Wager Junction How Generous

me_and_ed

Paleo Meister (means really, really old)
CAG
MM
Joined
Jun 2, 2006
Location
Vancouver
Have you seen the T&C's to their offers, unbelieveable, I wonder how many players dont read the fine print and see the astronomical playthrough requirements.

Promotional Terms and Conditions

*Minimum 35 times wagering of deposit + bonus on all 150% coupon codes on SLOTS & KENO ONLY
*Minimum 70 times wagering of deposit + bonus on all 100% coupon codes on BJ, VP, MHVP & CSP ONLY
*Prior to withdrawal a balance greater than deposit + bonus required.
*Each bonus is only available to players with no account balance and no pending withdrawals.
*If an excluded game is played at any time before wagering requirements are fulfilled, all game play is void.
*Wagering requirements must completed within 14 days after coupon code redemption
*Only available to those players to whom the offer was sent
*Offers available once per player and not valid in conjunction with any other offers.
*This offer is terminable at any time in accordance with the views of management without prior notice or obligation
* All offers are valid until from the 1st January 2007 - 7th January 2007 (0:00 EST)
 

Macgyver

Dormant account
PABnononaccred
Joined
Feb 3, 2004
Location
North Carolina
If you're referring to the 70x (or even the 35x) wagering requirements, that's not the worst I've ever seen.

Not very good, I do agree, but not the worst.
 

winbig

Keep winning this amount.
Joined
Mar 10, 2005
Location
Pennsylvania
Isn't it like 600x playthrough for MG bonuses if you play BJ?

70x is great compared to that ;)
 

tencardcharlie

Dormant account
Joined
Jul 18, 2005
Location
The playboy mansion.
They offer 5 different BJ bonus codes up to 15.000 each this new year (geisha lounge). Uhmmm... thats a lot of bonuses. I think I remember seeing them on the accredited list, but they don't seem to be there. Are they safe?
 

EasyRhino

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Location
San Diego
I've actually played there a lot recently. You can eke out a small expected profit if you play the bonuses very aggressively. Again, not massively positive, just a little. I try to triple up my bankroll, before grinding out the ridiculously huge WR. At least with multiple coupons available at once, you have a decent chance of doing it.

Since their table limits are small on blackjack ($50 a hand), I usually only deposit that much, so the $15,000 doesn't really come into play. :)
 

GrandMaster

Dormant account
Joined
Jan 21, 2004
Location
UK
If you're referring to the 70x (or even the 35x) wagering requirements, that's not the worst I've ever seen.

Not very good, I do agree, but not the worst.
It is 1500xB (ouch!) if you play classic BJ or all aces VP at most MG casinos.
 

tesla

Dormant account
PABnoaccred
PABnoaccred2
Joined
Jul 1, 2005
Location
the world
I've actually played there a lot recently. You can eke out a small expected profit if you play the bonuses very aggressively. Again, not massively positive, just a little. I try to triple up my bankroll, before grinding out the ridiculously huge WR. At least with multiple coupons available at once, you have a decent chance of doing it.

Since their table limits are small on blackjack ($50 a hand), I usually only deposit that much, so the $15,000 doesn't really come into play. :)

hmm I noticed you are from the US and I thought this group was no US now?
 

EasyRhino

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Location
San Diego
Well, I created the accounts a long time ago, but my first deposits of money were all post-ban. If you really want to play there and are from the US, I'd give it a shot. They have offers for little chumply freechips on new accounts.
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
Joined
Oct 14, 2004
Location
United Kingdom
It is worse than MG.

It is 1500xB (ouch!) if you play classic BJ or all aces VP at most MG casinos.

It's not just the astronomical WR, you have to end up with at least your original deposit and bonus before you can withdraw!


I was under the impression that Wager Junction would not be pulling these "Warren Cloud" style stunts again after a couple came out earlier in the Autumn ("Fall" to you lot "over the pond").

I now only play occasionally at King Solomons Pound Casino, and with suitably modest 100 for 80 coupons. This gives thge best chance to meet such terms with just a couple of decent slot hits. The "all games" coupon is in fact slots and a small number of the table games added. I had not realised they might have gone from the accredited list, I had better double check.
 

EasyRhino

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Location
San Diego
I've gotten a continuous stream from Solomons, Geisha Lounge, and Gold Key (all Wager Junction) that have very cloud-esque bonus offers (very high WRs, ridiculous high max bonus amounts).

Both Geisha and Gold Key are the most consistent in their uncreative structure. Geisha is very reliable about offering about 10 slot coupons and 5 BJ/VP coupons per week. Gold Key is more likely to have slots-only coupons. Solomon's mixes it up, and often has fewer coupons, (and the "all games" coupon is more likely to be smaller %, and exclude blackjack and VP). Portofino (also in group) seemed to offer a more normal match bonus at the beginning of this month.

But, to give them their props, the bonuses are cashable (which is nice for an RTG), and I they've all paid me (although they dragged ass some over the holidays).

And as I posted previously, it is possible to turn these into +EV with some work, so if they keep sending them, I'll keep playing them.
 

tencardcharlie

Dormant account
Joined
Jul 18, 2005
Location
The playboy mansion.
Thanks for the tip rhino, I managed to turn my deposit into a decent cashout, and my money is home. T'was fun!

I can't claim the next new year coupon though, is this because I won on the first one?
 
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EasyRhino

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Location
San Diego
The last Solomons mailer I got had two coupons, set for the first, and one starting on the 5th I think.

... and don't blame me when you lose. :)
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
Joined
Oct 14, 2004
Location
United Kingdom
Modest.

These modest, even if numerous, coupons are what they should be sending out.

The silly 15K coupons of "Cloud" fame are what a reputable RTG casino need to avoid like the plague.

The earlier batch was apparently an "accident", so this seems that the group are becoming prone to marketing "accidents". With the negative feeling now growing towards RTG for disbanding Montanna Disputes and seemingly allowing licencees free reign to pull stunts, such a marketing move by a casino group that values it's reputation is VERY UNWISE.
Already there have been calls to punish the few reputable RTG outfits to force them to use their muscle on RTG to sort out the numerous cowboy operators.
 

EasyRhino

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Location
San Diego
VWM, the real irony of the bonuses with ridiculously high maximums is that they're for casinos that often have very low table maxes. Making it nearly impossible to play through the bonus in any reasonable amount of time.

And, for bonus-hustlers like me, effectively limiting the size of the bonus that can be attacked.
 

siilix

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Joined
Jan 10, 2006
Location
the land of despair and darkness
Good that someone is able to win from those coupons!:thumbsup: I have been trying hard to make a cash out from those coupons in one of Wager Junction casinos, I have deposited many times and still it seems impossible to win something, my last session lasted something like 9 hours on a slot coupon (deposited $50 I got 150% match bonus), I did well till the wagering requirements were almost completed and than I busted just in the end. They gave me VIP level...I think because of my losing streak.:eek2:
Please send me some good luck!!:oops:
 

EasyRhino

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Location
San Diego
Yep, I just tried doing Solomon's 50% "all games" coupon for the weekend. I decided to play caribbean hold'em, as there's lot of game restrictions. I decided to bet it all until my chipcount was 3.5 times what I started with, before I tried to really grind out the WR.

Instead, I lost it all on the first hand. That's the breaks. Now I can wait until next week's coupons!

I experimented with their slot coupons once, but I didn't like it, it just took too long to grind out the WR, it was painful.
 
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