Welp, that's me done!

TheresNoDInBonanza

Non-Gambler
Joined
Apr 2, 2018
Location
Australia
I guess these rogue joints don't have any reason to adhere to responsible gaming "guidelines" etc but I must say I'm surprised they don't honor account closure requests from problem gamblers.
Yep the email was sent, no action taken by them.
Just logged in to the account to see why I was still receiving promo emails.
 

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sufferinsilence

Meister Member
MM
Joined
Dec 13, 2017
Location
Belgium
Change your password to something very random and long, copypaste it once just to confirm the new password and don't save it in your browser! That way you can't login anymore without having to ask for a password change and it makes the process longer, the whole spur of the moment thing to gamble might be gone by then.
 

TheresNoDInBonanza

Non-Gambler
Joined
Apr 2, 2018
Location
Australia
Warning: This post contains references to wins, albeit lost ones.

Since my last update one month ago I logged back in to the above casino which I'd requested they close my accounts (winward and richcasino) to see why I was still receiving promo emails. I'd asked live chat to close due to gambling addiction and then emailed the address they told me to asking the same.

Regardless the account was left open and I quickly started depositing and losing again.

However I had some ridiculously good hits and was up $12,000! Unfortunately at this particular casino they take a week to verify your account, then another to even look at a withdrawal request ($4k/w limit), they then reverse the request and ask for a screenshot of your bank account "because people sometimes enter their account information wrong"- loooong story short they stalled me for over 2 weeks and I eventually caved and lost the lot.

I was disgusted with myself, as always, and vowed to never give them another cent (as always), but yet, as always, I was back depositing within 48 hours.

This time I won $25,000! - This was really life changing, this will be the one that I can finally end my career on, I said.
I looked in to all kinds of ways to try to prevent myself reversing it, but there were none I couldn't trivially bypass.
I requested the withdrawals and bare-knuckled it.. this time after a week they reversed the withdrawals and flagged my account for "random verification review", which could take up to 10 days, more time passed and eventually one night I lost it all in about 45 minutes.

I don't really have anything else to say, I've said it all before and it rings hollow now- but just thought an update may stop someone doing the same or using those casinos.
 

ShadyFei

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2016
Location
Canada - West Coast
Change the password to your account to something random, or better yet, have your wife do it. Or some trusted individual. That way, you can’t login even if you want to.
 

TheresNoDInBonanza

Non-Gambler
Joined
Apr 2, 2018
Location
Australia
I'm guessing the casino is no help. They dont allow you to lock the withdrawal or lock the account for a set period of time?
You can lock the account. But you just need to ask live chat to unlock it.. so no rg tools. Not surprising since they don't even honour account closure requests from admitted problem gamblers.
I don't know if they're on the rogue pit here or not but that alone should put them there imo.
 

ShadyFei

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2016
Location
Canada - West Coast
The money's lost. And aside from quitting work and living in the woods for six weeks there was no way I could think of to prevent it.
If you really want something, you will find a way. For 25K, I’d be telling my mother I have a gambling problem, give her all my phone and electronics, and lock myself in my parents basement. I find making problems very public has a way of keeping people on the straight and narrow.

Whatever it takes. No matter how unpalatable or humiliating. Do it.
 

Jasminebed

Game old gal
Joined
Mar 13, 2008
Location
Ontario
So what's your plan to stop this from happening again?

I'm sure you realize they would have at best refunded your deposits since you requested self-exclusion due to gambling problems.

You need to lock down your methods to deposit.

All those things that didn't work in the past, give them another shot. That was then, and this is now. Most people do not quit addictions alone. You are now older and wiser NoD. There will be a different group leader, and different group members. This can make a difference.

Personal therapy is not a one-size fits all. Nor is it a one-time process for most people. Start with session one and telling them this gambling is your most immediate and pressing issue. If they do not get this is a serious, LIFE THREATENING addiction, get a different therapist.
 

MartiniMan

high octane booze, works for me!
Joined
Oct 22, 2017
Location
earth
@TheresNoDInBonanza - Stop making excuses, it's time you realised you have a Gambling Addition.

Go to Gamblers Anonymous and fix yourself up. The 12 Step program works. However, you will only ever have success when YOU admit to yourself, YOU have a GAMBLING ADDICTION.
  1. We admitted we were powerless over gambling - that our lives had become unmanageable.
Sorry if my post offends people but it's been almost 9 months since he asked from help, and he's still making excuses to gamble.

Tough Love...
 

ShadyFei

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2016
Location
Canada - West Coast
If you really want something, you will find a way. For 25K, I’d be telling my mother I have a gambling problem, give her all my phone and electronics, and lock myself in my parents basement. I find making problems very public has a way of keeping people on the straight and narrow.

Whatever it takes. No matter how unpalatable or humiliating. Do it.
I should clarify, I'm a middle-aged professional and I do not live with my elderly parents. I realized my comment made me sound like a 14 year-old. Which is why it's my example of the hell I would put myself through to NOT gamble in his situation.
 

nutnut

Meister of Infractions
Joined
Sep 11, 2014
Location
england
25k is life changing.

i realise addiction is .............a addiction but i find it hard to stomach how anyone can lose that much money.
 

Bloatgoat

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webby
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Nov 29, 2017
Location
Somewhere
25k is life changing.

i realise addiction is .............a addiction but i find it hard to stomach how anyone can lose that much money.

Because you lose the value of money when playing online. Or in a local landbased when you would have 25k of chips worth in your hand. It would be a different story when the player would be presented 25k in cash in his hands.

They stall it on purpose, because they know the ones who cannot control themself would be too tempted to replay again. Burning 25k in 45 minutes. That was autoplay going beserk. Sorry dude, seek professional help. This 25k could have settled you at once. You should have told your relative like hey this is what i've won, please prevent me from playing again. Go out for a while.

For god sake. You should slam yourself on your head. This is stupid to watch man.
 

snorky510238

Chief glockenspiel maker
Joined
Jan 12, 2018
Location
Uk
Just as worrying is what stakes are being played to win those amounts? You don’t win them spinning a dollar!
 

nutnut

Meister of Infractions
Joined
Sep 11, 2014
Location
england
Because you lose the value of money when playing online. Or in a local landbased when you would have 25k of chips worth in your hand. It would be a different story when the player would be presented 25k in cash in his hands.

They stall it on purpose, because they know the ones who cannot control themself would be too tempted to replay again. Burning 25k in 45 minutes. That was autoplay going beserk. Sorry dude, seek professional help. This 25k could have settled you at once. You should have told your relative like hey this is what i've won, please prevent me from playing again. Go out for a while.

For god sake. You should slam yourself on your head. This is stupid to watch man.

I get all that but unless you rich 25k is 25k he isn't a stupid man.
 

Mr_Slot5

Senior Member
Joined
May 6, 2019
Location
North West
Wow 25k.

I could never EVER spin that amount of money away once I'd won it. I wouldn't even need to lock the account or even be tempted to play that away- the thought of 25k hitting my bank account would prevent that.

I can only imagine how addicted you must be to slots and I echo other's thoughts in here that you really need to keep trying to seek professional help.

Best wishes to you mate.
 

Bloatgoat

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I took 65k recently from a casino. 65k in my terms is not life changing. Thats what i make on avg in 3 to 6 months depending if i'm motivated or not.
 

Mr_Slot5

Senior Member
Joined
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Location
North West
I took 65k recently from a casino. 65k in my terms is not life changing. Thats what i make on avg in 3 to 6 months depending if i'm motivated or not.

Rich or not, 65k is a lot of money. If you dont think it is then you've lost all sense of monetary worth. 65k is 3 years wages for a lot of people.
 
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