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Virtual Cipher Strand

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by cipher, Sep 3, 2004.

    Sep 3, 2004
  1. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    It's certainly no secret that I've never been a real fan of Virtual Casino.

    But I've got to admitt that there are some pretty serious changes (for the better) that have come about over the last year or so at Virtual Casino.

    In any event I've put together a fairly large sample. The first three strands from left to right is the data from the first session and the second session consists of the last two strands from left to right. Have a good one.
     
  2. Sep 4, 2004
  3. jerseyguy11

    jerseyguy11 Dormant account

    Location:
    new jersey
    nice run
     
  4. Sep 4, 2004
  5. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Thanks Jersey, by the way I owe you a reply to that PM but I've been totally swamped. I'll try to get to it Sunday. Have a good one.
     
  6. Sep 4, 2004
  7. seanjohn

    seanjohn Banned User - Violation of posting rules

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    i really dont see your point in posting these strands....what's your point?
    i mean are you trying to show off?
    well i think you are not...but the reasons behide you posting these things totally escapes me....
     
  8. Sep 4, 2004
  9. Black21Jack

    Black21Jack Dormant account

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    What do you care? If you don't like it them do not read the thread. I for one find the information very useful. keep it up cipher.
     
  10. Sep 4, 2004
  11. Anteater

    Anteater Dormant account

    Location:
    CA

    Very nice, I keep that.

    Do you have any specific strategy(not mean card) if you do not mind? or just feeling? :cool:
     
  12. Sep 4, 2004
  13. seanjohn

    seanjohn Banned User - Violation of posting rules

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    i dont mean to be offensive
    i just dont see what's going on and i would like to learn, too
    i was wondering if the poster is suggesting we should bet like him or what...
     
  14. Sep 4, 2004
  15. jerseyguy11

    jerseyguy11 Dormant account

    Location:
    new jersey
    sean jean, as you probably know from the other RTG post, RTG casinos have quite a bit of controversy concerning fair play. Ciphers strands are helpful (at least to me) in showing each RTG casinos win/loss ratios.
     
  16. Sep 4, 2004
  17. bethug

    bethug Banned User - Winner of the "<a href="http://www.c

    there nothing wrong with cipher showing you how he plays
     
  18. Sep 4, 2004
  19. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Casino apologist
    Location:
    England
    Actually, RTG has been generally considered one of the fairest softwares for a long time now, so where the above statement comes from I have no idea. There is little to no controversy regarding fair play at RTG. Fair PAY - now that's another matter.

    Regarding showing a casino's win/loss rate: does one consider that a handful of hands posted shows this? If I post a hundred hands from Casino X, will this tell you anything about the overall casino payout? Of course not - it'll show you the payout I received over those hundred hands.

    This matter is currently becoming rather exaggerated.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2004
  21. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Caruso if you ever have any doubt about anything that I might post here at the Casinomeister website (or anywhere else for that matter) don't hesitate to let me know as I'm fully prepared to back up anything that I post with factual data.

    Lastly, there WAS a time that Realtime Gaming was considered to deal (if nothing else) a fair game of Blackjack. But I for one no longer believe that to be the case with more than a couple RTG casinos and with very good reason.

    One needs to look no further than your most recent post under "nightmare screenshots" to see why. The loss frequency of that type of "all in" double down especially at the Phoenician and Nostalgia has become the NORM rather than the EXCEPTION.
     
  22. Sep 4, 2004
  23. seanjohn

    seanjohn Banned User - Violation of posting rules

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    cipher
    could you please kindly share some of your thoughts on how to play RTG BJ in an advantageous way?
    like quit playing after dealer hits a 5 card 17...or increase bets after dealer wins X in a row

    i mean, up to this point you show nothing to support your allegation of the new RTG BJ being rigged, your strands and your strands alone without any explaination serves as nothing but an entailment that your system fails not necessarily because RTG is now rigged but only because your system was like all others...fail in the end naturally.
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2004
  24. Sep 4, 2004
  25. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Casino apologist
    Location:
    England
    Cipher, I'm not for a minute suggesting there is anything questionable about the accuracy of the figures you post from the programme - I would never question the integrity of an honest player, and I'm surprised you took it that way. What I am questioning is the interpretation of the figures, NOT their legitimacy. I believe you are looking for something that isn't their, patterns you can structure your betting around based on what you perceive the Cipher programme reveals. The patterns are there alright, but I would say they are pseudo-random, and not exploitable as such because they aren't repeating in a clearly-defined manner.

    And yes, the timing of that latest 21 suckout of mine was a bit ironic, in view of my comments in this thread and others.
     
  26. Sep 5, 2004
  27. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    I can tell you for sure Caruso I'm very happy to hear from you that what I thought I read was not in fact what I read. In any event before I read your most recent post I had already contacted the folks at Virtual to have them send me the log data files incident to my play of the last couple of days. So I've attached them in the event they may prove to be of benefit to anyone else. Have a good one.
     

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