Watch those fake IDs

[mary]

In couldn't find anything in the Kahnawake regs that addresses the issue of identification provided for withdrawals/banking purposes, never mind the issue of submitting incorrect documents...

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Player could have a good case here, using the Nevada precedent.

Here's the Kahnawake complaint page:

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I would love to see this dispute submitted to them and to see their response.

 

[jerryg]

It probably depends on the processing company used.

Usually, the guys willing to use "uncoded" processors to push credit cards are at the largest risk. When a charge back happens on that system, it is the uncoded merchant who is suppose to supply proof of purchase to the credit card company, and they typically won't because they do not want to risk causing an investigation by Visa or MC. The shadier the processing, the easier it is to get away with disputed charges.

That was really only on my mind because I had a discussion yesterday with someone who got hit pretty hard. They had paid a player $11k in winnings over a period of a few months, only to have the guy turn around and dispute all of the purchases. Yikes. It's times like that when I am happy that I'm not a casino operator. (Added note: It should be mentioned that they were not actually out that much money - only the processing fees associated with the purchases).


In this particular case, I just do not see the act/mistake as being an act of fraud in itself. It was not something that was done to trick the casino into thinking he was entitled to winnings - he was already entitled without deceiving them. Maybe the casino has a different definition though, or maybe this is specifically covered under their T&C - I just do not know.

Whether they should pay winnings or not, I would certainly agree with the casino refusing future play from this person, since he's already demonstrated that he is not above fibbing or falsifying documents in order to play. That's risky behavior, and I can't imagine anyone wanting to accept that business.

Ultimately, as long as he got his deposit back (and it seems that he did), then he should probably consider himself lucky, count his blessings, and learn from the experience.

 

[Easycoins]

**we would have to agree to disagree. I am not changing my mind. This person committed a CRIME. Accident or no. There is NO EXCUSE for having a FAKE ID in the FIRST place as far as I'm concerned. I have done many stupid things in my life, but NONE of them could end me up in JAIL. At most, i'd expect the casino to give back the deposit and close the account.

Vevusio - you pulled my whole mail apart, and I enjoyed your presentation very much ! :notworthy

I guess its just me then... lol **

He commited a crime, that's right, but it's not the casinos work to handle with crimes. They don't care of foreign players, obviously playing from countries where gambling is not allowed. This is also a crime!
What the casino should do if they are really interested in other people comitting crime is telling the authorities of the players country!
They cannot play judge and take your money, when they know you have stolen something in a supermarket before which is also a crime.

Think about this:

A legal aged guy goes to a liquor store, buying some hard stuff, showing up a faked ID (not even the age, what is important in this case, no the name is faked). He pays, and now the owner finds out it's a faked ID. He takes the bottles away from the guy but wouldn't return the money cause the client commited a crime.

I think thats not really fair!