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What is the true story behind The Frankstein slot by Netent?

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by CasinoNinja, Mar 7, 2018.

    Mar 7, 2018
  1. CasinoNinja

    CasinoNinja Experienced Member

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    So, as far I've heard the slot was pulled because you could basically force a certain outcome during the bonus rounds, something to do with the multipliers.

    Now that they are back out there and that has been fixed, could anyone shed some light on how you could cheat the slot? It shouldn't matter anymore right?

    Netent ofcourse refused to admit anything when Letsgiveitaspin asked him at ICE.. :)
     
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  2. Mar 7, 2018
  3. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    I do not think we will ever know. The poster who reported it said they will not tell. They probably also signed some sort of NDA so they are silenced.

    And as for Net Ent saying. They will never tell either. It will only tarnish them. And make them look bad lol

    But I was also always curious. But it is just one of those things we will never know even though we would like to know lol :)
     
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  4. Mar 7, 2018
  5. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    Didn't Nicola know what it was? Happened a while ago, mind. Someone round these parts knows for sure. Just spill the beans already. Or make something up, not like we'd tell the difference! :oops:

    Speaking of which, someone wheel out Trancemonkey. About time we found a use for him! :p

    (He knows alright. Just like he knows slots are rigged)
     
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  6. Mar 7, 2018
  7. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    thats NOT what he said



    he said RIGGED RIGGED I tells ya :p

    I dont even recall...was it something to do with an exploit? Since the mults were rare and random on the 5th wheel, I'm not even sure what was exploited; still curious too
     
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  8. Mar 7, 2018
  9. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    If I recall, it was something to do with the fact you could stop the reel on the bonus symbol. I cant remember if that was it though. I read soo many things over the years. But it does seem that, that could be what it was. But it might be something completely different though! :p

    But saying that, that above might have been a guess some others made in the thread at the time. So I might have just had that stick in my mind lol. As I said, I read a lot over the years :p :D :D
     
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  10. Mar 7, 2018
  11. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    You just had to say the 'R' word in this thread, didn't you!

    I think you could type a sequence on your keyboard or something or other and trigger an exploit?

    Word on the street was you had to type

    “Even broken in spirit as he is, no one can feel more deeply than he does the beauties of nature. The starry sky, the sea, and every sight afforded by these wonderful regions, seems still to have the power of elevating his soul from earth. Such a man has a double existence: he may suffer misery, and be overwhelmed by disappointments; yet, when he has retired into himself, he will be like a celestial spirit that has a halo around him, within whose circle no grief or folly ventures"

    to grant the player a 120% RTP, but these rumours are unfounded.
     
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  12. Mar 7, 2018
  13. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    Well what ever the exploit was. I and I think many others would love to play a slot with 120% RTP lol who wouldn't lol.

    Wouldn't it be great if a slot provider actually made a slot with 100% RTP :p it would still not mean they would lose money on it would it?

    Because even slots that have 98% RTP we still have losing sessions on them lol. So what difference would that extra 2% make to actually winning?

    I reckon the bigger slot providers could probably afford to do it, they could offset it with the other lower RTP slots in their portfolios. Oh am I dreaming again? hahahaha
     
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  14. Mar 7, 2018
  15. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    I'm certain there's been a few slots close to or at 99%, sure I've heard it somewhere:cool:
     
  16. Mar 7, 2018
  17. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    Yep it was some of the PlayTech ones. Cant remember the names of them though. But they was really bad old school style slots though. :p
     
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  18. Mar 7, 2018
  19. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    Ugga Bugga and that DreamRJ haahaha!!
     
  20. Mar 7, 2018
  21. Janek12

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    I seem to recall that it was some combination of keys pressed on a keyboard (which did something to the game but I do not know what); I must have read it somewhere here because I do not read any other gambling forum.
    But it would make sense - from what Nicola posted, it seemed she stumbled across this by chance. And probably others did, too.

    I took it as a great example and lesson - despite all the certification mechanisms, a coder was able to slip something like this in the software. So playing a slot has always been a double gamble to me since then :D (not knowing what the slot will do according to the set rules and not knowing what other additions might have been included in the slot on the sly).
     
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  22. Mar 7, 2018
  23. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

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    Ahhhhh this old chestnut :p

    All I can say is honesty is the best policy when you notice a bug in a slot game. Afterall, it's the casino operator that loses out not the provider.
     
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  24. Mar 7, 2018
  25. Steviedoo

    Steviedoo Senior Member

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    With gameart games....in fun mode at one point...you could trigger the bonus by pressing the number key.....so you can see what the bonus feature looks like....
     
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  26. Mar 7, 2018
  27. adamtheaddict

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    I cant remember who it was, or on what slots, or if the games were ever even released in real play (aint i helpful..) , but there was someone here, i beleive a rep, who gave a key command here on ceartin slot(s) that triggered the bonus everytime u pressed them while in free play mode.

    I wont ask if it was a similar command as i know i wont likely get an answer lol, but i did wonder if that was actually possible then this "combination" could have been used in test mode sorta thing, before frank went live, and somehow accidently not removed from the final release.
    .....Or dare i say it... left in on purpose when released and someone(s) was slowly milking it in an not too obvious way?

    I mean, you could in theory (if the above is at all possible to acheive!) Have a close friend playing lots of different casinos and triggering the bonus every so often when required, no need to take the piss constantly lol. and it would be hard to notice them doing it if also playing other slots, not to mention over many many casinos, seemingly in turn making it very hard to trace it back to whoever originally had the idea.

    Bit like trancemonkeys favorite step brothers son possibly having a casino wide rtp on trancemonkeys particular game of about 969000% ;p
     
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  28. Mar 7, 2018
  29. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    So I take it you wont elaborate as to what it was if you know? would be nice to finally know the real reason behind it? lol
     
  30. Mar 7, 2018
  31. suchfun

    suchfun Banned User

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    of course there is back doors to every game everywhere,how else would the house bots clean up on all the games ready to pay:lolup::lolup::lolup:
     
  32. Mar 7, 2018
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    BetVoyager have a whole casino suite of 100% RTP games (including slots).
    The only "catch" is you pay a fee of 10% of your winnings (only) when you cash-out.
    I think most people don't mind a charge being made only when they win. I'm surprised the casino isn't more popular...

    Back on topic: Come on Nicola - spill the beans already - I REALLY want to know what the glitch was! :mad:

    KK
     
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  34. Mar 7, 2018
  35. GC_Konstantin

    GC_Konstantin Experienced Member webmeister

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    No, I can tell you it wasn't that. Frankenstein was one of my favorite Netent slots couple years ago. It was one of those few slots that would have a lower RTP if not played with maximum lines !

    At some casinos you could stop the spin manually and at some you couldn't do that (like it was for Piggy Riches, another favorite of mine). I'm telling you 100%, you couldn't stop the spin and catch the 3rd mill to trigger the bonus.
    Neither stop the spin when you saw one or two wilds rolling on the screen ! I do not know what the exploit was, but certainly was none of the above ! Later though, most (all ?) casinos didn't allowed the manual stop spin anymore.....
     
  36. Mar 7, 2018
  37. GC_Konstantin

    GC_Konstantin Experienced Member webmeister

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    I'd say you're certainly not dreaming and it is not at all unlikely to wake up one morning and see a high variance 100% RTP non progressive slot game advertised as such ! Out there are a few no zero roulette games with 100% RTP, right ?
     
  38. Mar 7, 2018
  39. SlotGrinder

    SlotGrinder Senior Member

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    I guess you can make a slot with 100% rtp which pays 10000000000000000000x stake but there's only a 1 in 100000000000000000000 chance of hitting it and the rest are dead spins . Fk it lets make it 200%rtp and pay 200000000000000000000x stake when you hit since it never will :p
     

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