 250 consecutive deals with nothing higher than 2 pair as a starting hand, yet a short session of 3 card poker had the DEALER show TWO 3 of a kind within 10 hands (which I could not get once in 250 with FIVE cards on the VP).

Fixed?

Damn right it is:D

Are you trying to say that online casinos are fixed VWM? :eek2:

How very dare you!
 

oldtrvlagt

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2000 spins??? I would shoot myself and my computer!!!:gunmen:
 

Zoozie

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I have not had ONE SINGLE bonus round in nearly 2000 spins spread over several games & two casinos.

I calculated the odds for not hitting the feature in a given number of spins here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/scattered-odds.16965/

But I only showed the graph for <1000 spins, since the probability is so low already. But from the data I attached I find that not hitting in 2000 spins (and assuming the Thunderstruck scatter probability) then the probability for this to happen is:

p=0.0000007701 which is about 1 to 1.3M

This is rare indeed, almost twice as rare as hitting a PAT RF.
And then the average win from the Thunderstruck-feature is only 35.3*bet size.

Zoozie
 

lojo

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I think it was IGT I archived this from:
The jackpot should theoretically hit every 15,503,906 reel spins
On pretty much the same kind of slot as thunderstruck.

Keep up the 'bad' luck ten times over and you're in for a whopper VWM:D

But we all know it doesn't work like that; the first spin is as good as the last on a truly random machine. A little superstition goes a long ways sometimes. Even when the superstition is math.

Is there a simple formula I could understand that relates probablility to possibility, Zoozie? I promise i won't bug you again for a while if I can wrap my head around it.

Vinyl, all you gots to do is change up your game. Take some discretionary fodder and bet 3,5,7,9,11 lines at random and load them all heavily. The kicker is scatters that way. Sure it will piss ya if you get free spins if you only bet 3 lines, and you'll have to teach yourself not to see the lines you didn't bet. But if the games are fair, you'll like yourself for kicking in this deviation now and then :)
 

vinylweatherman

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I think it was IGT I archived this from:
On pretty much the same kind of slot as thunderstruck.

Keep up the 'bad' luck ten times over and you're in for a whopper VWM:D

But we all know it doesn't work like that; the first spin is as good as the last on a truly random machine. A little superstition goes a long ways sometimes. Even when the superstition is math.

Is there a simple formula I could understand that relates probablility to possibility, Zoozie? I promise i won't bug you again for a while if I can wrap my head around it.

Vinyl, all you gots to do is change up your game. Take some discretionary fodder and bet 3,5,7,9,11 lines at random and load them all heavily. The kicker is scatters that way. Sure it will piss ya if you get free spins if you only bet 3 lines, and you'll have to teach yourself not to see the lines you didn't bet. But if the games are fair, you'll like yourself for kicking in this deviation now and then :)

I did kick in a few deviations, but it seems that everthing was dead yesterday. I was at least offered a 400 for 400 bonus by RiverBelle (what ARE they playing at this month - I have had nearly 2K of offers!), and I had a more reasonable session with this.

On the other hand, Grand Prive have totally lost interest, and their "eCogra approved" promotion is going from crisis to near disaster, and if the winner is playing in Euro or Pounds they will see what I mean! I have stopped playing anyway as I have noticed the scores have not updated in 3 days, and the target required by tonight will likely be completely wrong. eCogra should butt out of approving promotions that don't live up to expectations and concentrate on the core business of keeping the outlandish management decisions in check.
 

Rettahs

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I think I am just sticking to low rolling for awhile since it seems that anytime I go over $1.00 a spin I never see the features no matter how high my bankroll is these days and it hurts less to wait at 50 to 90 cents a spin lol. Loaded handed me a 600+ dry feature $2 session then I lowered to 50 cents and hit the free spins left and right :). I know, people will say that happens and I could have held out and it would have hit at $2.00 but then again it may not have, who knows. All in all it was still fun but frustrating as well.
 

AudiManinBoro

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I first mentioned Mg casinos acying `unfairly` weeks ago and was poopooed as having a run of bad luck. I agree with VWM, ive been on this bad luck run now for well over a month. Ive had bad luck runs before but they have never lasted so long. I have no idea what MG is playing at but for some reason they seem to be harvesting money in as fast as they can get it. Ill say one thing and i dont care what any of you think lol When Mg casinos dont want to pay out, they wont and they are `appropriatly set` to ensure that they dont!
 

Mike031

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350 spins on Loaded on Grand Bay Casino, without any bonus round and certainly not any big win!

200.- away!

This Casino sucks really, btw. their support is incompetent, because they couldn't tell me, whether i can withdraw with moneybookers, after i asked them 5 times per email!

There comes always 1 standard sentece, like on ebay!

The 1st answer was only "for US Player is only regular payment available!"

I'm not a US Player, but they should see that, not only on my emailadress, because also on my datas, which they should see on my account details!

"Deinstall"
 

cheekymonkey

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350 spins on Loaded on Grand Bay Casino, without any bonus round and certainly not any big win!

That's E A S I L Y done on Loaded Mike!!! :D

Loaded can play as tight as Isis, Supe It Up, Dolphin Tale etc.

I've been spinning that slot for years now, trust me - lol.
 

Mike031

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I've been spinning that slot for years now, trust me - lol.
I thought, that this slot is not so old?

Okay i began to play only in August 2006, but i thought that Loaded was there new?

I think, that i should go back to "Halloweenies" or "Cashanova" because there you will get very rarly no bonus round within 100 spins! ;)
 

Pinababy69

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I calculated the odds for not hitting the feature in a given number of spins here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/scattered-odds.16965/

But I only showed the graph for <1000 spins, since the probability is so low already. But from the data I attached I find that not hitting in 2000 spins (and assuming the Thunderstruck scatter probability) then the probability for this to happen is:

p=0.0000007701 which is about 1 to 1.3M

This is rare indeed, almost twice as rare as hitting a PAT RF.
And then the average win from the Thunderstruck-feature is only 35.3*bet size.

Zoozie

But did you take into account that VWM's 2000 spins was spread over several games. He didn't take 2000 spins on one game with no bonus feature. So that could be 400 or 500 spins on each of four or five games. And that's not that unusual.

My luck is absolutely horrendous of late as well.....either have to take an extended break until it turns, or grin and bear it.
 

Zoozie

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But did you take into account that VWM's 2000 spins was spread over several games. He didn't take 2000 spins on one game with no bonus feature. So that could be 400 or 500 spins on each of four or five games. And that's not that unusual.

Good question. But it does not matter. I did assume the 1/143 scatter probability from Thunderstruck though which is a good estimate for most of the
freespin slots. (The good ones at least...)

As long as he did 2000 spins in a row without getting the feature, it does not matter how he did it.
 

vinylweatherman

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Good question. But it does not matter. I did assume the 1/143 scatter probability from Thunderstruck though which is a good estimate for most of the
freespin slots. (The good ones at least...)

As long as he did 2000 spins in a row without getting the feature, it does not matter how he did it.

Today I played the Munchkin tournament (Casino Action). At Nostalgia, I played consistently at 0.30 per spin, and wagered over 3000 and still ended up by 50 from a 100 deposit. The other two I bet at different amounts after busting out with 0.30 spins. I lost 200 at one, and broke even at the other.

My Nostalgia run seems significant in that it would have taken 10,000 spins to reach 3000 of wagering, but these 10,000 spins were at a 100%+ payout. It seems the slots can get stuck in a rut either way. If I was spinning at 30 rather than 0.30, I would have......

....

....





Lost me shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
 

AudiManinBoro

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spinning at 30 rather 0.30 is llike major :eek: lol I play on same level as you do VMW and agree that you can have hundreds and hudnreds of spins without even hitting diddly squat. At a 30 quid bet level jeeeeeez lol
 

vinylweatherman

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spinning at 30 rather 0.30 is llike major :eek: lol I play on same level as you do VMW and agree that you can have hundreds and hudnreds of spins without even hitting diddly squat. At a 30 quid bet level jeeeeeez lol

I tend to bet really low in these Casino Action tournaments because there is a side prize for getting a natural 5 in a line of the second highest payer. This is homework books on Munchkins, and Silver Hammers on Thunderstruck. Although "Thor's cock" pays the same as hammers, it does not count.
Indeed, I netted this prize with my 10,000 spins at Nostalgia, but then lost grip of reality and bet 11.25 a spin at Music Hall, finally netting a bonus round after no less than 5 coin and line bet changes, it yielded just under 700.

My highest EVER slot bet was on Munchkins, a heady 52 or so, and I got the bonus round too, but it was not a great deal given the size of bet. This was after a spectacularly good streak the previous week.

I tried 75 a spin in FUN MODE, and once got as little as 430, I would have been mightily p****d had I been rewarded thus after risking this in real mode.
 
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