What's the latest on EWalletXPress?

paul123

Dormant account
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I know I still have about $500 in EWalletXpress from about two years ago. I understood that the US government seized the money, just like they did with Neteller some years ago. Does anyone have any latest news on this or do you also have money locked up there? I just kind of put it out of my mind and rarely think about it. Anyway, I can't find much info on it. Anything new?

thanks
Paul123
 

Mousey

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I'm sorry, but I've not seen or heard so much as a peep about EWX since it's disappearance.

I will say, of all the ewallets that were gobbled up by the feds, or simply stole money.... the EWX 'case' is very weird. It just disappeared, and searching for info is like trying to hold a cloud... poof... it's as if it never existed.
 

paul123

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I'm sorry, but I've not seen or heard so much as a peep about EWX since it's disappearance.

I will say, of all the ewallets that were gobbled up by the feds, or simply stole money.... the EWX 'case' is very weird. It just disappeared, and searching for info is like trying to hold a cloud... poof... it's as if it never existed.


Ok, thank you. I can see I'm not alone, and probably haven't missed any news about it. Thanks.
 

LHofsdal

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NY
Yes, I too have almost 10 grand in there. There is nothing you can do, the website is not gone and the number that used to have a CSR that read the "script" "we are working with the DOJ..."blah blah blah is now disconnected also.

What is so weird about this whole thing, is when the DOJ took the poker sites, they DID payback the players. It took a few weeks/months but it was done. Nothing was done in any way to get the funds back to customers from EWX.

I have given up on that money, if I get it great, I would delighted, but I am not holding my breath for it.

LH
 

vinylweatherman

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Yes, I too have almost 10 grand in there. There is nothing you can do, the website is not gone and the number that used to have a CSR that read the "script" "we are working with the DOJ..."blah blah blah is now disconnected also.

What is so weird about this whole thing, is when the DOJ took the poker sites, they DID payback the players. It took a few weeks/months but it was done. Nothing was done in any way to get the funds back to customers from EWX.

I have given up on that money, if I get it great, I would delighted, but I am not holding my breath for it.

LH

Maybe time to get the media interested in investigating this weirdness, perhaps from an angle that suggests something corrupt went on within the US authorities involved that made this a unique case where getting the US citizens their money was NOT on the agenda, as seems to have been the case with the poker seizures.
 

Mousey

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Maybe time to get the media interested in investigating this weirdness, perhaps from an angle that suggests something corrupt went on within the US authorities involved that made this a unique case where getting the US citizens their money was NOT on the agenda, as seems to have been the case with the poker seizures.

did EWX have only USA clients? Or did they also accept players from outside the states? A player from outside the US who had money stolen by EWX or the Feds or whoever, should have some sort of recourse to track said monies down.

At any rate, the whole EWX thing was very strange. Even with NETeller, some/many? players got their money back (paid by NT not the Feds, they don't give money back LOL).
 

vinylweatherman

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did EWX have only USA clients? Or did they also accept players from outside the states? A player from outside the US who had money stolen by EWX or the Feds or whoever, should have some sort of recourse to track said monies down.

At any rate, the whole EWX thing was very strange. Even with NETeller, some/many? players got their money back (paid by NT not the Feds, they don't give money back LOL).

EWX had many Canadian players, and they DID accept players from outside of this area. I got an invite for EWX through a casino, but ignored it as I didn't need to take the risk of having my money mingled with that of US players. Canadian players have also lost money, so what jurisdiction did the Feds have for seizing money that had nothing to do with the US?

The Neteller monies were paid back once an agreement had been reached, and long before this it had been made pretty clear what had happened, and what needed to be done to reach agreement. With the more recent poker room cases, the Feds made it clear that their priority was to get US players their money back, and that they would veto any agreement that did not contain a promise to return, in full, the balances of US players.

EWX is strange because the Feds showed no interest in ensuring customers, even Canadians, got their money back. These is also the extreme secrecy, with even now no public record of there having been a seizure of EWX funds, let alone what needs to be done to reach agreement.

There is also the VERY strange goings on with the EWX site post seizure, with ex EWX customers being sent an email about there being $50 in their EWX accounts, only to find this was a banner offer for a free $50 at a casino. The poker seizures came after EWX, yet it was back to the Feds getting US players their money back being critical to any deal.

The money in EWX has simply vanished, the feds say they don't have it, EWX say it has been seized by the feds, Canadian customers' money has been seized despite there being no legal argument for doing so, and 2 years on there has been zero further progress or information.

Something VERY dodgy has taken place, and no-one wants to own up. Bryan has been shown the actual seizure order, and Nicholas Johnson knew exactly what had happened, but said he was not at liberty to say anything, even though he was simply a merchant, also facing getting screwed out of money. However, by stating this, he was saying EVERYTHING without actually landing himself in whatever excrement was waiting for him should he make himself too clear on the matter.

With no public record, there is no official legal route anyone can take in order to make a claim for their money as a player, which would NOT be a violation of UIGEA as it stands, and would only be a violation in those states that have specific laws making the act of gambling itself illegal.

It is the dodgy procedures, and possible hint of corruption, that might interest the media, rather than it being a straight forward case of a company going under and taking players' money with it.

The Quicktender case is almost as dodgy, with the Feds going on record to say that the money has not been seized, but "stolen" by the parent company from QT accounts in time for the seizure to produce nothing. With QT still very much in business, and holding the money, the Feds have been referring customers to QT in order to get it back. QT set up a procedure for US players to retrieve their money that was designed to be impossible for most to comply with, after which they simply pocketed what remained and wound up the QT subsidiary.
It's not that dissimilar to how Purple Lounge and Media Corp dodged responsibilty for paying back players' money, even though there was plenty of money available to do so.
 

skiny

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Dateline or other investigative news programs have email addresses. See if they're interested in poking around. They seem to like this sort of thing.

I had an EWX account. No money in it when it stopped working.
 

all4greed

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There was a person in another thread that posted this:

I have a lot of money in EWX just sitting there in limbo. I called the US Attorneys Office of Rod J. Rosenstein last week. I asked if someone there knew anything about about EWX funds being seized by the US government. I was transferred to someone knowledgeable and was told that yes the funds had been seized. I asked if the US citizens money would be returned and he said that he thought it would. He actually said "he said he would return the money" as if he was referring to the owner of EWX. He ended the phone call with "good luck". The man was professional and helpful.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/43057/

The phone number is 410-209-4800 (Maryland). I called back then, the person knew exactly what I was talking about and transferred me. Unfortunately, it went to a voice mail and I didn't want to leave a message. I didn't follow up due to my state frowning upon certain online activities and figured it probably wasn't worth any potential hassle.

Out $1,800 on this mess.
 

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