What the Absolute F*ck???

[paul7388]

one has been for centuries as far back when been taught only 1 thing which was male and females make a family etc. That is not the case and people who still can not understand this needs to remember we are all human and we all have rights.

To be fair tho centuries ago it was true. Males and females did make a family. In those days you needed a man and a woman to create a kid. Not like today where you can basically just create kids in a lab.

People want to have a same sex relationship that is fine. They want to have kids fine by me as well.

The problem arises where people are so eager to please minority groups they start to basically add them everywhere when their is no need to just to show they support minority groups.

And then they actually try to make out minority groups are ill treated when at times they are not. For mthere was a lot of complaints about the England womans team as i think it only had 3 non white players in the squad. Was several reports how in this day and age ethnic groups still do not get same opportunities. Where in Reality the actual amount of players in the squad was actually equal to the percentage of ethnic compared to white woman in the country. But the story about hardly any black players makes better news and a bigger outcry,

 

[dunover]

To be fair tho centuries ago it was true. Males and females did make a family. In those days you needed a man and a woman to create a kid. Not like today where you can basically just create kids in a lab.

People want to have a same sex relationship that is fine. They want to have kids fine by me as well.

The problem arises where people are so eager to please minority groups they start to basically add them everywhere when their is no need to just to show they support minority groups.

And then they actually try to make out minority groups are ill treated when at times they are not. For exapmle there was a lot of complaints the Englands womans team as i think it only had 3 non white players in the squad. Was several reports how in this day and age ethnic groups still do not get same opportunities. Where in Reality the actual amount of players in the squad was actually equal to the percentage of ethnic compared to white woman in the country. But the story about hardly any black players makes better news and a bigger outcry,

That was terribly true. I just KNEW after that Euro2022 victory that a BBC crony somewhere on SM would make a meal of that fact (the BBC cannot initiate the story as they are supposed to be impartial LOL so they 'report' on a trending item to get around it and continue their vile divisive agenda) and sure enough...

Now funnily enough, I didn't notice the same morons saying after Euro 2021 that the England male squad was wrong. Blacks over-represented, white and asians under-represented etc. The fucking hypocrites. So the male squad should really be 16 white English, 2 Black, 3 Asian and a Pole or Chinese.

If you're talking race quotas, then make sure you apply them uniformly.

 

[mack341]

This isn't the 1st story of its kind, and possibly it went on before with straight couples adopting, but equal opportunities for abusers is hardly a step forward.




And all this yacking on about rights, what about the children's rights just to have a normal upbringing.

I don't really care about what two consenting same sex people want to do to themselves, the life they themselves want to live etc... However some woman acting as a surrogate having a child and then passing it over like a product to two gay men to bring up, no not for me. Playing an artificial game with children's lives, when they have no say in the matter.

Being gay comes with realities, not having children is one of them, unless you've done a philip schofield or decided you're a lesbian after having children the normal way.

 

[TheAddict]

If they want to put an end to the moan about about not playing enough black players in England squads, if one or two of the White players temporarily decide they are transracial, identifying for the time being as a Black person, it would shut the moaners up. Play the game

 

[ESCJAMIE]

This isn't the 1st story of its kind, and possibly it went on before with straight couples adopting, but equal opportunities for abusers is hardly a step forward.

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And all this yacking on about rights, what about the children's rights just to have a normal upbringing.

I don't really care about what two consenting same sex people want to do to themselves, the life they want to live etc... However some women acting as a surrogate having a child and then passing it over like a product to two gay men to bring up, no not for me. Playing an artificial game with children's lives, when they have no say in the matter.

Being gay comes with realities, not having children is one of them, unless you've done a philip schofield or decided you're a lesbian after having children the normal way.

"Playing an artificial game with children's lives, when they have no say in the matter"

Just like kids with straight couples do not have a say in matter when they are bruised and batterd and end up in children homes.
Kids are kids they have no idea whats going on when they are born with a mom and dad or two dads.

"Being gay comes with realities, not having children is one"

Homosexual parents who spend shit tone of money via ivf or surrogate and are commited to bring up a child gives that child on average a more loving stable home than a straight couple who pop out kids like sweets and do not give 2 fucks about them.

As a single gay guy who has always wanted a child "son" You think I should never be allowed to have a child of my own cause I dont wanna fuck a woman?. Even thou I know I would bring a child up better than 99% of single chavs drug taking moms in flats on benifits each with 5 baby daddys not on the scene?

A child brough up with 2 men or 2 woman is gonna be exactly the same as a child brought up in a straight couple.

I respect your view Im just glad you are in the small minority who think this

 

[mack341]

"Playing an artificial game with children's lives, when they have no say in the matter"

Just like kids with straight couples do not have a say in matter when they are bruised and batterd and end up in children homes.
Kids are kids they have no idea whats going on when they are born with a mom and dad or two dads.

"Being gay comes with realities, not having children is one"

Homosexual parents who spend shit tone of money via ivf or surrogate and are commited to bring up a child gives that child on average a more loving stable home than a straight couple who pop out kids like sweets and do not give 2 fucks about them.

As a single gay guy who has always wanted a child "son" You think I should never be allowed to have a child of my own cause I dont wanna fuck a woman?. Even thou I know I would bring a child up better than 99% of single chavs drug taking moms in flats on benifits each with 5 baby daddys not on the scene?

A child brough up with 2 men or 2 woman is gonna be exactly the same as a child brought up in a straight couple.

I respect your view Im just glad you are in the small minority who think this

I have no time either for the straight couples/people you describe that are at fault. The story of the boy starved and fed salt during the lockdown was sickening and made a very strong case for bringing back the rope.

Not sure I am in such a small minority as you believe on this subject, i.e. gay adoption or the surrogate thing.

But certainly the state/authorities are on your side of the argument, and support these practices.

 

[DreamRJ]

Good to see you!

Whilst I agree with what you say, I do also have to make my point (not aimed at you but at the "powers that be" in general) that there is a difference between educating people and ramming it down their throats

Getting the balance right is the important bit, something they have never managed to do.

But that is where you are wrong, that is not what is happening. No one is jamming anything down anyone's throats. It is more about the fact that 2 moms or 2 dads should be the same as a mum and dad. That is the whole point, I am glad the world has changed a lot and peoples views have too, but it was this thread that made me break my silence and forced me to speak my mind.

I mean the way I see it going back to my original post was this, look at it like this, what if in a world all those centuries ago. It was always known that family's could be 2 mums/2 dads/1 mum and 1 dad............... so you see it should not matter. What matters actually is that the child is loved and grows up in a happy home.

I have said my points now, I do not really know what else to say without maybe upsetting some people.

Anyway, thanks for the welcome back, but I am not back as such, I still check the forum from time to time, just an old habit, but when I saw the thread title and read it I just could not hold back lol. I have not gambled now for nearly 10 months, I also will not be gambling ever again online.

What is more as I always said, I never had a problem anyway and I could easily prove that to you, I did not use any of the tools to self exclude in any of the casinos I used to play at, nor did I use GAMSTOP. I just decided I did not want to gamble anymore, I was always in control of it anyway

But yeah just wanted to give you all an update in-case any of you was curious

Take care everyone and maybe see you around from time to time.

 

[DreamRJ]

You could argue that the word 'family' traditionally meant a status reached when a couple had children, thus becoming a family, or pregnancy meant the woman 'was in the family way' which is an old term I'm sure we've all heard. Couple-Children-Family-Grandkids etc. I think you're omitting to mention 'only males and females make children' which is still as far as I know biologically correct. Children, it's commonly accepted, are components of a family otherwise you're simply a couple.

I would like to see a distinction in debate between traditional family and hybrid family - hybrid being one where kids were added BEFORE a same-sex partnership began, or after it began if adopted (or purchased like Pitt and Jolie did) or created by donors (like the two girly piglets would need to create a hybrid family.)

Children aren't a right and never have been.

Everyone know of that saying right? "A family is what you make it"

A family is made when you meet the person you love, that is if you believe in love. Some people do not believe in love.

You can still be classed a "family" without kids involved too. Just saying, so when I was using the word family I was just talking generally. I mean I could go into more details but no point, I am sure you all can grasp what I am trying to say and point out

 

[dunover]

"Playing an artificial game with children's lives, when they have no say in the matter"

Just like kids with straight couples do not have a say in matter when they are bruised and batterd and end up in children homes.
Kids are kids they have no idea whats going on when they are born with a mom and dad or two dads.

"Being gay comes with realities, not having children is one"

Homosexual parents who spend shit tone of money via ivf or surrogate and are commited to bring up a child gives that child on average a more loving stable home than a straight couple who pop out kids like sweets and do not give 2 fucks about them.

As a single gay guy who has always wanted a child "son" You think I should never be allowed to have a child of my own cause I dont wanna fuck a woman?. Even thou I know I would bring a child up better than 99% of single chavs drug taking moms in flats on benifits each with 5 baby daddys not on the scene?

A child brough up with 2 men or 2 woman is gonna be exactly the same as a child brought up in a straight couple.

I respect your view Im just glad you are in the small minority who think this

That's just it though - it's certainly not a 'small minority' despite the massive indoctrination effort. We need to get this straight (no pun...) - it's a small minority that dare to speak out from a large majority...

With the stifling of debate and cancel culture very quickly it leads to the wrong picture being painted so many people actually believe this myth, the fallacy, the propaganda.

I do agree that there certainly is a large number of straight couples that aren't fit to be called parents. Your example is kinda like a 'Vicky Pollard' type but they do exist, in large numbers.