What is the worst/best paying casino.

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What is your worst casino ever? Where it impossible to win without a big wager requirement stuck to it?

They all claim random spins blah blah blah but experienced players can see right through any casino that is not kosher.

Example....... 250 deposit with 15k requirement. First 7000 of wagers u r hitting everything and then it's all gone with barely anything left by the time u can cash out. Happens many times.


Jackpot city is by far the worst on my list for that

Non bonus attached are videoslots.com, 32red and All slots(impossible to win big)

Best paying casinos for me are all rockets.........

go wild cAsino
Jet bull
Next casino
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I deposit less than 200 many times and reach well over 10k. They are just different.
 
With your logic then best casinos are the ones I win at and worst casinos are the ones I lose at...

Example I win at some crappy casino with poor CS and long withdrawal time therfore that casino is the best and while I lose at a casino like Guts with great CS and super fast cashout that casino would be the worst. :rolleyes:
 
What is your worst casino ever? Where it impossible to win without a big wager requirement stuck to it?
All the casinos in your post use mostly MG or NetEnt software, and they ARE random games which the casino can not influence.
What you really should of asked is "What are your luckiest and unluckiest casinos ever?"
The only thing which separates the type of casinos you are talking about is the level of WR they impose. Obviously the lower the WR, the better your chances of meeting it & making a cash-out.

KK
 
Non bonus attached are videoslots.com, 32red and All slots(impossible to win big)

As far as 32Red goes, I have hit big and won at times on 32Red without a bonus attached but on the flip side lost at times as well without a bonus attached lol But the wins can and do happen without a bonus attached.:)

However I do know what you mean; sometimes it does seem like when a bonus is attached to your deposit you do seem to hit more and win more in comparison to no bonus being attached. Then when you start missing everything and the slots have gone cold you realize the wagering requirements have already been met and/or just finished.:eek:

Perhaps a good time to cash out lol

Is this all in our head or are we just being superstitious?:rolleyes:

What is your worst casino ever?
Classy Coin or On Bling

The worst Casinos for me are the ones that will keep your winnings and refuse to pay you even if you do win. lol

The Casino Group I am referring to is the following:
Winpalace Group
Begado Casino
Casino Titan
Golden Cherry
Jackpot Grand
Slots of Fortune
Slots Jungle
Winpalace Casino

Directly connected to Winpalace Group
Revenue Jet Casinos
OnBling Casino
Grand Parker Casino
Loco Panda Casino
Classy Coin Casino
Ruby Royal Casino

Worst Casino Group of the year 2013, 2011, 2010

All of the above connected from the same rogue group of Casinos are not too be trusted. In my experience I finally decided to give Win Palace Casino a try so had them call me on the phone and spoke to someone to make sure my address was updated before playing since at the time I had just recently moved.

I had heard about incidents where people would win and then want to change their address or phone number after winning when submitting their requirements for verification to make a withdrawal only to be denied their winnings for not having their address or telephone number updated before winning.

In my case I wanted to make sure all of my account information was up to date and spoke to someone on the phone that went over it all with me beforehand. The person from Win Palace Casino on the phone assisted me and talked me through the 1st deposit in the amount of $21 receiving their standard 400% bonus offer on a 1st deposit and I was stuck with the wagering requirements that took over a few days and at least 10 plus hours to get lucky and finally meet the wagering requirements.

I had around $280.00 after meeting the wagering requirements and was congratulated on my winnings by live-chat. The next time I went to log into my account it would not let me log in so I inquired about it through live-chat only to find out that they closed my account and Win Palace Casino was now denying paying me out the winnings. I was given no reason at all whatsoever other than that management just decided to close my account and all winnings and my initial deposit would be forfeited. How upsetting!

Win Palace Casino and their group of casinos are dishonest and not too be trusted. Only after this experience did I learn that this casino group has done the same thing to many people and I believe they pick and choose who they feel they can get away with closing their account and taking their money and just do it. They cannot cheat everyone or would go out of business obviously but I believe they take advantage of as many people as they possibly can.

So the worst Casinos are of course the Casinos that will not pay you even if you do win.

If you do not wish to be taken advantage of then I suggest you stay away from all of these not to be trusted Rogue Casinos.

Winpalace Group
Begado Casino
Casino Titan
Golden Cherry
Jackpot Grand
Slots of Fortune
Slots Jungle
Winpalace Casino

Directly connected to Winpalace Group
Revenue Jet Casinos
OnBling Casino
Grand Parker Casino
Loco Panda Casino
Classy Coin Casino
Ruby Royal Casino

Worst Casino Group of the year 2013, 2011, 2010

"Rogue": an unprincipled person, a scoundrel, a rascal, an undesirable deviation from a standard. The Rogue Casino list is a bit more serious than simply not being recommended. Most of these casinos are guilty of gross customer negligence bordering on the criminal. Some of these casinos have disappeared leaving their players empty handed and downright disgusted with the industry as a whole.

Rogue list - https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/
 
Casinos are not 100% random. Now way!

There is no way they are all programmed the same. No way

How can two different casinos with the same exact games have a payout of 94% and 96%? Mathematically it is 1-10000000000" after billions of spins.

The each have an agreement with the software providers of whAt the payout will be.

Yes it is random but random with total control of earnings.

Example... Video slots claims. 94% payout rate.
Example... Go Wild casino claims 96%+ payout rate.

Go deposit 200 in each and play the same exact game.

I will guarantee you that Go Wild pay better. And keep paying better.


It does not make videoslots a rogue or liars or anything like that. They have just set their machine to pay less. They have every right to do this.

That's why, you should be very careful where u play.
 
Wager requirements.........

Every one complains about wager requirement????? Why????

An honest casino doubled your deposit. The tell you 50x bonus!!!!!

Perfectly normal.

Even for penny players.

I support high requirements. Yes I do.

Learn how to play properly and you will cash out more.

Example..... another forum a guy deposited 20 dollars(wow) and got 20 more with 50x requirement.

He hit 40 dollars early and wanted to cash out?? Come on!! He complained after he lost it all. Give me a break.

Why should any casino give u free money???? Play through any requirement and stop whining. They were nice enough to give you double your deposit. They told you u had to wager 50x. So why do people complain??? Don't take bonus if you are going to cry!!!
 
Video slots

Even though I believe their 100% bonus is a Ponzi scheme and is no where near a real bonus, their terms make it clear.

The only thing they are guilty about is sending emails saying 100% bonus up to 200 dollars. It is not the actual bonus at fault, it is the way the company presents it to mislead people. And many people have complained about it.

It is clear in the terms. Somewhere in the fine print. I read it too late!
 
If by best you mean loosest slots, I think inetbet is the loosest RTG I know of - whatever the highest RTP setting is, likely that is the one inetbet uses. I don't know for a fact, just guessing based upon how their slots play for me.

Tropica is also a fairly generous casino with the best paying slots on Rival, in my experience.

As for tightest slots, even the 'best' casino can get tight, over time. A casino whose slots never pay is a casino that is likely to fold in short order, because where's the fun or entertainment in that?
 
I would have to say 32RED casino as I have deposited $9000 and have withdrawn $18000. That's the Only casino besides Redbet that I'am up at. Just stick to one casino and about 6-12 different games all the time. Eventually one of them will pay off, or you play another slot and it starts to hit big. Usually I would up my bet because you get a feel with the MG software when you are due so you bet bigger.
 
Wow. U won at 32red.

I would have to say 32RED casino as I have deposited $9000 and have withdrawn $18000. That's the Only casino besides Redbet that I'am up at. Just stick to one casino and about 6-12 different games all the time. Eventually one of them will pay off, or you play another slot and it starts to hit big. Usually I would up my bet because you get a feel with the MG software when you are due so you bet bigger.


Just for my curiosity....

Had u put in 9k and then not or was it slowly?

Like put in 500 and cash 1000 etc,,,,,
 
Just for my curiosity....

Had u put in 9k and then not or was it slowly?

Like put in 500 and cash 1000 etc,,,,,

Nah, I actually deposited ONLY $50 and won $15,000 playing break Da bank again and BlackJack. Other than that I have been with 32RED for about 5 years now. My deposits are anywhere between $50 and $300 at any one casino at a time. I will always usually bet on the bigger side and never under $1- I don't care If I only get a short amount of play, It's more the thrill of hitting BIG wins that I enjoy.

There are a few different things you can also do to kind of help you towards the winning edge, of course there isn't much with slots so its more of a money management thing. Say you start your normal bet at $1, play 50 spins at $1 and if you don't get free spins, then up your bet, then go $1.20 for another 50 free spins and again if you dont hit free spins then up the bet again, but set a maximum limit aswell like $2-$3, if nothing happens then- try changing the $ amount up and down for another 100 spins .Once you get the free spins- drop your bet back down to the original stake, and start over. If you feel the machine is tight and your not getting at least 40-50% rerturn on 100 spins, then move on.

Hope that helps you some.

Regards,
Same_old
 
No no, As I said I play to win big and I don't deposit that much and won't mmwithdraw unless it is over $1k- Don't get me wrong, nine years ago when I started I loved just to double my deposit and withdraw, but over the years betting patterns and all that change. As I said, How would you feel winning $15,000 off a $50 deposit.NO days if I hit it big on a feature I kick myself if it is under $2 per spin.
Sorry back to your question, I will admit I didn't have the best of runs at first with 32RED as I was betting wrong ( I feel anyway) and put in a good $2000 before I made my first withdrawal and that was under $500. Trust me- if you want to hit BIG by betting modestly, then 32RED IS the place for you. They love to have massive free spin payouts on 50 cent bets etc. plus, with the daily bonuses they have on offer you have a real good chance of at least getting ahead.

I want to also add that when I won the $15,000 the money was in MY personal bank account in under 24 hours. I got a phone call of well done and to add a little story to my great win. I never once got worried in getting that money. You try and play at some places and win $15,000 off $50 and I bet you are in for a " not in the spirit of gaming" bullshit. they will try there hardest not to pay.
 
Excellent

I had an extrmely bad run at 32 red. Very bad. 50k in in a month and cashed out 0

I see everyone raving about it but I honestly found it to be the worst paying casino I ever played.

A bad run is a ban run but what I went through was surreal. I never got balance over 2700.

I turned a 50 gift at BGO into 8000+£. Yup. Happens.

But for me, consistency is better. My high rolling needs that. Chasing those big hits will make me to broke. I need steadyness. I did not find that at 32 red.
 
There is no way they are all programmed the same. No way

How can two different casinos with the same exact games have a payout of 94% and 96%?

Easily. First off, very rarely two casino will have EXACT same games. Even if they are powered by the same software, one may be slower than the other in adding the newest games, also each casino has its own discretion in removing the games from availability.

But most importantly, what matters is not the set of games that are available but the set of games people play, and how much they wager on each game. This can be influenced by random factors, such as a high-roller playing in casino 1 likes game X and another high-roller in casino 2 likes game Y. Also, this can depend on the particular casino's marketing strategy, e.g. Casino 1 may encourage play on a specific game(s) by offering free spins/ other bonuses / tournaments. To complicate it further, some casinos have better bonus terms for table games, which typically have a higher RTP than slots, and then again a high-roller playing blackjack may influence the overall payout percentage substantially.

In general, you should pay little (if any) attention to that "overall" payout percentage they advertise on the home page, because it is just an advertisement point. What really matters is RTP for individual games. And yes, those games are random for major Softwares like Microgaming and NetEnt. You want a bet? :)
 
Every one complains about wager requirement????? Why????

An honest casino doubled your deposit. The tell you 50x bonus!!!!!

Perfectly normal.

Even for penny players.

I support high requirements. Yes I do.

Learn how to play properly and you will cash out more.

Example..... another forum a guy deposited 20 dollars(wow) and got 20 more with 50x requirement.

He hit 40 dollars early and wanted to cash out?? Come on!! He complained after he lost it all. Give me a break.

Why should any casino give u free money???? Play through any requirement and stop whining. They were nice enough to give you double your deposit. They told you u had to wager 50x. So why do people complain??? Don't take bonus if you are going to cry!!!

Completely agree with you Johnny. Any experienced Casino player knows when they sign up to a Casino and take the bonus that they are going to have to play a LOT to clear the wagering requirement!! Even if you're not experienced, it's generally made pretty clear. Can't see why people then whine about it!

I actually quite enjoy the challenge of attempting to play through to real money again... If I ever get that far...
 
I really enjoyed reading your post.

Easily. First off, very rarely two casino will have EXACT same games. Even if they are powered by the same software, one may be slower than the other in adding the newest games, also each casino has its own discretion in removing the games from availability.

But most importantly, what matters is not the set of games that are available but the set of games people play, and how much they wager on each game. This can be influenced by random factors, such as a high-roller playing in casino 1 likes game X and another high-roller in casino 2 likes game Y. Also, this can depend on the particular casino's marketing strategy, e.g. Casino 1 may encourage play on a specific game(s) by offering free spins/ other bonuses / tournaments. To complicate it further, some casinos have better bonus terms for table games, which typically have a higher RTP than slots, and then again a high-roller playing blackjack may influence the overall payout percentage substantially.

In general, you should pay little (if any) attention to that "overall" payout percentage they advertise on the home page, because it is just an advertisement point. What really matters is RTP for individual games. And yes, those games are random for major Softwares like Microgaming and NetEnt. You want a bet? :)



Now. I am willing to be reasonable. I am willing to believe you and I am willing to listen.

You sound serious. I respect that.


Explain this to me....

How is it that I put in 7500 dollars at Casino A @ 250 per shot.
Never cashed out
Had my play analysed by a university professor. Probably the smartest physisist in the world.
Only got over -"1000 when big wager requirement was attached.

Professor gave me the numbers.

Payout rate was deviating over 40% average when bonus was attached.

This needs to be explained.

Then....

Casino B

Deposited 250 each time. Maybe 10 deposits in all. Play was studied again. Deviation was nil.

Cashed out plenty of times. Every cash out over 10k.

They literally have the exact same games?

How is that possible. Please tell me.

I am strictly Assuming..... That each casino signs a deal with the provider and establishes their over all payout rate. It is 100% legal to do this. I have no issue with this.

Before u answer me... I wager 500-1million per month. I know my shit. I have seen the difference in providers.

Are u telling me that every single casino online that has netent and MG has the exact same payout rate agreement with the software providerS. If so, can u provide me some sort of proof so I can stop assuming.

Thanks in advance.

Later
 
Ok, so you were unlucky with a few casinos, and you don't want to play there any more. Fair enough. What I don't understand is that, just because you never won in those casinos, you want name them as a "bad casino".
That is just your experience. There are people who won big money there.

You mentioned you have won big in few casinos, but you have to know there are people who never won big with the casinos where you won big. I really don't believe in the casinos you labelled as good everybody is winner, if that is the case, those casinos was bankrupt long time ago.
 
Johnny,

I won't comment on the professor part, unless he/she registers on this forum and posts all calculations in this thread. Otherwise it would be unprofessional on my part.

But I can easily comment on the story itself. Given that you play a lot, wager a lot, and likely make some big bets what you described is perfectly normal. The more you play the less you deviate from the average in terms of percentage, but you are likely to achieve higher and higher deviations in absolute value (dollars).

Also, if you play in two or more casinos (same games, same strategy) for several sessions in each, the least likely outcome would be getting the same result in each casino. If you wager a lot and play aggressively you become less likely to get the two similar results and more likely to get very different results.

Here is a little experiment for you. Take a deck of cards. Shuffle it well. Divide it into two equal piles, 26 cards in each, face down. Let's name the first pile "Casino 1" and the second pile will be "Casino 2". Now turn the first pile over. For each ace add 50 points, for each face card add 10 points. The other cards do not add to the score. Sum up the total score for "Casino 1". Do the same for "Casino 2". I bet my 10 dollars against your dollar the two scores are different. I can also prove that there is a higher chance for them to be very different than to be exactly the same.
 

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