Weekend Boster VS Cashback on Losses

We are not bashing VS in the way you think. We are bashing the loyalty. And of course there will be people who defend them and those that do not.

You cant tell us to stop posting our own views as this is a free forum to post what ever we like on. So as I said everyone is entitled to air their views and opinions.

Sorry if I came across like I am asking you to stop posting, that was not my intention.

However, VS is a great casino, not perfect, but among the best out there.

Kenny was always fair to me and I received pretty much what I would expect from him, be it comps, Free Spins, Extra Deposit Offers and other goodies. I can't complain at all. And then we have Dan, who is by FAAAR the most active casino rep on CM, he never failed to help me, and that always fast.

I can understand your points but please don't forget to see the good things too.
 
Sorry if I came across like I am asking you to stop posting, that was not my intention.

However, VS is a great casino, not perfect, but among the best out there.

Kenny was always fair to me and I received pretty much what I would expect from him, be it comps, Free Spins, Extra Deposit Offers and other goodies. I can't complain at all. And then we have Dan, who is by FAAAR the most active casino rep on CM, he never failed to help me, and that always fast.

I can understand your points but please don't forget to see the good things too.

You may have got lost in the moment when making your post because of the excitement of how well you have been doing there lately but dont forget about all the things you have called videoslots out on. Including some of their reward system.

You can find dozens of posts from most of the people saying their vip is shit, complimenting them in other areas.

The people who have deposited their own money and want to question casinos or show frustration have the right to a voice.
 
You may have got lost in the moment when making your post because of the excitement of how well you have been doing there lately but dont forget about all the things you have called videoslots out on. Including some of their reward system.

You can find dozens of posts from most of the people saying their vip is shit, complimenting them in other areas.

The people who have deposited their own money and want to question casinos or show frustration have the right to a voice.

This is the Trump thing again isn't it :eek:
 
To be honest, I have to defend Videoslots.

It is clearly a no bonus casino with their business model focused on cashback, race and rewards. Now, if you don't earn much cashback because of a bad run, it doesn't mean that they do not pay it out. The rate they pay back is always the same and comes to about $0.25 - $0.50 / $100 wagered. It is spread across all players as it is based on the amount wagered. And remember, you are getting the same amount of rewards even if you win and withdraw 100x your deposits.

I average around 9% in returns for my deposits, was 7.8% last year and just over 10% this year. That is just as good as pretty much any other casino since it is all cash money, wager free. This week i deposited $100 from my own money and sit currently at $220 in cashback and about $40 race money. I withdrew $2k this week which puts me back to even for this month, meaning all the cashback, race money and rewards are even on top of my money. Where can you have something like that???

Whoever wants to stretch his/her buck to the most possible has to look at places who offer higher cashback with wagering attached or bonuses. I just hope VS stays as it is! :thumbsup:

Please stop bashing Videoslots, it is one of the best and reliable casinos currently available.

My issue is my play time vs my deposits. I havent cashed out because I haven't been able to get even a dollar over my deposits, hense shitty cashback, and that is not just for this month. Minus August its been the last 6 months. I think its great that you can deposit 100 dollars and sit at 220 in cashback and 40 dollars in race money. That isn't the norm Harry. You have amazing luck. Is it my fault? You bet it is for not paying attention. I don't know why its so hard to get good play time for most of us. I am setting my limit at 150 dollars next month and that is it.
 
Maybe Videoslots should learn from Trada, yesterday they popped on the thread after Nate mentioned about their cashback and were willing to meet in the middle, there is no middle ground with Videoslots!
 
Maybe Videoslots should learn from Trada, yesterday they popped on the thread after Nate mentioned about their cashback and were willing to meet in the middle, there is no middle ground with Videoslots!

But Dan doesn't have power to sort these issues out with Loyalty, All he can do it take notes of the threads and posts and report them to the right departments and managers.

And we all know each casino who have reps give reps different types of powers. Some are actually managers who do and can make decisions and others are not.

Dan is a great rep and I have said this time and time again. He is the best rep in the industry. And that is not in doubt. What is the case is that the information Dan is relaying back to the other departments and Managers are not being taken seriously and nothing is being done to change it. And that is what is causing the frustration and anger.

Let me also say this. Dan has said to me in PM that there is some new amazing things coming that he said we will all like. And this was in response to my recent postings in this thread about my frustrations towards loyalty.

So when he says amazing. I really do not think we will find them amazing until we see what they have in store. But maybe it is a ploy to just make us feel and think something is coming that will be better in terms of rewards for loyalty or new features or better cashback. who knows.

But I personally do not think this amazing thing will be amazing at all.

But As I said I give them a week. And if i dont get anything back worthwhile from loyalty or see any improvements regarding loyalty then I stand by what I said. I quit for good this time at videoslots.
 
Maybe Videoslots should learn from Trada, yesterday they popped on the thread after Nate mentioned about their cashback and were willing to meet in the middle, there is no middle ground with Videoslots!

Trada is very professional and easy going. I see what they do for their players. Im just waiting for their new games. Im not much of a MG player. :p Also I see that there is alot of other good casinos, but I have never been one to casino jump and I've been playing for years. I am loyal to the end with what ever one I chose. Loyalty can mean so many different things to people right? For me it doesn't mean an active rep, it doesn't mean fast cashouts, because lets face it, it can be 15 min processing it, but can take 5 days to get to your bank. To me it means that they know who I am, I'm not lost in a sea of players, that I have stuck by them through good and bad, that I am rewarded as a faithful player. That I am NOT just someone making them rich. Also if I am doing really bad as I have been that they take the time out and acknowledge why this might be happening. They say the sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. :D
 
With regards the non deposit bonuses for streamers, remember that they get these because they are affiliates and that they bring in new customers.

That is the only reason they get these bonuses.

Perhaps those that complain about them should stream themselves and get these kind of bonuses too.

I no longer play at Videoslots but always found them to be good in terms of rewards compared to other casinos.

And with the greatest of respect to most contributors on this topic, you are no high roller (and neither am I).

And I said it before many a time..... your VIP manager only shows his face when you win big. Why give you the opportunity to recover your losses with the casinos money?
 
With regards the non deposit bonuses for streamers, remember that they get these because they are affiliates and that they bring in new customers.

That is the only reason they get these bonuses.

Perhaps those that complain about them should stream themselves and get these kind of bonuses too.

I no longer play at Videoslots but always found them to be good in terms of rewards compared to other casinos.

And with the greatest of respect to most contributors on this topic, you are no high roller (and neither am I).

And I said it before many a time..... your VIP manager only shows his face when you win big. Why give you the opportunity to recover your losses with the casinos money?

No kidding on the not being high rollars. My VIP host from another casino said he has seen deposits that equal his yearly wage. Lol. So I get it.
 
No kidding on the not being high rollars. My VIP host from another casino said he has seen deposits that equal his yearly wage. Lol. So I get it.

That is just it in my opinion. My deposits can be up to £1,000 per week (sounds a lot and it is a lot but remember you don't lose very single week). And I don't consider myself a high roller.

I am sure that the VIP department at VS will look after the proper high roller.... and that are those that chuck in 10k like it is nothing.
 
No kidding on the not being high rollars. My VIP host from another casino said he has seen deposits that equal his yearly wage. Lol. So I get it.

A famous hockey player named jaromir Jagr is an example of a high roller. The guy lost $500,000 on an online gambling website over a short period of time. After doing so, he negotiated the casino to pay them $37,500 monthly and one payment just over 100k and the final tally to be paid was $450,000. And even that isnt a high high roller. Some people deposit millions. But then he lost another 500k to another online site too....But really I think thats not all that much to him considering many of his contracts paid over 10 million per season.

Casinos absolutely love professional athletes.

I find when you deposit $500+ a month in a casino over a certain period of time is when the casino starts to appreciate you abit though. And once you reach about 1k in deposits a month is when you start getting ok treatment. Once you start going a bit above that like a few k a month is when you really start feeling some love. This is in general terms though as some casinos act differently obviously
 
That is just it in my opinion. My deposits can be up to £1,000 per week (sounds a lot and it is a lot but remember you don't lose very single week). And I don't consider myself a high roller.

I am sure that the VIP department at VS will look after the proper high roller.... and that are those that chuck in 10k like it is nothing.

Oh trust me, I lose every single week. I dont even get above my deposits. Thats where a deposit bonus would come in handy at VS.
 
A famous hockey player named jaromir Jagr is an example of a high roller. The guy lost $500,000 on an online gambling website over a short period of time. After doing so, he negotiated the casino to pay them $37,500 monthly and one payment just over 100k and the final tally to be paid was $450,000. And even that isnt a high high roller. Some people deposit millions. But then he lost another 500k to another online site too....But really I think thats not all that much to him considering many of his contracts paid over 10 million per season.

Casinos absolutely love professional athletes.

I find when you deposit $500+ a month in a casino over a certain period of time is when the casino starts to appreciate you abit though. And once you reach about 1k in deposits a month is when you start getting ok treatment. Once you start going a bit above that like a few k a month is when you really start feeling some love. This is in general terms though as some casinos act differently obviously

WWell I deposited a little over 2 k this month, and just checked my cashback for this month and its gone up to 50 dollars, and that is across the board. Im not feeling the love. lol
 
I think a lot of people have a misconception about people being honest. The thread is intended to discuss Weekend Booster vs Cashback on losses. If people are stating they spent 1k and got $5 - then thee thread is doing exactly what it is intended to do. If you deposit $100 and have $300 in booster - then the thread is serving its purpose.

I play at Videoslots because they pay fast - PERIOD. They have no special perks and offer 15% less than I get at Trada as an example. I have been on a Bonanza run (Diabolical i might add) but Trada doesn't offer the game and other places pay too slowly. So i prefer playing at VS primarily because they pay quick.

I don't feel like anyone is bashing anyone - since when has it become a problem to be honest? I mean brutally honest. If you had a bad experience with a VIP Manager or rep, how else would you know if that is the norm UNLESS you chat about it? Do we need to discuss this via PM?

People are sharing what value they get out. As i said before - Some people get GREAT value, others don't. I got 3% - and Videoslots insists this is good value. I say it isn't, And the only way I will know with certainty if they are really as bad as some make out is if others share their opinions.

This community is built on the MEMBERS looking out for one another. We share our experiences so others can make informed decisions. If we start muting our opinions that's when we become bias.

Nate
 
I think a lot of people have a misconception about people being honest. The thread is intended to discuss Weekend Booster vs Cashback on losses. If people are stating they spent 1k and got $5 - then thee thread is doing exactly what it is intended to do. If you deposit $100 and have $300 in booster - then the thread is serving its purpose.

I play at Videoslots because they pay fast - PERIOD. They have no special perks and offer 15% less than I get at Trada as an example. I have been on a Bonanza run (Diabolical i might add) but Trada doesn't offer the game and other places pay too slowly. So i prefer playing at VS primarily because they pay quick.

I don't feel like anyone is bashing anyone - since when has it become a problem to be honest? I mean brutally honest. If you had a bad experience with a VIP Manager or rep, how else would you know if that is the norm UNLESS you chat about it? Do we need to discuss this via PM?

People are sharing what value they get out. As i said before - Some people get GREAT value, others don't. I got 3% - and Videoslots insists this is good value. I say it isn't, And the only way I will know with certainty if they are really as bad as some make out is if others share their opinions.

This community is built on the MEMBERS looking out for one another. We share our experiences so others can make informed decisions. If we start muting our opinions that's when we become bias.

Nate
Well said. And yes there is a huge discrepancy with 100 dollar deposit and sitting above 200 dollars in cashback vs 2 k deposit and Jonathan just informed me 61.00 in cashback ( 10 dollar difference :rolleyes:) but he also informed to look at all the other stuff too, I just want a good and fair play time so I'm not bitching about the cashback or casino race money. 61.00 over a month span for that kind of deposits, sucks and its every month. One could argue that they don't have to do the cashback or race, and there is that " you should be grateful you even get that" I really hate when someone says that. It reminds me of an abusive parent or partner. In the end we are all acting on free will. So we either stay and be "grateful", or we move on. I like that Dan has been pro-active, I like that Dan was there when I was sick. DAN! He did that on his own, but I have paid that back and more, so I don't ever want that thrown back in my face as it has been a few times. Rachel was there also and has never complained about me not playing there. She has tons of dignity and class that lady. That is my last stance on the matter, and now am done :)
 
There is much worse out there than VS in terms of loyalty ( Leovegas / Unibet are you listening? ).

There is perhaps better out there too. A percentage back off your losses as has been mentioned here is always great. But you only get that when you lose whilst at VS you get the cashback win or lose. If you add all of that cashback up over the year, is it equal or less than the cashback on the losses only at another casino (bearing into mind you don't lose each and every week on average).

I got rewarded at Casumo today by levelling up to a purple belt. 50 Euro cash with £1,500 wagering attached. What use is that when you are up against it converting the bonus to cash?

Rizk with their shitty wheel of 5 free spins at minimum bet. What use is that?
 
There is much worse out there than VS in terms of loyalty ( Leovegas / Unibet are you listening? ).

There is perhaps better out there too. A percentage back off your losses as has been mentioned here is always great. But you only get that when you lose whilst at VS you get the cashback win or lose. If you add all of that cashback up over the year, is it equal or less than the cashback on the losses only at another casino (bearing into mind you don't lose each and every week on average).

I got rewarded at Casumo today by levelling up to a purple belt. 50 Euro cash with £1,500 wagering attached. What use is that when you are up against it converting the bonus to cash?

Rizk with their shitty wheel of 5 free spins at minimum bet. What use is that?

Absolutely - I agree with you. We all know that IF you go on a good run it can be rewarding. When you struggle, you will get a kick in the teeth.

Unibet - I gave up playing there - They are horrific.

Casumo - Their rewards system becomes a cash chewing exercise once you hit black belt. When you are on the other levels, you get the odd valuable here an there. Once you reach Black, you need to go through SIX levels which are extremely hard to complete only to be thrown a 70% Deposit Bonus with 25X D+B.. Sometimes 10 FS and 25 Eur.... I did get the 50, but in all honesty, the program lacks and is not rewarding in the slightest for Black Belt players. You will lose large amounts ( at least i did) before you leveled up each time - or probably wager a ton. Naturally it depends on bet size - You can play 0.10c to try to get there quicker. All in all i told them several times they need to revamp and they did - now they just offer less. :D - They even asked for Feedback through a survey and I haven't heard anything from them since then, apart from Deposit 25 and Get 25 Spins :rolleyes:

Nate
 
Absolutely - I agree with you. We all know that IF you go on a good run it can be rewarding. When you struggle, you will get a kick in the teeth.

Unibet - I gave up playing there - They are horrific.

Casumo - Their rewards system becomes a cash chewing exercise once you hit black belt. When you are on the other levels, you get the odd valuable here an there. Once you reach Black, you need to go through SIX levels which are extremely hard to complete only to be thrown a 70% Deposit Bonus with 25X D+B.. Sometimes 10 FS and 25 Eur.... I did get the 50, but in all honesty, the program lacks and is not rewarding in the slightest for Black Belt players. You will lose large amounts ( at least i did) before you leveled up each time - or probably wager a ton. Naturally it depends on bet size - You can play 0.10c to try to get there quicker. All in all i told them several times they need to revamp and they did - now they just offer less. :D - They even asked for Feedback through a survey and I haven't heard anything from them since then, apart from Deposit 25 and Get 25 Spins :rolleyes:

Nate

Unibet sent me a survey asking me why I havent played there in a long time. My response was "your loyalty is awful and needs serious improvement. When a player loses $1500 over a few days and asks for a reload bonus giving them $5 with 35x wager is outrageous"
 
My issue is my play time vs my deposits. I havent cashed out because I haven't been able to get even a dollar over my deposits, hense shitty cashback, and that is not just for this month. Minus August its been the last 6 months. I think its great that you can deposit 100 dollars and sit at 220 in cashback and 40 dollars in race money. That isn't the norm Harry. You have amazing luck. Is it my fault? You bet it is for not paying attention. I don't know why its so hard to get good play time for most of us. I am setting my limit at 150 dollars next month and that is it.

Please read my complete post.

The $100 was the first deposit for this week and the $2K in wins brought me back to just even, in fact a little profit, for this month. Hence, I lost nearly $2K from 1st - 20th November and got to that date some $50 in cashback, appr. $60 in FS winnings from battles/Tuesday FS and about $40 in race winnings only, that's about 7.5% of my deposits. With this week I am about even and will have about $400 in rewards in total plus the Freerolls and the upcoming battle weekend on top. Looks like a very good month so far, but there is still one week to go. ;)

It's not all fine and dandy! There are countless sessions where I do not get ahead by a dime, let alone a dollar. But I do go onto medium to high bets when I see a good session ($10 on Bonanza or White Rabbit, $9 on DoA are high bets for me). Strolling along with the same bet size means you need to be VERY lucky to get back just to even.

Truth is, casinos owe us nothing, nada, zilch. Whatever they do are all player retention tools and these are finely calculated to avoid making a loss on the extras they dish out as well as making sure the player comes back for more. The business model at VS is calculated to the extreme, it is actually genius when you look at it. All and everything is hinged on the fact that you must wager on the games to get anything, be it trophies, rewards, cashback, access to the Free Battles, race winnings. Absolutely great model as a casino earns money only on the wagered amount, hence you basically pay for your rewards before they even have to hand them out!

The reason VS is giving out lower amounts of extras is purely because they are all cash. They could quadruple the race winnings or cashback and slap 30X or 40X wagering on it, the player has the feeling he gets more but in fact he/she doesn't as most of the time they won't successfully convert the bonus to cash.

Personally, I take $50 cash any time over a $100 or $200 bonus as I don't have to care about T&C's, no limits on withdrawals, no restricted games etc. The bonus certainly gives you more play time but it is in no way a guarantee that you will cash out more.

My personal feeling is that I am appropriately rewarded for my loyalty at VS, on average 10% of my deposits all in cash is sufficient. I know from another reputable casino that they can sustain on average a 25 - 30 % bonus/deposit ratio to still stay profitable and that is all with minimum 30X wagering attached. Higher WR will support higher ratios. Hence, appr. 10% in cash from VS is pretty good value IMHO. Not everyone achieves the 10% but I am quite sure that is about the average VS is calculating with.
 
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Please read my complete post.

The $100 was the first deposit for this week and the $2K in wins brought me back to just even, in fact a little profit, for this month. Hence, I lost nearly $2K from 1st - 20th November and got to that date some $50 in cashback, appr. $60 in FS winnings from battles/Tuesday FS and about $40 in race winnings only, that's about 7.5% of my deposits. With this week I am about even and will have about $400 in rewards in total plus the Freerolls and the upcoming battle weekend on top. Looks like a very good month so far, but there is still one week to go. ;)

It's not all fine and dandy! There are countless sessions where I do not get ahead by a dime, let alone a dollar. But I do go onto medium to high bets when I see a good session ($10 on Bonanza or White Rabbit, $9 on DoA are high bets for me). Strolling along with the same bet size means you need to be VERY lucky to get back just to even.

Truth is, casinos owe us nothing, nada, zilch. Whatever they do are all player retention tools and these are finely calculated to avoid making a loss on the extras they dish out as well as making sure the player comes back for more. The business model at VS is calculated to the extreme, it is actually genius when you look at it. All and everything is hinged on the fact that you must wager on the games to get anything, be it trophies, rewards, cashback, access to the Free Battles, race winnings. Absolutely great model as a casino earns money only on the wagered amount, hence you basically pay for your rewards before they even have to hand them out!

The reason VS is giving out lower amounts of extras is purely because they are all cash. They could quadruple the race winnings or cashback and slap 30X or 40X wagering on it, the player has the feeling he gets more but in fact he/she doesn't as most of the time they won't successfully convert the bonus to cash.

Personally, I take $50 cash any time over a $100 or $200 bonus as I don't have to care about T&C's, no limits on withdrawals, no restricted games etc. The bonus certainly gives you more play time but it is in no way a guarantee that you will cash out more.

My personal feeling is that I am appropriately rewarded for my loyalty at VS, on average 10% of my deposits all in cash is sufficient. I know from another reputable casino that they can sustain on average a 25 - 30 % bonus/deposit ratio to still stay profitable and that is all with minimum 30X wagering attached. Higher WR will support higher ratios. Hence, appr. 10% in cash from VS is pretty good value IMHO. Not everyone achieves the 10% but I am pretty sure that is about the average VS is calculating with.
Im moaning and groaning over my continues crap luck there. I think I have had good 3 withdrawls in 2 years, the rest of my play time has been horrible, that getting over anything I deposit no matter the size is impossible. I seriously thought that there was something wrong with my computer, lol. The battles? Hahaha, we won't even go there. I'm lucky if I even place. I even come in last in the 250 free roll, last meaning no prize and there is only 30 some odd people in those. I'm mad at me. I am asking Dan to set a deposit limit on my account for the month starting next week. I will either win or lose, but I am not depositing 2k a month anymore. People don't pay attention sometimes, myself included and its a dangerous road to go down. I wen't down it before I got sick and swore up and down I wouldn't do it again. How quick we forget. . At least with a deposit limit, I won't forget :).
 
Im moaning and groaning over my continues crap luck there. I think I have had good 3 withdrawls in 2 years, the rest of my play time has been horrible, that getting over anything I deposit no matter the size is impossible. I seriously thought that there was something wrong with my computer, lol. The battles? Hahaha, we won't even go there. I'm lucky if I even place. I even come in last in the 250 free roll, last meaning no prize and there is only 30 some odd people in those. I'm mad at me. I am asking Dan to set a deposit limit on my account for the month starting next week. I will either win or lose, but I am not depositing 2k a month anymore. People don't pay attention sometimes, myself included and its a dangerous road to go down. I wen't down it before I got sick and swore up and down I wouldn't do it again. How quick we forget. . At least with a deposit limit, I won't forget :).

You do not need to ask Dan to do it.

You can do it yourself in your account section in the responsible gambling tab.

You can also set max bet limit too. So you can not bet more than your max bet you set. Also you can set wagered money amount as well.

VS do have some nice responsible gambling tools available.

To be fair. So you could easily set up a deposit limit per week, then set a wagered amount per week of like 10X the deposit limit.
 
Im moaning and groaning over my continues crap luck there. I think I have had good 3 withdrawls in 2 years, the rest of my play time has been horrible, that getting over anything I deposit no matter the size is impossible. I seriously thought that there was something wrong with my computer, lol. The battles? Hahaha, we won't even go there. I'm lucky if I even place. I even come in last in the 250 free roll, last meaning no prize and there is only 30 some odd people in those. I'm mad at me. I am asking Dan to set a deposit limit on my account for the month starting next week. I will either win or lose, but I am not depositing 2k a month anymore. People don't pay attention sometimes, myself included and its a dangerous road to go down. I wen't down it before I got sick and swore up and down I wouldn't do it again. How quick we forget. . At least with a deposit limit, I won't forget :).

It does make a difference when you limit what you deposit, you don't get so frustrated losing all the time. I have had no trophies for over a month and I have only received free spins once since they stopped dishing them every week, had pennies in the freeroll and minimum weekend booster, £158 in and only £300 in wagering so i refuse to deposit - I know it's not a lot but why deposit when I don't get any enjoyment.

I know it's the freeroll weekend but I hate Fruit Warp and I tend to end up with £5 most of the time from these so I am admitting defeat for the time being :)

Keep your chin up - I should practice what I preach but sometimes if you think positive then your luck changes :)
 

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