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Wager Works Software

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by aodat2, Oct 10, 2010.

    Oct 10, 2010
  1. aodat2

    aodat2 Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnoaccred2 PABaccred2

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Malaysia
    Hi Guys,

    How many of you guys actually play with Wager Works software games?

    I was playing a few of their games and something just popped up in my mind.

    1. Is their software really random?
    2. Anybody knows their payout ratio?
    3. Have anyone done any checks on Wager Works software before?

    I'm totally not accusing them of cheating or anything along those lines but I was just wondering this after I played the game "Vegas Blackjack with 20+ Bonus".

    You might be asking why am I asking this? The answer is simple...

    Because when I played "BJ with Hot Streak Bonus", "Power BJ", "Double Attack BJ", I tend to see more random results as opposed to that of Vegas BJ with 20+ Bonus.

    Really simple question to ask yourself... How often do you tie at 20 with the dealer? How often do you get 20? I'm quite sure your answer is kinda simple, which is quite often. I'd say about at least more than 10% of the time, you will get 2 face cards directly. I get a lot of that (20's) with the other BJ's but when I am playing Vegas BJ with 20+ Bonus, it seems that all the face cards and all the 20's disappear. Even the dealer 20 tie with your 20 has significantly been reduced and if you get a 20, about 95% of the time even with the dealer showing a face card, you won't see the dealer getting 20 to tie with you. This is because if the dealer tie at 20 with you, the bonus is given at 20X the bonus bet which is a lot.

    I'm not too sure if I'm the only person realizing this but it seems that the results are not entirely 100% random. Something is surely wrong and not really correct. With the Bonus in play, it seems that ties at 20 is almost very hard to come by because of the high payout.

    Did anyone else notice this or am I the only person who is noticing this problem. Are the games at Wager Works truely random? I'd really appreciate your comments and your views on this. Do comment.
     
  2. Oct 10, 2010
  3. steveh35

    steveh35 Senior Member

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    I used to play at Blue Sq and Getminted more than I do now I never used to play there expecting to win I had a few big wins over the years mainly on Dungeons & Dragons, Monopoly and Davinci Diamonds but I mainly played low stakes on Bingo Keno. I find there games very high variance and it was mostly a case of you either won big on a given day or you just lost everything. I started on BlueSq and eventually moved to Getminted (As Bluesq dropped Bingo Keno for a while)but as I say I don't go into their casinos looking to make a profit if it happens I'm happy.

    The best thing about Wagerworks casinos is that most withdrawals are instant there's no reverse available.

    I mainly used to play if I was short on funds and see how long on Bingo Keno I could last with a fiver and if I got a large profit move onto the video slots.
     
  4. Oct 10, 2010
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Like Steve I've played quite regularly (on & off) at Wagerworks casinos for many years; Mainly at Paddy Power, Virgin & Sky Vegas.
    However, since they tightened up on their bonus terms I have mostly played just slots and very rarely touched any card games - so I can't really comment on those.
    I do believe though that Wagerworks are widely considered to be one of the most well regulated & reputable softwares on the net, and I personally think it's very unlikely they would deliberately try to cheat players at all.

    KK
     
  6. Oct 10, 2010
  7. liquuid_fusion

    liquuid_fusion Meister Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred2 PABaccred

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    UK
    Wagerworks is almost certainly not rigged, as KK says it's very well regarded and reputable and is regulated by Alderney (probably the strictest and safest jurisdiction of them all).

    As an aside, I don't like playing Hot Streak BJ there as it "feels" rigged sometimes, but my overall results are completey normal. The feeling of games being rigged is just a result of imagination and the brain trying to see patterns that don't really exist.
     
  8. Oct 10, 2010
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    England
    Wagerworks is owned by IGT. Too much at stake for that to happen IMO.
     
  10. Oct 11, 2010
  11. aodat2

    aodat2 Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnoaccred2 PABaccred2

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    Malaysia
    Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that it's rigged.

    I'm just saying that they changed the probability of it occurring. Nothing much. I'm also about 99% sure that they won't cheat or anything like that. I'm just feeling that it's something which is done on their part of the probability of you getting a 20 and etc. being less.

    That's all that I am saying. Not saying or implying that they are cheating or the software is rigged or anything along those lines.

    For those of you who have never played it, try the "DEMO" or "FREE PLAY" mode and you'll see what I mean. It's free, play as much as you like on it and see what happens.
     
  12. Oct 11, 2010
  13. DevChap

    DevChap Dormant account

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    Webmaster; Website Administrator
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    Brooklyn
    I'm not sure where you're playing, but have you asked to see a payout report? You should be able to get this, including past monthly payouts just for Blackjack. Just ask for it. If you dig deep enough on the site where you're playing, you may be able to find it published there as well.
     
  14. Nov 1, 2010
  15. petkaymad

    petkaymad Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Network Admin
    Location:
    Out Woopwoop Way
    I am a self professed WagerWorks casino fan and get a good gut feeling everytime I play at thier casinos. Once I had a big losing run and almost lost my bankroll, so I decided to play demo mode for a while to see if I got a different result playing the same way. Now I regularly play both modes to see if it is always playing the same way each time. I am happy to say that in all the times that I have played demo or real mode the results look identical each time. This is the only software that I can honestly say that I have seen this. Both modes IMO are identical, these results, their reputation and what people have been saying about them on this forum gives me a lot of confidence in their sites.

    They should now start paying me to promote their software. :yahoo:
     
  16. Nov 1, 2010
  17. baldidiot

    baldidiot Experienced Member webmeister

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    London
    I like wagerworks - it has some interesting games like the hot streak BJ mentioned above. Plus the slots have some cool/unusual features - like the elvis multi strike etc...
     

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