What is gambling doing to you?

[AndersB]

We believe pain is the cause of addiction. Gambling, alcohol, and drugs are just ways to escape the pain. It’s the escape we get addicted to. How does it feel when you hear that? Can you relate?

We use the word pain as a collective for every feeling or experience we don’t want to have. It could be loneliness, stress, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, or boredom.

Here is a video that you might find useful:


We’ve also developed a test to help people understand what causes them pain. We call it the Happiness Test. The Happiness Test doesn’t tell you if you’re addicted to gambling, however, it’s estimated the risk you’ll be addicted or become addicted to anything based on the amount of pain you experience. You find the test here: *snip*

Do you use gambling to escape from something?

Anders
QuitGamble.com

 

[AndersB]

If you want to stop gambling, you’ll need to deal with “inner triggers”, and “outer triggers”. Your inner triggers can be thoughts, feelings, and mode. There are ways to deal with them, but in this thread, we’ll discuss outer triggers like TV commercials, texts, and emails.

• As a gambler, your email inbox probably full of casino-related emails. (I know mine is) The only fix to that is to switch your email. The risk that your email address has been sold by a casino, (or a competition you entered) some third party is unfortunately high. Luckily it only takes a few minutes to set up a new email address.
• Someone, we sign up for free offers. “Get 30 free spins when you sign up”, you might not pay any money for it, but your mobile number and email address are the prices you pay. If you’ve ever given away your mobile number online, you better switch that too.
• Try to limit your exposure to gambling-related TV commercials. Choose commercial-free streaming options whenever possible.
• In some countries, it’s possible to self-exclude from all licensed casinos. We recommend you Google self-exclusion and where you live, perhaps there is a way to self-exclude for you.
• Our bonus tip is Gamban. If you install Gamban or Betfilter on your phone or desktop, you’ll not be able to enter any gambling-related sites online. It’ll not remove any triggers, but it’s a tool that can block you from acting on the urge to gamble.

Do you know any other ways to remove triggers? Let’s get them out there!

//Anders
QuitGamble.com

 

[AndersB]

What is gambling doing to you? What Happens when you gamble? Does it create a moment of peace, a period when nothing else matters? Perhaps the answers to these questions explain why it’s so hard to quit.

We believe there is an upside to addiction. We believe addiction is a defense mechanism against pain. Our definition of gambling addiction is: If a person who experiences pain gets an urge to gamble, then he/she is a gambling addict.

What is gambling doing for you?

Anders
QuitGamble.com

 

[maxd]

Hello, it appeared to me that these were all basically the same topic so I merged them. In future please use a single thread.

Posting many threads on the same topic is called "wallpapering" and it's generally frowned on by most forum managers. Apologies for any inconvenience.

 

[AndersB]

Hello, it appeared to me that these were all basically the same topic so I merged them. In future please use a single thread.

Posting many threads on the same topic is called "wallpapering" and it's generally frowned on by most forum managers. Apologies for any inconvenience.

I understand. For me who is working with problem gambling, those are different topics, and they are meant to help people. Triggers are one thing, and understanding what gambling is doing for you is another.

 

[maxd]

If the responses here are lopsided towards one topic or another let me know and I can split them off again. Let's see how it goes.

- Max

 

[Slotplayer83]

As a advice on the email; if you happen to run your own mailserver, which more and more users do, it's pretty much easy to block anything related to "casino" coming in. If you dont have your own email server and u use a public service such as gmail or whatever, most send (bulk) emails have to attend to the ubsubscribe button. Click it > and unsubscribe yourself off from it.

 

[dunover]

What is gambling doing to you? What Happens when you gamble? Does it create a moment of peace, a period when nothing else matters? Perhaps the answers to these questions explain why it’s so hard to quit.

We believe there is an upside to addiction. We believe addiction is a defense mechanism against pain. Our definition of gambling addiction is: If a person who experiences pain gets an urge to gamble, then he/she is a gambling addict.

What is gambling doing for you?

Anders

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

Your wording does imply that this 'service' will be introducing a fee at a later date:
"All members that sign up during the beta version will enjoy the full version of QuitGamble.com for free too."

So far it seems the thread is copied & pasted excerpts from your site with the intent of creating traffic and back links, as there seems to be little interaction since the posts were made.

Could you let us know if you do intend to monetize this, as the site infers you are?

Thanks.

 

[Tirilej]

Your wording does imply that this 'service' will be introducing a fee at a later date:
"All members that sign up during the beta version will enjoy the full version of QuitGamble.com for free too."

So far it seems the thread is copied & pasted excerpts from your site with the intent of creating traffic and back links, as there seems to be little interaction since the posts were made.

Could you let us know if you do intend to monetize this, as the site infers you are?

Thanks.

It's pretty clear he doesn't ask questions in here because he is interested in discussing or learning.
He is simply posting a video and his links to earn money. Even though I believe there is not enough help out there, I can't see that the people behind this are to be taken serious.

 

[AndersB]

Hey Guys! I've spent the last 2.5 years working full-time trying to develop a tool to help people with gambling problems. Some day in the future we hope to be able to charge a subscription for our service. But our focus right now is to create something that really works. If you want to critize that effort, you're of course welcome to do that. If you think that the posts don't add any value to a forum like this, then I'm sorry. That's my way of offering advice and referring to resources for people who have gambling problems.

 

[AndersB]

Your wording does imply that this 'service' will be introducing a fee at a later date:
"All members that sign up during the beta version will enjoy the full version of QuitGamble.com for free too."

So far it seems the thread is copied & pasted excerpts from your site with the intent of creating traffic and back links, as there seems to be little interaction since the posts were made.

Could you let us know if you do intend to monetize this, as the site infers you are?

Thanks.

Hey Dunover!
Let's begin with the monetizing of QG. Our goal is to create a tool that really helps and supports people with gambling problems. Money is not a priority now. One day, I hope the platform is good enough to be self-sustainable, and we can charge a subscription for the users. There are probably millions of better ways to make money in the world, so if my intent was to do that, then I'd spend my time on doing something else.

When it comes to your second concern, regarding "creating traffic and backlinks". The thread about gambling problems is not indexed in google. You need to be login to see it, so a backlink is not worth anything. Regarding driving traffic, if somebody finds the information useful, it means that they probably have some problem with their gambling. Then I see it as a good thing if they visit our platform, hopefully, that can help them stay out of harm.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

 

[AndersB]

As a advice on the email; if you happen to run your own mailserver, which more and more users do, it's pretty much easy to block anything related to "casino" coming in. If you dont have your own email server and u use a public service such as gmail or whatever, most send (bulk) emails have to attend to the ubsubscribe button. Click it > and unsubscribe yourself off from it.

Interesting, I haven't heard about private email servers before. I mainly use google myself. I'll take the with me.

 

[YixingLao]

Wow, thank you for that video! It’s really true that no matter how I or others say that gambling or <snip> is for fun, there are a few people out there who deem it differently, like coping with their depression. Now, I understand better. What works well for me might be a challenge to others.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Even if OP is using CM as a platform to get business, the video is worth a watch.

The forum can always give them a push away if needed but the video is decent and highlights the link between depression and addiction.

 

[Casinomeister]

Interesting, I haven't heard about private email servers before. I mainly use google myself. I'll take the with me.

Funny how things have changed since the late 90s early 2000s. If you tried signing up in the forum with a "free" email service like hotmail or yahoo), you were blocked since this is what spammers used. You had to have your own private email address.

Then the younger generation came in thinking that if it's for free it must be great - and gmail became the rage. I even have sales people contact me with gmail addys - I just delete the emails because that's the first sign of amateurism. Just sayin'.

 

[lord flashheart]

As a advice on the email; if you happen to run your own mailserver, which more and more users do, it's pretty much easy to block anything related to "casino" coming in. If you dont have your own email server and u use a public service such as gmail or whatever, most send (bulk) emails have to attend to the ubsubscribe button. Click it > and unsubscribe yourself off from it.

Unsubscribe buttons don't mean anything to spammers - if anything, it makes things worse as they know the email address is active. You should never click unsubscribe on unsolicited emails as 90% of the time it just leads to more spam

 

[Bunbu]

First, it's cosmic nonsense to claim that gang's heroin and medical produced morphine are the same thing.

To say that heroin addiction is not just a hemical reaction on the human body is enormous-stupid, you first need a basic chemistry/biology education to learn the differences for example between: heroin, morphine, metaphamines and cocaine on other side.

Yes, when junkies first start using heroin, it is to escape reality or simply just it's youth rebellion - those "cages" are the trigger...but after that, it is pure hemical addiction of the body to the substance called heroin.

Cocaine, on the other hand, is much more similar to gambling in that it is a pure mental addiction. That is one of the reasons why it is much, much more expensive than methaphamine, heroin, or almost any other drug. There is almost no hemical/biological addiction as there is with other illegal drugs, its pure mind addiction.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I agree the video doesn't focus on the obvious physical addictions of drugs such as heroin, although in the main, I agree with the psychological aspect of the cage.

The video explains it very well and the 'cage' can be as simple as the usual daily routine or the circle of a habit born from depression, low feelings, a desire for a rush or 'fill the blank'.

I've heard similar about the US soldiers returning from Vietnam but couldn't validate either way. I have read a little about addiction and realise there are two forms - physiological and psychological, often a combination of the two to some degree.

Yes, heroin carries a physiological addiction, evident when somebody goes cold turkey, could the same be said about slots or gambling?

Also, everyone is unique. I smoke but can easily go for several hours free, without feeling any physical need. Others feel a physiological need the minute they wake. Mine is more of a psychological addiction, I light up to take a breather from work and such, instead of grabbing some fruit like I should.

I could be wrong and don't profess to know much about addiction but I guess for gamblers it's about the cage isn't it? Do gamblers go cold turkey or do they get depressed without a fix? It's more the latter so it's a psychological addiction.

As for treating it, I am not fully convinced putting systems in place to block triggers is the most effective solution. I think building a better cage or replacing harmful addictions with beneficial ones is the best way to help.

 

[AndersB]

I agree the video doesn't focus on the obvious physical addictions of drugs such as heroin, although in the main, I agree with the psychological aspect of the cage.

The video explains it very well and the 'cage' can be as simple as the usual daily routine or the circle of a habit born from depression, low feelings, a desire for a rush or 'fill the blank'.

I've heard similar about the US soldiers returning from Vietnam but couldn't validate either way. I have read a little about addiction and realise there are two forms - physiological and psychological, often a combination of the two to some degree.

Yes, heroin carries a physiological addiction, evident when somebody goes cold turkey, could the same be said about slots or gambling?

Also, everyone is unique. I smoke but can easily go for several hours free, without feeling any physical need. Others feel a physiological need the minute they wake. Mine is more of a psychological addiction, I light up to take a breather from work and such, instead of grabbing some fruit like I should.

I could be wrong and don't profess to know much about addiction but I guess for gamblers it's about the cage isn't it? Do gamblers go cold turkey or do they get depressed without a fix? It's more the latter so it's a psychological addiction.

As for treating it, I am not fully convinced putting systems in place to block triggers is the most effective solution. I think building a better cage or replacing harmful addictions with beneficial ones is the best way to help.

I believe some people can go "cold turkey" and just stop gambling from one day to another. It's hard though, especially if it's used as an escape from something. You could describe it as trying to run away from someone with a GPS tracker on you. You can run, and as long as you're running the other person will not find you. But as soon as you stop, the GPS will tell the person where you are. The only way to get away for real, is to run until the battery in the GPS are depleted. It's the same when trying to stop an addiction. Some people can run, run, and run. But most of us are caught and pushed back in to it.