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lots0

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Putting Neteller in the Rouge Pit?

I know Neteller is not a Casino, but if any casino acted like Neteller has with peoples money in the past several months I have no doubt that the casino in question would have been thrown into the Rouge Pit without a second thought.
 

Simmo!

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My own opinion is that the Neteller debacle is somewhat different in that, being under investigation, they very much have their hands tied as to what they can and can't do. Each decision they take now regards the US issue will be very much controlled by lawyers and while it is clearly a major issue for players, the fact is they are in a very different position to anyone else. For quite some time, there was even a question mark as to whether US funds would be confiscated by the investigative authorities and they were certainly frozen.

If you look at BetOnSports, you have a similar scenario and they have effectively closed down operations there entirely, but through circumstances outside their control, although the "fraud" element in the case differs to Neteller. I honestly don't think Neteller have any choice in how they get through this, although one does feel that communication with the public could have been better. That said, again, we don't know fully what the legal situation was.
 

tim5ny

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Could you also put McDonald's in the rogue pit Bryan? First bite from my burger yesterday netted a long strand of hair. So grossed out that I threw the whole bag of food out. I want my deposit back! Please rogue them! :mad:
 

lots0

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I think the fact that Neteller froze Americans funds weeks BEFORE any legal action or the threat of legal action was taken against Neteller by the DoJ kind of dismisses your argument Simmo.

I don't see any difference between getting ripped off by a casino or getting ripped off by an ewallet, but I guess that is just me.

Obviously, my argument is not going anywhere, since CM decided not to comment on this and then getting the smart ass reply from tim5ny.

Just for the record... When the folks in Europe get screwed by Neteller (and some already have) I won't reply with smart ass comments... I understand how it feels to get ripped off for a lot of money and I would not want to make it worse for those that are already upset.
 

tim5ny

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Obviously, my argument is not going anywhere, since CM decided not to comment on this and then getting the smart ass reply from tim5ny.

Just for the record... When the folks in Europe get screwed by Neteller (and some already have) I won't reply with smart ass comments... I understand how it feels to get ripped off for a lot of money and I would not want to make it worse for those that are already upset.


Sorry you took it that way but I am genuinely pissed off at McDonald's right now. I may very well have more money tied up in them than you have with Neteller, so to assume my matter is less important is simply your opinion.. which you are completely entitled to. The next time you get a bag of cold fries then you might see things from a better perspective!
 

SKUNX

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would like to have my exwife put in the rouge section of this website since I feel she has all my monies and I have no way of reaching them
Thanks Bryan

can i pitch a BITCH?
:xxx

Thanks in advance

PS. Please try and get my CD collection back Ill let you keep the Ramones :thumbsup::
 

dominique

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I think the DOJ has seized the neteller money just like they seized the money from other wallets.

Until I know for sure that's not the case, I won't blame Neteller.
 

lots0

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Neteller froze all the US money Before the arrests became public...

I know I was trying to withdraw funds on January 16th 2007 at 10:49, the transaction was frozen.

Bloomburg did not report the arrests until, January 16, 2007 11:57

The subpoenas were not issued by the DoJ until Janruary 21st.


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If you look in this forum back to January 2007, you'll even see a post by me where I talk about how Neteller lied to me about the frozen transaction. At first they told me the payment went out and I should have gotten it already... Then they tell me (after the 21st) that the funds were never paid out and the transaction had been frozen by the US government.

I should also like to point out my funds were/are not gambling funds, my funds were payment for services received.
 

tennis_balls

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First bite from my burger yesterday netted a long strand of hair.

pardon the interruption but curiosity has gotten the best of me.

just how long was said strand of hair? was it a straight hair or somewhat curly in nature? blonde?

did you happen to notice if any babes were working back in the kitchen area at the time?
 

tim5ny

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pardon the interruption but curiosity has gotten the best of me.

just how long was said strand of hair? was it a straight hair or somewhat curly in nature? blonde?

did you happen to notice if any babes were working back in the kitchen area at the time?

It was not too long because it was a guy's hair. I saw him making my sandwich... and it looked straight to me as I was pulling it out of my mouth. :mad: A bit like the hair on your avatar... or kinda like your mother's moustache. I don't know? You like hair?? I don't get turned on by it the same way you do but I do think it makes some people look better. You know what I mean.. the guys that shave their head and have no business doing so because their head looks like a penis. I hope that doesn't spark your curiosity also! Maybe I shouldn't have said penis.
Anyway, let's get back to the topic at hand which is to help Lotso get Neteller into the rogue pit! Lotso's post just reminded me that I have some delicious sour grapes in the fridge. I'll be checking for hairs first this time. Later Wolfman!
 

dominique

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I should also like to point out my funds were/are not gambling funds, my funds were payment for services received.

Yep, me too. Plus a bunch of peer to peer to people who did things for me were frozen in mid air. I had to make up for that so they could pay their rent. I am out of a bunch of money.

I am still convinced the DOJ is to blame.
 

Casinomeister

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I guess CasinoMeisters response is "No comment"
How about "no comment because I didn't see the thread until today - Monday, which is a holiday by the way." :D

If I'm going to rogue Neteller, I might as well rogue the DOJ, and the President of the United States, and all the US politicians who screwed up the US gaming industry. There are a myriad of elements that screwed Neteller that all share the blame. To single out Neteller wouldn't really be fair in my opinion. And what would be the purpose in doing so?
 

lots0

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I might as well rogue the DOJ, and the President of the United States, and all the US politicians who screwed up the US gaming industry.
I think there is an argument for doing just that. :D

Seriously though, I would agree with you, were it not for the the way Neteller acted in the first days after the arrests.

Neteller froze accounts before they were served any legal papers (that may or may not have been legally binding on them), days before. They also lied to me about my money (and I know I am not the only one they lied too) and that alone, in my opinion, makes them Rouge material.

But hey it's your Rogue Pit and I was just asking what you thought about it. Know I know. Thanks.
 
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