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Whats up with these cards?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by amatrine, Dec 27, 2006.

    Dec 27, 2006
  1. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    I was playing club usa. I was playing dueces wild. I took two photos.

    It seems wierd to me that EVERY time I have a duece in the deck, or am one or two cards shy a wild, or regular royal, it keeps pulling another card under the deck. Look at these photos, look close, I believe this one is a king.
    It did this EVERY time I had a hand close to something. This happened the other day too. This time I took pictures.
     
  2. Dec 27, 2006
  3. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    I just emailed them and closed my account. I have NEVER seen such garbage on any blackjack games as I have on their new and "improved" upgraded blackjack games.

    I wrote and told THEM to play their own games to see what the players are seeing with all the "upgrades" they have done and then tell us something isn't VERY, VERY wrong with them. As most know, I supplement my slots games with blackjack intermittently and it keeps me playing for a nice spell at any given casino, which is what I look forward to.

    Win or lose, it's the "time" of entertainment I look for to play with slots and blackjack helps me in this. Well, I have won not ONE hand of blackjack in 10 sessions. YES, TEN sessions. The dealer would get 20-21, or blackjack each and every time. Not once did they bust, ever. Wiped me out every time.

    This casino will definitely be on my stay away list for a very long time until they come to their senses and check out the games they claim are new and improved when in realty, they are downright AWFUL!!!! I think they forgot to have the payout set at all and its at 0%!
     
  4. Dec 27, 2006
  5. EasyRhino

    EasyRhino Dormant account

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    I'm not sure what's happening with the VP screenshots, it there any chance it's just weirdness in the drawing animation as it's re-shifting the cards?

    I've played a lot of hands of blackjack at RTGs. I had two stretches at two different shops where I was just getting pummeled on individual streaks (the same deal with the dealer drawing to 21 repeated, etc.).

    And just when I began to get a whiff of suspicion, I hit a pretty ridiculous winning streak when trying to complete a WR, where, over several hundred hands, I was just plain winning way more than my fair share.

    Losing ten hands in a row is not likely, but if you play enough hands, you're going to bump into times when it happens. That's how negative progression betters, (like martingalers) get ruined.
     
  6. Dec 27, 2006
  7. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

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    Location:
    North Carolina
    Maybe it had something to do with the fact that you don't play perfect strategy when you're playing BJ?

    gold-series-perfect-play-black-jack-sux.html

    Nope, can't be ... the game's gotta be rigged.
     
  8. Dec 27, 2006
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    And why is the thread being derailed because of BJ?
    [/derail]
     
  10. Dec 27, 2006
  11. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    No, because the extra cards that show most of the time are not a card that
    I ever had a choice to pick.

    Ama
     
  12. Dec 27, 2006
  13. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    Did not realize I shouldn't have posted anything about blackjack when it was at this same casino amatrine was speaking about. Sorry if this bothered you. I thought it relevant since it was a version of a card game and the casino was the same.


    I had NO CHANCE to play anything since the dealer beat me every time. Right or wrong how do you play perfectly against blackjacks,20's and 21's...if you tell me the secret...we both will get rich! Geezes...

    Who said anything about it being "rigged" Good grief, you must be in one helluva losing streak to say this when it wasn't implied anywhere except in YOUR THOUGHTS.. My beef was with the new improved "upgrade" which has actually been lousy for the game for not even a professional can beat a 20-21 or, are you saying that you can beat blackjack or a 21 with playing PERFECT STRATEGY (which is a joke)??. Once again, give us your secret and we all can get rich together.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2006
  14. Dec 27, 2006
  15. Wildfire7

    Wildfire7 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Engineering
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    UK
    Club USA is an RTG casino isnt it?

    I personally don't play at any RTG's, but have read a few times on this forum about how the operators can adjust the payouts.

    The BJ and VP misnomers seem a bit obvious if this particular casino is rigging it's software.

    If in doubt, avoid like the plague and stick to the big guns at MG's and Crypto's, where at least you can play without feeling paranoid! :lolup:

    Wildfire7
     
  16. Dec 28, 2006
  17. johnwater

    johnwater Banned User

    Location:
    UK
    Hi

    I wasn't going to post on this thread until I saw wildfires comments and thought I would delve into other software provider game complaints, not that I am particularly defending RTG but I think all providers should be judged equally and not be lauded without good reason.

    I did a quick search on google for microgaming software complaints and cryptologic and frankly i wasn't so impressed with either.

    This is what i found just in this forum on microgaming:
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...crogaming-fortune-room-blackjack-problem.html
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...bonus-issues/12810-microgaming-viper-bug.html

    Cryptologic has a whole site devoted to them at You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Not sure how true it is but it looks updated and a good read.

    At the end of the day either you believe it is tested and fair, which I personally believe all the main casino software providers are, or just don't bother playing if it causes so much dissatisfaction. Each casino with the main software providers has its merits and bad points. As long as you play at a casino that pays if you win then great. If you lose its probably as typical and normal as losing at a land based casino and I doubt many, if any, have ever complained at a land based casino....and I have seen slot machines with dodgy reels in land based casinos too, the hands are right its just the graphics that arent. As for Blackjack, I can't win for toffee in a land based.

    Just my view on the matter.

    John
     
  18. Dec 28, 2006
  19. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    Well I wont be playing there anymore, no explanation given or anything.

    I have switched to bodog, forgot about that casino.

    The cards arnt wacky there. When I see cards being pulled up everytime I get a hand that has a possible payout, my alarm bells have been rung.It does not do it when you say you have a 4,7,2,9,3......but when you have 2 cards the same suit as a royal, or when you draw two wilds, etc.. it always does it.
    Just for the hell of it Im gonna check to see if its the same in play mode, brb

    Ama
     
  20. Dec 28, 2006
  21. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    Nope, works normal in play mode.

    Anothe anomly I had in real mode, I would hit deal, it would lag out, then make me hit deal again. That also happened a few times.

    Ama
     
  22. Dec 28, 2006
  23. johnwater

    johnwater Banned User

    Location:
    UK
    Hi Ama

    Did you write to them to ask for an explanation and you didnt get a response?

    What I can't understand is how Bodog is different, just doesnt make any sense to me.

    John
     
  24. Dec 28, 2006
  25. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    All I know is this thing with the cards is only happening at club usa and it is since they did thier video poker upgrade. Bodog has no upgrade and they are working fine.

    Ama
     
  26. Dec 28, 2006
  27. johnwater

    johnwater Banned User

    Location:
    UK
    Ahh ok I understand now.
    Did you contact the casino with the screenshots and game id or time so they can find out whats wrong and get it fixed because in my experience they are really helpful and go the extra mile to get things sorted?
    I am sure they are as frustrated with this as you are if they know about it and the same will probably happen with Bodog if RTG arent informed.

    John
     
  28. Dec 28, 2006
  29. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    I didnt see an email address on the website, just a form you can submit so I could not send photos. I filled it out and point it to this thread, and told them they need to contact RTG. Being in the USA I guess I can not contact them myself.

    Ama
     
  30. Dec 28, 2006
  31. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    Club world said they forwarded the email to RTG.

    Ama
     

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