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Question What slot features do you hate?

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Casinomeister, Nov 24, 2015.

    Nov 24, 2015
  1. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    After my experience in Malta last week (upcoming newsletter - stay tuned), I was thinking about slot features that I hate. Some come to mind:

    Scatters that only pay out if they are in a certain pay line - hell these are SCATTERS, and should be treated as such.

    Getting two out of three scatters and nothing happens. I like to to at least have my funds returned.

    Getting an expandable wild, and it makes a big hullabaloo with bells and whistles, and there is no win.

    What sayeth thou?
     
  2. Nov 24, 2015
  3. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Certainly agree on the 'No pay for 2 scatters' just give us 1x at least, you'll get it back next 'click'

    Also...

    Extra Scatters which are meaningless (Jack and the Beanstalk springs to mind)

    Features which are no different from base games (apart from not using credits/balance) - (EG:Wild Rockets??)

    Extra Wild features, where looking at regular play, exactly what extra wilds are those then ?? (EG:Jurassic Park)

    Countless Re-triggers into hundreds of FS but still penny wins (EG: Raging Rhino, Montezuma) if you don't wanna pay me, then simply don't re-trigger :p
     
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  4. Nov 24, 2015
  5. Casino2014man

    Casino2014man Non-Gambler

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    Waiting for Wizard of Oz to give 2 or 5x of a 15p win on Glinda

    Watching the wilds flash and add up on Lost Island for no win

    Slots where 5x scatter doesn't pay!
     
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  6. Nov 24, 2015
  7. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    How long have you got Bryan? lol

    I'll come up with my erm...."rap sheet" later.
     
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  8. Nov 24, 2015
  9. Cocochanel

    Cocochanel Experienced Member

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    Pick me where the first one you hit is collect or one out off 3 you pick the lowest bonus most of the times.
     
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  10. Nov 24, 2015
  11. Wild Reels

    Wild Reels Meister Member webmeister

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    The worst has to be on NetEnt slots, not a feature as such but after the feature where it says "Congratulations you won 0 coins" after the worlds worst bonus round :oops:

    nothing like kicking a man whens hes down :D
     
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  12. Nov 24, 2015
  13. Cocochanel

    Cocochanel Experienced Member

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    Getting a free spins bonus round on WMS and the game freezes and it takes 3 or 4 days to fix it......I JUST HATE IT
     
  14. Nov 24, 2015
  15. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    5-20x stake is NOT a 'BIG WIN'. So don't make a fuss about it (I love the way that DOA can drop 2500x into your balance for 5 scatters, without any kind of fuss)
     
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  16. Nov 24, 2015
  17. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    MY (c)rap sheet:

    4-scatter 'trigger of doom' on MG games - you know for the 20x stake it pays that the bonus round will be shite 99% of the time.:mad:

    Raping Rhino - endless retriggers and getting BoG (bonus frickin' guarantee) after 33 spins.:mad:

    4-scatter trigger of doom on Netent where it SHOULD benefit you like Evolution and TFTUT - the 5 extra spins usually play out first with sod-all so you effectively start the action at 10 free spins anyway.:mad:

    AND THAT F*CKING MORONIC, POINTLESS, ILLOGICAL AND INFLAMMATORY BIT OF INANITY ON TFTUT - YOU GET THE TARGET ON YOUR LAST FREE SPIN WHEN IT CAN'T ACHIEVE ANYTHING AND INSTEAD OF KILLING THE BONUS ROUND LIKE IT SHOULD, YOU GET A SUPERFLUOUS, UNNECESSARY AND IRKSOME VIDEO OF THE TURD BEING HARPOONED!!!



    WHY?????????
     
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  18. Nov 24, 2015
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Free spins where the scatters can't retrigger, but still have to get in the way and block line wins.

    Free spins with a 1x multiplier, worse still if no retrigger possible.

    Slots (RTG springs to mind) where a really good free spin round is cut short at 2000x stake or similar due to an RTP and variance robbing upper limit that prevents the rare but truly spectacular bonus round payout.

    As this is not necessarily restricted to online slots, the worst "feature" of all I have encountered is a land slot that pays "air" instead of the win due to lack of coins or a jam in the payout mechanisms. Most UK fruit machine players will know what I am on about, and may well get angry just reading this and being reminded of some of their worst experiences.

    My worst is probably well over £100 worth of "air" paid out after the coins ran out on a £500 jackpot machine when they first came out. This seems to have been corrected in 2015 as many such machines now pay Vegas style "tickets" rather than money, which can be redeemed for notes as well as £1 coins at separate payout kiosks. I am sure that eventually some lazy technician will fail to restock these payout kiosks, and the "air pay" will again haunt me.
     
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  20. Nov 24, 2015
  21. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Eh?? What game was that - I never saw one that did that, S16 or B3 because they are digital and put the balance on the screen 'call attendant'!!

    You must be referring to a club 500 with the old electromechanical coin tubes?
     
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  22. Nov 24, 2015
  23. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    - Not being able to skip a coin count up
    - 4 or 5 scatters that don't pay
    - Random wild reels that only reveal left to right
    - Bet increments that practically double (or worse) when you try to increase your bet.
    - Constant wins paying a fraction of your bet (just scrap 'em and make the top pays bigger!)
    - Reels that spin too slowly (ie Dead or Alive)
    - Reel strips that show symbols that don't exist on that reel (ie: Hitman and most RTG slots)
    - Sequential bonus rounds where you have no say (Avalon II)
    - Wilds that expand when there is no winning combo
    - Slots depicting old men wearing loud shirts and drinking beer
    - Symbols that land with a slight bounce and make you seasick
     
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  24. Nov 25, 2015
  25. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

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    I hate the bonus round in blood suckers where you pick the coffins, rather just have the free spins.

    Another one is games where they don't pay for the two scatters like eagle wings etc
     
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  26. Nov 25, 2015
  27. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    - Wild in base pay should always double your win, e.g. T2, IR
    - 2 scatter should at least pay 1xbet
    - 4 or 5 scatter should give higher amount of FS or higher multiplier
    - 3 or 5 (Jack Hammer 2) scatter should at least pay 3 x bet
    - pick bonuses should not end if pick 1 is "collect". It should be either "win all" or at least 1 x "second chance"
    - FS should always retrigger in bonus rounds; e.g. Loaded where regularly you get 3xscatter during FS and nothing happens
    - big win music only if win is 50xbet or higher (20×bet is not a big win!!!!)
    - player should have the option to replay bonus rounds - MG Aussie themed 9-line slot "No Worries" offers that, see screenshot below:

    What slot features do you hate?: Capture 168.jpg,Nov 25, 2015

    - stop placing 1 scatter in a position to block a good 5OAK base win; i see it happening just too often to believe it is random
    - wild storm or wild desire (T2, IR) feature should always pay something, after all you wait sometimes 1000 spins to get it. Shitting in your face then with only 1 reel turning wild with no pay or worse, 2 or 3 reels turning wild and still no pay is an insult to the player who lost a ton to get the feature
    - all slots should have quick spin
    - introduce a button somewhere on the screen to skip coin count
    - introduce a button somewhere on the screen to allow the player to take a screenshot
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2015
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  28. Nov 25, 2015
  29. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Most have already covered a lot of the things I dislike.

    The ones I dislike the most are...

    A Wild Reels feature that pays zero (ie Shitstorm, Wild Desire, T-Rex free spins).

    A Wild Reels feature where the reels are turned wild from left to right (takes all the surprise out of it).

    Bouncing reels (particularly annoying on a "failed heartstopper" when you get 2 scatters and see the third one stop one row short of landing) - this used to get on my wick so much on games like IR that I actually started to play them at Quickspin settings.

    The dreaded 4 scatter trigger of a NetEnt feature - the turd is easily the biggest offender here.

    Free spin rounds with a multiplier of 1x.

    Random wild features that might not improve your win (aka Dark Knight Batman Vision and "Flaming Wilds" where "extra" wilds are placed over already existing wilds).

    General all round "wild wastage", especially during features where all wins are multiplied by 5x.

    Getting a choice of features when you know one has huge win potential, while the other does not - for example, having to pick from either
    "Whispering Woods" (Choose A Shield) or "Forest Falls" (Trailing Wilds) on Avalon 2.

    Scatters that cannot re-trigger and/or pay acting as win blockers during free spins.

    Games where a 5OAK in the base game doesn't even represent a profitable bet (eg 5OAK of 9s on Finer Reels pays 1x bet).

    Micro wins that can go as low as 0.04x stake (Break Away, Leagues Of Fortune etc).

    And one that really bugs me....after a FS round on Avalon ends, the ridiculous likelihood that the very next spin will contain a plethora of wilds, chests and crowns that would have resulted in a monster 5OAK win had it occurred during the FS round that had just finished.

    Raging Rhino - A 4,096 ways slot that has an "ultimate" win of only 879 ways (729 ways of rhino plus 150 of crocodile). It may be more than that
    (it might be possible to get 945 way wins - 864 ways of cheetahs plus 81 ways of rhino). Either way, that leaves over 75% of the total number of ways unable to provide a win, even in the absolute best case win scenario. A case of too many ways spoil the slot. At least on a 243 ways slot game, there is a scenario where all 243 way wins can be achieved, even 324 on a 4-reel Wild Reels Feature.
     
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  30. Nov 25, 2015
  31. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    Pick a box style BS like Bloodsuckers has, where you get a zero win empty coffin on the first damn pick! At least with Hitman you always get something!!

    Wilds skiffing past on DOA during the feature really annoys me or 1 wild on the last reel last spin I want to put my fist through something!!

    Dead wild Desire,Wild Celebration and WildStorm spins.

    Scatters that need to be in order to activate free spins especially stupid orders like reel 1,3,5 or 3,4,5 the only slot that actually triggers with this format is Ghost Pirates(Victorious) and occasionally Titan Storm...

    Mini features that say BIG win on 10x stake gimme a break I could get that on a bloody normal spin!

    And possibly the most fiendishly devised feature known to man, pick wrong and you get no free spins! Yes I mean you Bigfoot(NG) and Aladdin's Wishes(RTG)!!:mad:
     
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  32. Nov 25, 2015
  33. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    You can actually get the 729-way dream rhino hit with more than 150 ways of 5 or 6 crocs. IF the reels 4 and 5 have 1 and 2 crocs with wild respectively. As for cheetards you can get 1152 ways I believe. Reels 3 and 5 have a cheetard with wild and I think 2 does too IIRC but it has to be a specific wild in only one position reel 2.
     
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  34. Nov 25, 2015
  35. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Ah yeah that's a good one too!
     
  36. Nov 25, 2015
  37. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Another one to add which has wound me up the moment I spotted it!!!

    Koi Princess - When you have 2 out of 3 Scatter/bonus symbols and the fish jumps out the water 'pulling at the reel' showing the missing scatter is just above, like its saying 'Look how close you were, shall I make you think this is a 'nudge' type feature?'

    Na, Fuck you lol!
     
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  38. Nov 25, 2015
  39. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    I wasn't certain mate. I seem to recall (while playing a session the other night) that you can get 2 cheetahs reel 1 and 3 cheetahs reel 6. I'm certain that it is possible to get a cheetah and a wild on reels 3 and 5. I thought I saw a cheetah and a wild on reel 4 ONCE but cannot be sure, but I was fairly certain there was no cheetah plus wild combo possible on reel 2. So yes, I think 1152 ways might be availabe.

    As for getting 864 ways of cheetahs plus 81 ways of rhino, I think that the two cheetahs on Reel 1 must be on the bottom 2 rows for the rhino to appear on the top row. 2 cheetahs in the middle row would mean K on top and Q on bottom. 2 cheetahs on the top two rows would mean Q and 9(?)
    below.

    The 729 ways of rhino plus the 150 ways of crocs....this was the one I wasn't sure about. I can't remember if you can get a croc on reel 6 with 3 rhinos. What I do know is that you can get (as you said) 1 croc plus wild on reel 4 and 2 crocs plus wild on reel 5. Which would make it 180 ways of crocs, wouldn't it?

    I just realised there's a hell of a lot of if and ans in this post lol :oops:
     

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