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what determines who wins and who looses

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by mrshyguy, Dec 11, 2016.

    Dec 11, 2016
  1. mrshyguy

    mrshyguy Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    logistics
    Location:
    london
    new theory here or more like tin foil hat so here it is.......

    i truly beleave that the choice of winning on slot deposits is not so much what you decide to play, more of when you log on to play.

    for me ive made many depos of various amounts and it only goes two ways.....either very well with feature after feature and a withdrawal request or totally dead with not a sniff of a win in site.
    for me i think that its when you log on to your casino of choice that the decision to win or loose is made at that point.

    no matter what you play if your log-in luck isnt there then no matter how many deposits you make it just goes dead with no chance of a wdw.

    on the extremely rare occasion ive made minmimal depos such as a tenner or even a fiver, ive made wdws on such small amounts well over hundreds of pounds.

    so to sum it up if there are hundreds of players logging in to their casino only a very small percentage will be selected to have a win that day and that is decided at the point of logging on not what you choose to play.

    this is just theory for me or do you think differently....:D
     
  2. Dec 11, 2016
  3. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    Well some of us have had similar tinfoiling but unless you can attribute it to a certain time where these sessions appear it is all but conjecture.

    Surely if your best session occurs within a certain timeframe you'd log on only at that specific time?

    Over prolonged play it is only natural to have varying results, they only appear to us in dramatic fashion. It's only law of averages.

    Or is it :cool:
     
  4. Dec 11, 2016
  5. MissRuthless

    MissRuthless Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Over Worked Under Paid
    Location:
    Australia
    It's all about the apple pie - but I prefer cherry pies YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    Only thing i can say is, if it were True then it is applying to me for past 3 weeks, same time logins and dead spins near no free spins and sucked flat in minutes lol

    However I have noidea what determines a Win or a Lose, Loss.
    Other then those invisible, very rare and illusive RNG Gods.......... /shrug!
     
  6. Dec 11, 2016
  7. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Agree with this part. :thumbsup:
     
  8. Dec 11, 2016
  9. Jd666

    Jd666 RiffRaff CAG mm4

    Occupation:
    Maggot Farmer
    Location:
    Republic Of West Yorkshire
    They say its when you press the spin button.

    I think (with my silver hat on) that its when you load the slot up.

    And if its doing well, then it will kick you off, then when you load it back up it will rob ya blind.
     
  10. Dec 11, 2016
  11. mrshyguy

    mrshyguy Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    logistics
    Location:
    london
    sorry goatwack i missed that bit out......best time for me is 4.30am when im on the early shift so im up by 4.00am have a cuppa and put the lappy on for half an hour or so for a bit of slotting and........hey presto many wins of fortune behold me....:thumbsup: well nearly everytime but the early hours of slot hunting are better for me then say a sturday afternoon when i dont even get a sniff.:mad:

    maybe i should keep a record of the times....:rolleyes:
     
  12. Dec 11, 2016
  13. Jd666

    Jd666 RiffRaff CAG mm4

    Occupation:
    Maggot Farmer
    Location:
    Republic Of West Yorkshire
    I always play in the morning as I am up early.
    Only slotting I really do after dinner and into the evening is the Videoslots battles.
     
  14. Dec 11, 2016
  15. mrshyguy

    mrshyguy Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    logistics
    Location:
    london
    its funny that during say normal hours of living that slotting for me amounts to jack diddley squat as far as wdws are concerned but out of hours slotting has proved by far more successful for me:thumbsup:
     
  16. Dec 11, 2016
  17. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    Upon recollection, most of my good sessions have started late afternoon/ early evening and peaked in the early morning hours.

    Less so the other way round, perhaps it's to do with the larger number of players partaking at the same time, and the 'prize pool' being larger.

    But as mentioned prior, I agree that a slot can play extremely well for a duration, only to crash and act completely different upon reboot.

    This further lends to the theory that these games run off different servers, I cannot see one supporting such a large player base.

    Within so many concurrent servers, discrepancies will appear, hence the polarized sessions.

    Or maybe there's just one 'good' server that bestows the players with sheer wins. I want that one :p
     
  18. Dec 11, 2016
  19. Pulver

    Pulver Senior Member PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Tellus
    Why would they do it that way?

    The casinos has on average a 4% edge on every spin you play on a slot machine, so there is no need for all that mumbo jumbo.
     
  20. Dec 11, 2016
  21. michielm1

    michielm1 Senior Member mm1

    Occupation:
    teamleader/techical operator
    Location:
    Nederland
    You facebook status and twitter followers combined with the pressure per square inch on the left mouse button, and this will be combined with the result of the variation in clicking speed.
     
  22. Dec 11, 2016
  23. PatrickNess

    PatrickNess Full Member

    Occupation:
    nope nope
    Location:
    na na na
    On bitcoin dice games (and other roulette variations), the "lucky number" is computed by publicly available algorithm and methods.

    Since not all parameters are known to the player before he rolls the dice (unless he gets his hand on so-called secret keys), the outcome is still random (a.k.a. unpredictable).
    In particular, the roll does not depend on time of the day, trend on casino bankroll or the bet size. But the most important point is : the player can check if he is cheated or not.

    Q: What determines who wins and who looses ?
    A: it's a set of fixed parameters (+plus one predictably changing parameter) which, after the play, the player can use to verify if the win or loss was fair (aka not controlled by the casino owner or someone else).





    For absolutely ALL the classic internet casinos we are referring to here (MG, NetEnt slots etc) and to some extend land based casinos, the method is totally unknown to the player. He's trusting third parties : the casinos themselves, the game designers, the licensing authorities, the auditing companies etc that there is a random number generator, that it's used to display some symbols on each reels, that the reels are real reels (not changing over time/bet size etc). Basically, the player is trusting the people he's giving his money to.

    So...
    Q: What determines who wins and who looses ?
    A: A bunch of things (and maybe people) unknown to the player. Before and after the spin.




    But maybe someone can come up with the source code of, say, Immortal Romance, and tell me how the result of a single spin at any casino is computed ?
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2016
  24. Dec 11, 2016
  25. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

    Occupation:
    Freelancer
    Location:
    Ottawa, Ontario
    The Random Number Generator decides everything, not time of day, logins or rubbing the screen. When you press the button or spin, your results are shown. That's it. It's been like this for decades. You have to hope you're lucky.
     
  26. Dec 12, 2016
  27. PatrickNess

    PatrickNess Full Member

    Occupation:
    nope nope
    Location:
    na na na
    It is only said that the RNG decides everything (...).
     
  28. Dec 12, 2016
  29. quber

    quber Senior Member

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    spy
    Location:
    Europe
    It is known to the Ancients
     
  30. Dec 12, 2016
  31. dbl88

    dbl88 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Tech support
    Location:
    Sweden
    Myself i thinkwhen you enter the game its already determined if u win /lose get feature when and how much ull gain..

    If you restart the game totally different story..

    Also this is my mindset and theory as if my mind would work correctly i wouldnt be stupid enough to play slots where you will lose in the long run, without a 1 /30000000040040400 chance of a jackpot anyway
    =)
     
  32. Dec 12, 2016
  33. PatrickNess

    PatrickNess Full Member

    Occupation:
    nope nope
    Location:
    na na na
    :lolup::lolup::lolup:
     

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