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What If?.....

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by funeral979, May 1, 2010.

    May 1, 2010
  1. funeral979

    funeral979 Senior Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    retail
    Location:
    Texas
    Had an interesting situation occur last week and wondered if anyone had anything siimilar happen.

    I got a free $20 chip from a reputable RTG casino (I had deposited previously) that came with 20x wagering and $100 max cashout. I was about a third of the way thru the wagering when my balance dipped below $1. As usually happens with RTG (maybe ALL RTGs, not sure) the balance moved to all withdrawable. Well I was betting 25 cents on TRex and hit the feaure with 40 cents left. It brought me up to $20....and got as high as $30 before eventually busting.

    I wondered what would have happened if I won a random jackpot? Would I have still been held to the bonus terms? Technically I was still playing on the free chip....or is it considered my own cash now when its below $1?

    Just curious if anyone had this happen to them and were they able to withdraw over and above the terms?
     
  2. May 1, 2010
  3. AuntieIdiot

    AuntieIdiot Meister Member

    Occupation:
    head chef and chief bottle washer
    Location:
    land of forbidden gambling
    I have often wondered the same thing. Not just if a random was hit either. What if you just got a good win on bonus spins or something? You know that you haven't made playthrough requirements, but your playthrough shows 0. Can you cash out immediately or do you need to contact support and find out what is left for playthrough? Is the bonus still in effect? Or is it cleared once the counter says 0? Are you still tied to the restricted games of the bonus or can you play all games? Hopefully a rep from one of the RTG casinos will drop in and ease our inquiring minds.
     
  4. May 1, 2010
  5. takethemoney

    takethemoney Banned User - Chargebacks at Slotastic

    Location:
    Washington
    I've wondered this as well. If I ever play another RTG on a free chip I'm gonna ask support this question before I play. I imagine they just keep the jackpot and deny your win under the T&C of the chip you took???
     
  6. May 1, 2010
  7. stevohhh

    stevohhh Full Member

    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Location:
    dallas,tx
    I had this happen to me a few times..well quite often heh I "vegasbum" it and play usually 1-2 lines. I cashed out from one of the clubworlds loyalty freechip slightly over max, but when it was credited for me i had like a 31 cent balance or so left...not sure if that has anything to do with it.

    I remember on that last spin that saved me lol..was over my 31 cents, but the wagering had disappeared already.

    ..on a sidenote, some rtgs keep wagering on the very last cent haha not trying to abuse the system of course
     
  8. May 1, 2010
  9. ksech

    ksech Dormant account

    Occupation:
    yes
    Location:
    Here
    Since you have a max cashout of $100, you would lose the remainder of the jackpot. I could be wrong about this though, maybe one of the more experienced posters will know for sure.
     
  10. May 1, 2010
  11. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    cyberspace
    I doubt you keep the jackpot

    Had a free bonus once with max cashin of $150.00 was playing london inspector and hit bonus round and it just kept going. I exited the game when it was alittle over 150.00. I withdrew the $150.00.

    The next time I deposited I played my usual games and low and behold when London Inspector opened the free spins continued for a long time and ended up with $500.00 dollars.
    I played other games and cashed out.
    happened once at microgaming but with no bonus. I must have been disconnected suddenly and didn't know I had hit the bonus round until the next time I played there and when game opened I had free spins! It was a nice surprise!
     
  12. May 1, 2010
  13. nisosbar

    nisosbar Ueber Meister PABnonaccred

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    Location:
    Right here
    I believe that Rival holds your entire balance to the max cashout terms until after they've processed your withdrawal, because I faced this situation before and their support indicated that I could continue playing with my balance, but could not cash out anything above the max cashout as outlined in the terms of the bonus I'd taken.
     
  14. May 1, 2010
  15. funeral979

    funeral979 Senior Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    retail
    Location:
    Texas
    Yes, but when your balance drops below $1, no matter how much wagering you have left, your balance is moved to withdrawable. And if you are able to get back to any amount over $1, it stays withdrawable.

    The questions is, are you no longer tied to the bonus when your balance goes below $1?
     
  16. May 1, 2010
  17. Brooklyn

    Brooklyn Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Mommy, Make-up Artist, Writer.
    Location:
    On the Hot Mess Express
    I believe you are still tied to the original terms and conditions, when they remove the bonus money, you are left with the withdrawable amount.

    Say you were playing a bonus that had a $150 max cashout, and you made playthrough and they removed everything but $150. You continued playing and got it up to $300 and you request a cashout, they will deduct the $150 that you are entitled to and take the remaining $150 away. Thats at least my experience.

    Hope it helped :p
     
  18. May 1, 2010
  19. funeral979

    funeral979 Senior Member PABaccred

    Occupation:
    retail
    Location:
    Texas
    But in this situation you haven't made playthru, but your balance is moved to withdrawable.

    Lets say you get a $13 free bonus with 20x wagering and 5x max cashout. You do one spin on Fruit Frenzy at $12.50 and win nothing. You have 50 cents left and now your balance is withdrawable. So you go to Jacks or Better 10 hand, 1 cent demonination and bet the 50 cents, hit 10 royal flushes for $400 payout. Can you withdraw the whole $400? If not, why?
     
  20. May 1, 2010
  21. Brooklyn

    Brooklyn Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Mommy, Make-up Artist, Writer.
    Location:
    On the Hot Mess Express
    OK, now I see what you mean, and honestly I dont know. I have had that happen to me as well, Im curious to find out the answer too.
     
  22. May 1, 2010
  23. AuntieIdiot

    AuntieIdiot Meister Member

    Occupation:
    head chef and chief bottle washer
    Location:
    land of forbidden gambling
    What if you are playing with a deposit bonus without a max cashout? Your balance drops below $1 and your balance becomes withdrawable and the playthrough counter says 0--you then hit a nice win and want to cash out. Are you still tied to the playthrough requirements?
     
  24. May 1, 2010
  25. all4greed

    all4greed Now we can do business.

    Occupation:
    Misc.
    Location:
    Pacific NW
    Good question so I contacted INetBet:

    Re: Wagering Question
    Sent By:
    "Support" <support@inetbet.com> On: May 05/01/10 11:32 AM
    To: This email is not visible to you.


    Dear xxx
    If you hit a random with the last dollar of a free chip, irregardless of the wagering being met, then the 10 times max cash out still stands.
    Thats is why we are careful not to add them whena player has unresticted funds in their account.
    Kind regards
    CSR James


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: This email is not visible to you.
    To: This email is not visible to you.
    Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:09 PM
    Subject: Wagering Question

    Hi,

    I know this question is a bit off the wall but here goes. Let's say I am playing on a free chip and my goes to less than $1 and the cashier shows no more wagering requirements. For whatever reason, that change is left in my account and I go back at a later time and play on the remaining amount and hit a random jackpot. Am I still bound to the original terms of the free chip or, since wagering has been removed, would the random jackpot be mine to keep in full?

    Sometimes weird things can happen. But I am curious of how something like that would work.
     
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  26. May 3, 2010
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Yes, Rival casinos do this now. About a year ago I think it was, they used to say once your balance drops below $1 all bonus restrictions are lifted - WR and max cash-out gone.
    But then they changed it to $0, citing "bonus abuse".

    Very petty IMO - who in their right mind you take a bonus and deliberately play down to 99c before going for a big hit! :eek2:

    KK
     
  28. May 3, 2010
  29. maphesto

    maphesto Dormant account

    Location:
    Sweden
    When you have placed your bet/clicked on spin your balance can be below 30c and the outcome of your bet/spin can be a huge win.

    With a 15$ free chip you could play it down to exactly 14.29c and then play Scary Rich at least 7 times with a 2$ betsize..:D

    When we recently have seen screenshots from 0.20 bet which have been over 300$ at Rival I can understand them.
     

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