Your Input Please What a Pant's year this has been

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When i used to back the horses on a regular basis i used to keep a record of all my bets so could keep track. Sadly i meant to do something of sorts with my casino play but did not.
Anyway after a real bad run i decided to find out how much i have actually lost this year playing only slots.
My bets would be like 40c on Rhino,45c on Doa,40 c on any other Net Ent and 30c generally on the 243 lines MG slots, so yes i am no heavy hitter.
Anyway up to today i am down 11295 Euro.Yep over a grand a month so far this year.
This is when i can thank myself being a low roller because if i wasnt i probably would be 6 feet under.
Just wondering if there is many out there having any luck this year.
 
I will say after a dismal 2015 (50k down) I have had a major 2016, 51k up.....so I guess the grand difference is kinda like a new slot.....Big Win.....Super Win......MEGA WIN........
 
Well, my attitude has changed over the last year. Have had an account at Vera & John for 15 months now and have never managed a withdrawal until today! Nowhere near how much I have deposited there and the withdrawal was just a modest 2 and a half times my deposit amount - but had to do it to prove a point that I can withdraw there!

Good months and bad months overall for me. Whenever I have a nice withdrawal at one casino, it seems to get quickly lost at another!

Deposit amounts have seriously been reduced compared to previous years, so more than happy for any withdrawal and bit of play time.
 
Likewise, I am a medium size better, generally no more than about £3-4 a spin but can go up to £10+, down over £20k of actual money. Had some months where I withdrew £10k but that went back in a short time so I wont even include that, last year I was down a similar amount aswell. I have bought plenty though and when I get some nice wins I do treat myself so its not terrible but I could have done that with my own money anyway and not been in the hole.

Sad thing is, every deposit I make I almost always double or triple it, so if I was genuinely sensible I could actually do well, its just doubling your bankroll is for gamblers a cue to raise. If I can get a genuinely big hit in the next few months I will quit, until then I am sure I will keep throwing my cash in, did withdraw £1500 just then from a small deposit so I need a new ethos to my gambling and try to cover my losses atleast which I normally get the chance to. Gutted just then though, Kings of Chicago, natural royal flash almost perfectly lined up in the feature waiting for a queen to drop in...she drops in and its the wrong fucking suit, at £4 a stake would have been £16,000 :mad:

Gamblers though, any of us who really gamble heavily are generally deep down, every streamer I watch usually ends a session by blowing a grand..several times a week. I guess we can quit or keep waiting for a big win, as long as your not putting your life at risk from heavily gambling then just keep your head up, im lucky, im in my 20's and dont own a home or have kids so if it goes tits up for me, im still in the same place haha.
 
I do keep records but still not doing better on the slots.

Losses for 2016 until end of August. First number is Total Deposits, second is Total Withdrawals. The percentage is the comparison to last year for the same period, meaning i do somewhat better this year as the losses up to August are just 41% of what they were in 2015 ..... not really a thing to jump for joy :rolleyes:

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Im glad im only a low roller.
Without blowing my own trumpet, I have never been in the red in any year since i started.
Only being a low roller, Im not going to be able to live the life of luxury though lol, but also means i dont lose as much.
About 2 grand up this year, looking at my Skrill withdrawals to my bank.
My Visa card payments are more or less even
 
thanks to some nice hits on DOA of 5 scatters and a double wildline that paid $5000.00 a $2.50 bet on RTG that won me $5000 and a few $5 bets thaat won me $1000-$2000..I am up about $12,000 this year.

i dont usually bet that big but ive had some nice wins and ive always wanted to test slot software out big betting vs small. So once I cashout the $12k I have online. Ill be back to betting .75-$1 per spin.
 
In the same boat, Probably not near your loss's, I am a small roller, So I do take out some of the time, Just recently them withdraws have been harder to come by, For instance £48 deposits yesterday,

DrVegas £18 100% bonus 40x wager on bonus, withdraw if not touched bonus
slotcrazy £10 250% bonus 30x D&B withdraw if not touched bonus, wager only counts when hit the bonus
skyvegas £10 100% bonus 10x D@B
Allbritsh £10 straight cash good run on thunderstruck

Busted out on all, I do not keep track of what goes in and out, I used to do a quick draft each month but that did not last for long, I have got a depo and cash folder in my email account add just add them there, But not looked,Just for a reference,

I will add some screen shots, as you can see what I could fit in a screen, my depo only goes to the 11/10 and cash all the way to 26/8,

Take note that I also do deposits by bank, 3 of deposits today was by bank and only got reipt of allbritsh ]

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cash1.PNG
 
Likewise, I am a medium size better, generally no more than about £3-4 a spin but can go up to £10+, down over £20k of actual money. Had some months where I withdrew £10k but that went back in a short time so I wont even include that, last year I was down a similar amount aswell. I have bought plenty though and when I get some nice wins I do treat myself so its not terrible but I could have done that with my own money anyway and not been in the hole.

Sad thing is, every deposit I make I almost always double or triple it, so if I was genuinely sensible I could actually do well, its just doubling your bankroll is for gamblers a cue to raise. If I can get a genuinely big hit in the next few months I will quit, until then I am sure I will keep throwing my cash in, did withdraw £1500 just then from a small deposit so I need a new ethos to my gambling and try to cover my losses atleast which I normally get the chance to. Gutted just then though, Kings of Chicago, natural royal flash almost perfectly lined up in the feature waiting for a queen to drop in...she drops in and its the wrong fucking suit, at £4 a stake would have been £16,000 :mad:

Gamblers though, any of us who really gamble heavily are generally deep down, every streamer I watch usually ends a session by blowing a grand..several times a week. I guess we can quit or keep waiting for a big win, as long as your not putting your life at risk from heavily gambling then just keep your head up, im lucky, im in my 20's and dont own a home or have kids so if it goes tits up for me, im still in the same place haha.

What concerns me is the notion that 20 somethings could be spoiling their chances of getting that partner,getting that house or getting that promotion due to blowing their money gambling. I wasted too much when young by blowing my money gambling. It left me too skint to afford dating or even to be in a financial position to take a lass out. Even if I had saved a quarter of my earnings I could have had a mortgage by the time I was 25.

I am not pointing my finger at you specifically Spopple,but I hate to see young adults waste their chances the same way that I did :thumbsup:
 
When i used to back the horses on a regular basis i used to keep a record of all my bets so could keep track. Sadly i meant to do something of sorts with my casino play but did not.
Anyway after a real bad run i decided to find out how much i have actually lost this year playing only slots.
My bets would be like 40c on Rhino,45c on Doa,40 c on any other Net Ent and 30c generally on the 243 lines MG slots, so yes i am no heavy hitter.
Anyway up to today i am down 11295 Euro.Yep over a grand a month so far this year.
This is when i can thank myself being a low roller because if i wasnt i probably would be 6 feet under.
Just wondering if there is many out there having any luck this year.
Sorry, but I have to say this again...
Without knowing what your withdrawal target is and whether you stick to it, then it's hard to judge whether you have just been unlucky, of if you have made bad choices about withdrawing.
We all know that if you keep playing a slot (or any other casino game) you WILL lose in the end - the house edge guarantees that.

What I'm saying is, you could very well be getting the expected TRTP of the slots you play (96%-ish), but of course, that means you will lose in the long run.


Well, my attitude has changed over the last year. Have had an account at Vera & John for 15 months now and have never managed a withdrawal until today! Nowhere near how much I have deposited there and the withdrawal was just a modest 2 and a half times my deposit amount - but had to do it to prove a point that I can withdraw there!
So what is your idea withdrawal target?
I would say getting to 2.5x your deposit is a pretty good result (though that does depend on your deposit amount & bet size).

I'm as guilty as anyone else here for getting my balance up to a REALLY nice amount, but not hitting the cash-out button until I've blown half of it (or worse!). But I don't blame the games for that - it's all my fault :oops:

KK
 
My general strategy is to deposit say 50 and have a target of doubling. So if and when I reach £100 I then withdraw at 75% of peak balance, i.e. say I reach 120 w/d point is £90. If I have a mad one and get to 1k or more, then 80% of peak. If you make a mental note of your highest balance and then use DISCIPLINE it's an effective way to make sure your payment method isn't a complete column of minuses!
 
Maybe that is my problem that i do not set targets when i deposit and as Dunover says discipline should be in all of us but again maybe that's the key to my wrongdoings this year.
When for example Rhino is playing pure shit.do i stop playing.Answer no as you think the 3 diamonds are going to appear on the very next spin.
 
Maybe that is my problem that i do not set targets when i deposit and as Dunover says discipline should be in all of us but again maybe that's the key to my wrongdoings this year.
When for example Rhino is playing pure shit.do i stop playing.Answer no as you think the 3 diamonds are going to appear on the very next spin.

My main problem is when a slot is cold..that after 200 spins or so I think a bonus is coming soon. Ive built up a nice balance of $1600 from $200 deposit...to raise my bets to $6 thinking the feature is coming lets hit big. To the feature not coming, or it comes and pays 5x. lol.

Ive been learning to leave the slot instead of chase it when its cold. This is a must. Its hard when you pour some money into it but cut your losses and just leave it.

The other day I was doing $25 spins. I lost $900 trying to get a feature at that bet. I hit it and it paid 6x. So I put a bottom line on my balance. If I hit that line, cashout and leave gambling for a bit. I had $500 left before I hit my bottom line. I was looking for a quick hit after that and was on tilt.

I went to roulette. I bet $300 on red and $200 on some middle numbers. Both hit and I won my $900 back I lost betting big. I got lucky. And I wont ever be doing those big of spins again.

Ive blown alot of good balances chasing the monster. But im learning. Today for example. I deposited $400 at slotsmillion and got as low as $50. I got lucky on a few slots and now have a balance of $700. I cashed out $675. Where as before being up a few hundred wasnt what I was looking for.

But if I go over all the times I thought this and continued playing and lost that profit plus my deposit, it would be like a really big hit if you add them together. So Im trying to have more discipline. If I can do that while running ok, I would really be in the profit this year.
 
So what is your idea withdrawal target?
I would say getting to 2.5x your deposit is a pretty good result (though that does depend on your deposit amount & bet size).

I'm as guilty as anyone else here for getting my balance up to a REALLY nice amount, but not hitting the cash-out button until I've blown half of it (or worse!). But I don't blame the games for that - it's all my fault :oops:

KK


It depends really as moods and tendencies have changed. In the early days I would chase a loss and aim/hope to make a withdrawal to hopefully cover my deposits (which sometimes run up in the several £100's) but lately it has mainly revolved around enjoying the play time on the slots and not focusing on money so much. However, if my boredom period has passed, then more than happy in making withdrawals in £50 increments - achievable from £20 deposits (VS has a £50 per week limit though, so withdrawals a bit more if lucky). Mainly play for minimum line bets, 30p and 60p spins. Used to do £2.50 spins on the Playtech Marvel games chasing the progressive jackpots, but that got too addictive/repetitive and only got worse after getting a £1,800 win.

Thankfully my attitude has changed to slots and more than happy being a low roller, although once in a while I may go for a much bigger session (namely if credit card is paid off!).

Best ever result while low rolling was a £200 withdrawal from a £5 deposit at Coral. Much more satisfaction and enjoyment with this than say a £400 withdrawal from a £300 deposit.

Been there in getting a nice balance up, only to blow it and hate myself afterwards. Shame you can't set an automatic cash out at the casino to ensure you get a withdrawal!
 
My general strategy is to deposit say 50 and have a target of doubling. So if and when I reach £100 I then withdraw at 75% of peak balance, i.e. say I reach 120 w/d point is £90. If I have a mad one and get to 1k or more, then 80% of peak. If you make a mental note of your highest balance and then use DISCIPLINE it's an effective way to make sure your payment method isn't a complete column of minuses!

I use the 75% of peak balance religiously and It's something that ensures some withdrawals and stops me from tilting, if I were to lose more then 25% of the peak then I'd probably blow the lot chasing it back, it is a system Id recommend for sure
 
Likewise, I am a medium size better, generally no more than about £3-4 a spin but can go up to £10+, down over £20k of actual money. Had some months where I withdrew £10k but that went back in a short time so I wont even include that, last year I was down a similar amount aswell. I have bought plenty though and when I get some nice wins I do treat myself so its not terrible but I could have done that with my own money anyway and not been in the hole.

Sad thing is, every deposit I make I almost always double or triple it, so if I was genuinely sensible I could actually do well, its just doubling your bankroll is for gamblers a cue to raise. If I can get a genuinely big hit in the next few months I will quit, until then I am sure I will keep throwing my cash in, did withdraw £1500 just then from a small deposit so I need a new ethos to my gambling and try to cover my losses atleast which I normally get the chance to. Gutted just then though, Kings of Chicago, natural royal flash almost perfectly lined up in the feature waiting for a queen to drop in...she drops in and its the wrong fucking suit, at £4 a stake would have been £16,000 :mad:

Gamblers though, any of us who really gamble heavily are generally deep down, every streamer I watch usually ends a session by blowing a grand..several times a week. I guess we can quit or keep waiting for a big win, as long as your not putting your life at risk from heavily gambling then just keep your head up, im lucky, im in my 20's and dont own a home or have kids so if it goes tits up for me, im still in the same place haha.

Similar for me , down at least £10k I think although I don't keep track. Except I haven't had any withdrawals above £3k or so . Just never hit big enough/consistently . It's unfortunate that £2-4 a spin is fun but when you get on the bigger bets it gets exciting but rarely continues going well :( I have hit a few bonuses on £25 stakes in my life and don't think I ever got above 20x :(
 
Maybe that is my problem that i do not set targets when i deposit and as Dunover says discipline should be in all of us but again maybe that's the key to my wrongdoings this year.
When for example Rhino is playing pure shit.do i stop playing.Answer no as you think the 3 diamonds are going to appear on the very next spin.

I wouldn't worry about it too much though . I mean , the only true strategy for slots is to play as little as possible :p
 
I'm down $662 this year. I guess I shouldn't complain considering a day I'm not gambling is rare.

Yesterday was an example of how my year has gone. When I woke up Monday, I was up $69. However, roulette, three card poker, blackjack w/ sidebets and slots were awful. I lost the $69 plus the $50 stake and started placing $5 bets with my bonus funds on roulette. I hit for $180!

I now have to clear this bonus with the limited amount of slots and they just were tight. I play Medusa II and it's generous but after awhile it gives me no bonuses. I kept playing until I was back to my original $50 but I had cleared the bonus.

This was my second time coming from the brink with my stake. Had a good pre-lunch run on blackjack and I'm up $19. A couple of lucky spins in roulette and I could be back to where I was.
 
I was break even on the 1st September.

It has been downhill since and game play has been awful. Short play time. Bust after bust. Just boring and tedious.

Because there doesn't seem to be an end to it, that is me done until December. No point throwing good money after bad.
 
This slotting year has been no real different to others, generally always play the same games, have my same betting patterns and 10/12 months it will be utter pants.

So as always I'm at the mercy of the slot's mood, I don't go crazy but still do too many micro-deposits and sometimes do small bouts of chasing. No lesson learnt there. I thought me and my games were friends by now, it's truly disappointing :mad:

Betting the same way will sometimes spring a major surprise and then the session can escalate. These are known as 'the good times', and my last good cashout came May.

My drought was broken on my birthday of all things with a £10 comp, so a big shout out to Captain America for that one. I had also got ample playtime when playing that in the early hours, though I'm unsure as to whether it was the tedium of the base game or the laggy spins as I was bladdered.

Still, a £180 freebie, Of which I've spunked about £100 just today getting Adventure Palace and DOA to play ball.

I hope to squeeze one more triumphant withdrawal out of somewhere, likely December, but boy are MG and Netent beings bastards right now. Might have to check some other providers out, you know, ones where it's not 'two bonus & bust' :eek:
 
I started to keep a record of deposits and withdrawals at the start of the year and am currently almost 8K in profit.Not been any really significant slots wins,my biggest has been stake x610 but because my personal circumstances have precluded visiting b&M casinos,i have been playing a lot of online blackjack which has contributed most of the profit.Plus some generous offers from the one casino where I hold VIP status (50-100% match bonuses with 5x wagering and all games counting 100%)
 
I started to keep a record of deposits and withdrawals at the start of the year and am currently almost 8K in profit.Not been any really significant slots wins,my biggest has been stake x610 but because my personal circumstances have precluded visiting b&M casinos,i have been playing a lot of online blackjack which has contributed most of the profit.Plus some generous offers from the one casino where I hold VIP status (50-100% match bonuses with 5x wagering and all games counting 100%)

I am starting to believe that slotting is a mug's game, the kind of non-interactive entertainment that never yields anything consistent.

However, as much as I'd love to play blackjack online and fancy my chances I have yet to encounter a fair AI version of it. And as for playing the Live Dealer ones, I have too much distrust of them based on the other players' strategies and lack of teamwork. That's just a passive observation but as a lowroller I'd never want to fund a BJ session playing £5 a hand, I'd consider it too risky.

Now if there were smaller denominations live games, I might even give it a punt...:cool:
 
If I had just discovered Slotting and started playing all this new shite, probably would have given it up straight away.
I stick to the older games and do ok.
Past 2 days I have tried new games and bust.
That paranormal activity was a right money gobbler, didnt even see what the bonus was like.
 
I am starting to believe that slotting is a mug's game, the kind of non-interactive entertainment that never yields anything consistent.

However, as much as I'd love to play blackjack online and fancy my chances I have yet to encounter a fair AI version of it. And as for playing the Live Dealer ones, I have too much distrust of them based on the other players' strategies and lack of teamwork. That's just a passive observation but as a lowroller I'd never want to fund a BJ session playing £5 a hand, I'd consider it too risky.

Now if there were smaller denominations live games, I might even give it a punt...:cool:

When I started playing online blackjack,i was using the electronic version and always found it extremely difficult to win.I lost count of the number of times I believed that the dealer had the luckiest cards of anyone,ever.With the live game,you can at least trust the game,i stick religiously to basic strategy although the number of other players who do this are few and far between.However you cannot legislate for others playing patterns and the same problem arises at land based casinos.I do agree that with the live game,it is very difficult for low rollers as it is rare to find a table with a minimum stake of less than £5.
 

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