What's the story at Jackpot Capital?

daveboz

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man talk about tight! That's what I like about CWG where gambling is a two way street. If you can walk away sometimes and dont play it away
 

chuchu59

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Frankly I may have lost on every deposit at Grande Vegas but I had a couple of cashouts at Lucky Club. As for JC itself sometimes I win, somettimes I lose. I cant see much difference compared with other rtgs. One thing is tight though. Their nd bonuses seem to have vanished over the past month. Previously, if you had deposited you get at least 10 or 20 bucks. Now its a fat 0.
 

azzy

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Do you win from RTG casinos?

When i made first deposit to lucky club I won but then "nothing"... Same thing I have heard also from other players that they have only few cashouts from RTG casinos but mostly they have lost all money.

If compare to other casinos I have made much more cashouts from any other casinos rival, playtech, netenet, microgaming...
 

chuchu59

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One very intesting thing at these rtg casinos. I play the same games nearly every time and my personal opinion is that they have lowered the rtp by maintaining the large wins but reducing the number of smaller wins. Say diamond dozen, 2 blue diamond scatters pay 2x your bet and there are 2 of them in each of the 2 reels. However, if you get one in the first reel you rarely get the second one although in theory you should get them pretty often given that there are 2 of them in the second reel. Anyone who doubts this may test them at min bets themslves. Then there is Baccarat. I have played this game at half a dozen rtgs. I always bet on banker but at all of them I will encounter player streaks of 5-6 hands in a row after my first 10 bets. Coincidence? Methinks not especially if this occurs at all rtgs I play at.
 

daveboz

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One very intesting thing at these rtg casinos. I play the same games nearly every time and my personal opinion is that they have lowered the rtp by maintaining the large wins but reducing the number of smaller wins. Say diamond dozen, 2 blue diamond scatters pay 2x your bet and there are 2 of them in each of the 2 reels. However, if you get one in the first reel you rarely get the second one although in theory you should get them pretty often given that there are 2 of them in the second reel. Anyone who doubts this may test them at min bets themslves. Then there is Baccarat. I have played this game at half a dozen rtgs. I always bet on banker but at all of them I will encounter player streaks of 5-6 hands in a row after my first 10 bets. Coincidence? Methinks not especially if this occurs at all rtgs I play at.



I notice lately the features are paying out less as well. There's nothing more frustrating then finally hitting one, receiving 15 free spins, and then winning 13 dollars from a $2.50 average per spin.
 

daveboz

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One very intesting thing at these rtg casinos. I play the same games nearly every time and my personal opinion is that they have lowered the rtp by maintaining the large wins but reducing the number of smaller wins. Say diamond dozen, 2 blue diamond scatters pay 2x your bet and there are 2 of them in each of the 2 reels. However, if you get one in the first reel you rarely get the second one although in theory you should get them pretty often given that there are 2 of them in the second reel. Anyone who doubts this may test them at min bets themslves. Then there is Baccarat. I have played this game at half a dozen rtgs. I always bet on banker but at all of them I will encounter player streaks of 5-6 hands in a row after my first 10 bets. Coincidence? Methinks not especially if this occurs at all rtgs I play at.


When they tighten them its the first and third reel. I was playing mice dice yesterday and had 4 mouse dealer missing the third reel, paid 7 bucks, that sucked.

I can attest that these RTG reels can be manipulated anytime. Ever notice when you hit a threshold of say $100, $300 , $5 that you get a nice win? Can't just be coincidence.

I experienced the ultimate free play mode three weeks ago at an accredited RTG casino and what a rush it was. Decided to deposit and take a bonus for slots only $300 plus bonus. I s4it you not, I turned that $300 into over $7k playing over a 24 period. Hitting everything, I mean everything, features on every slot within 50 spins, multiple retriggers. Even when I ramped up the betting to $6.25 $12.50, $25, even $50 I was winning, it was nuts.

Playing baskutbull, hit 4 balls plus made all four shots ended up with 50 free spins lol. Big hits on Twister, Mr. Money, T Rex, I even played Enchanted Garden!

Didn't realize until later the max cashout was $2k. It was totally rigged in my favor but fun. It was so obvious..
 

daveboz

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One very intesting thing at these rtg casinos. I play the same games nearly every time and my personal opinion is that they have lowered the rtp by maintaining the large wins but reducing the number of smaller wins. Say diamond dozen, 2 blue diamond scatters pay 2x your bet and there are 2 of them in each of the 2 reels. However, if you get one in the first reel you rarely get the second one although in theory you should get them pretty often given that there are 2 of them in the second reel. Anyone who doubts this may test them at min bets themslves. Then there is Baccarat. I have played this game at half a dozen rtgs. I always bet on banker but at all of them I will encounter player streaks of 5-6 hands in a row after my first 10 bets. Coincidence? Methinks not especially if this occurs at all rtgs I play at.


In exchange for the lower payouts on features you will notice bigger wins on regular spins to compensate somewhat imo.

So i guess one will have to change their way of thinking when playing. Instead of waiting for a good feature to hit to recover, pay attention to each spin. The turbo guys like myself will have to adjust playing style. Stick by your computer..
 

Nifty29

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In exchange for the lower payouts on features you will notice bigger wins on regular spins to compensate somewhat imo.

So i guess one will have to change their way of thinking when playing. Instead of waiting for a good feature to hit to recover, pay attention to each spin. The turbo guys like myself will have to adjust playing style. Stick by your computer..

Sorry Dave, but you do not have the first clue.

You can "watch" the spins until your eyes bleed, but it won't make a shred of difference. The spins are random so if there is any "pattern" then it is completely "in your mind".

If casinos thought slots could be beaten by "watching" them they wouldn't offer them.....but hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good....well I was going to say conspiracy theory, but it's far too ridiculous even for that.

The fact that you took a bonus on a $300 deposit with a $2k max cashout pretty much sums up where you're at. :rolleyes:
 

daveboz

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What do you mean? I have always been a VP player. Hadn't dabbled much in slots i mean we're talking $300. Read the terms later of course . You can justify your randomness claim all you want, but what i experienced was absolutely a guaranteed result in my favor. My account was earmarked to win non stop for a 24 hour period. Maybe your an affiliate? I am not dropping any casino names here. It was not jackpot capital..

Nifty if you went thru the same 24 hour period like i did you would be rolling your eyes too. i am not kidding.
 

weplant

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I have been playing a lot at JC and although Ihave not cashed out, I have gotten a lot of play time..I also noticed that the bonus rounds seem to be very weak in payouts...Also, I just received a 200.00 ND bonus with a max cashout of 5x's, pretty nice.
 

secret2

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At least JC's CS is good. :)

RTG is RTG. That's all I have to play with. SO the best CS wins my money in my book. :cool:

If you are going to play online in the USA, then I will play at an online casino that has polite, courteous and helpful, timely email responses (if that's all there is ) and LIVE chat and, of course, if it is accredited with timely payments.

So,I weigh up where I play.

JC has always treated me wonderfully even though I may not win.:thumbsup:

I have continuous letters with ND bonuses from JC.
 

ergopro

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Won a 3,5k random with a very small deposit...no bonus, all cashable at Jackpot Capital.
Also lost over 100 deposits to Lucky Red and managed to cashout small amounts twice.
It's all just down to luck...nothing else. Although I do like conspiracy theories :D
 

weplant

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I agree, it is all about luck..Thats why they call it gambling...But in my opinion JC has always been friendly and does send me bonuses, although I rarely take them..At least I can deposit there with my visa (USA player) with no hassels...
 

Nifty29

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What do you mean? I have always been a VP player. Hadn't dabbled much in slots i mean we're talking $300. Read the terms later of course . You can justify your randomness claim all you want, but what i experienced was absolutely a guaranteed result in my favor. My account was earmarked to win non stop for a 24 hour period. Maybe your an affiliate? I am not dropping any casino names here. It was not jackpot capital..

Nifty if you went thru the same 24 hour period like i did you would be rolling your eyes too. i am not kidding.

I can assure you that I've been through some absolutely horrible runs of losses......along with some amazing runs of good luck...interspersed with just average results.

The difference is, I call it "gambling" and you call it "rigged".

I would consider myself extremely daft if I was convinced I was being ripped off, and yet continued to play. It would mean that either I didn't really believe it, or that I had an uncontrollable gambling problem.

I was just like you once Dave. If you want to enjoy your gambling, get educated about how it all works. Nasty runs of luck can happen even in a 99.9% rtp game, so a few bad sessions at a particular casino means little in the overall scheme of things. The first lesson you should learn is to always read the terms before you play as that bonus you took was awful and deals like that will ensure you end up in the red long term.

As for being an affiliate, I'm afraid that old mare has been flogged well and truly to death.
 

vinylweatherman

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One very intesting thing at these rtg casinos. I play the same games nearly every time and my personal opinion is that they have lowered the rtp by maintaining the large wins but reducing the number of smaller wins. Say diamond dozen, 2 blue diamond scatters pay 2x your bet and there are 2 of them in each of the 2 reels. However, if you get one in the first reel you rarely get the second one although in theory you should get them pretty often given that there are 2 of them in the second reel. Anyone who doubts this may test them at min bets themslves. Then there is Baccarat. I have played this game at half a dozen rtgs. I always bet on banker but at all of them I will encounter player streaks of 5-6 hands in a row after my first 10 bets. Coincidence? Methinks not especially if this occurs at all rtgs I play at.

Sure about that;) :D

RTP is changed by switching to an alternate reel set, and my changing the probability tables used in "pick" bonus features.

Operators can switch between a number of presets supplied by RTG as part of the package. Officially, there are three per slot game, 91%, 95% and 97.5%. The default of 95% is what is supplied. The discussion centres on the nature of the procedures used to switch to these alternate reel sets. The official line is that this can only be done by RTG, and they have rules in place that limit operators to one change per 6 months, and they cannot keep messing around with RTP on a day to day basis. Allegations have been made that this is a lie, and that operators can make these changes from their onw console when they like, and as often as they like, with no control being exercised by RTG.

The RTP of table and Video Poker games is done by altering the payout tables, and thus it is easy for players to check which RTP setting a particular casino is using, as well as spotting when, and how often, they switch. Blackjack also has a setting that allows the number of decks in use to be set between 1 and 255. This CANNOT be easily spotted just by looking at the rules and pays.
 

secret2

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I can assure you that I've been through some absolutely horrible runs of losses......along with some amazing runs of good luck...interspersed with just average results.

The difference is, I call it "gambling" and you call it "rigged".

I would consider myself extremely daft if I was convinced I was being ripped off, and yet continued to play. It would mean that either I didn't really believe it, or that I had an uncontrollable gambling problem.

I was just like you once Dave. If you want to enjoy your gambling, get educated about how it all works. Nasty runs of luck can happen even in a 99.9% rtp game, so a few bad sessions at a particular casino means little in the overall scheme of things. The first lesson you should learn is to always read the terms before you play as that bonus you took was awful and deals like that will ensure you end up in the red long term.

As for being an affiliate, I'm afraid that old mare has been flogged well and truly to death.

Good grief! How much starch was sprayed on your undies?
 

4 of a kind

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Sure about that;) :D

RTP is changed by switching to an alternate reel set, and by changing the probability tables used in "pick" bonus features.






The RTP of table and Video Poker games is done by altering the payout tables, and thus it is easy for players to check which RTP setting a particular casino is using, as well as spotting when, and how often, they switch.

Are you positive the RTP on a slot machine could only be changed by changing the reel set? Couldn't the RTP be also adjusted by simply changing the probability tables for each stop, adding to the probabilities the RNG has to choose from?

Please trust that I'm not looking for debate here by asking you this next question. If what you say about how slot machines, and video poker functions operate online is fact; where is it you got this confirmed information? Did you actually read somewhere that these software functions you mentioned being used are a regulatory requirement to operate an online casino? If not where did that information come from?
 
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