Virtual = Acerevenue

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
In my thread last night I was able to link WinAsDealer to BeTheDealer so I got to wondering what I could find out about any possible relationship between The Virtual Casino Group and Acerevenue/Crystal Palace.


I found enough:


A WhoIs of TheVirtualCasino.com shows:

DOMAIN: THEVIRTUALCASINO.COM

RSP: Domain Directors Pty. Ltd.
URL:
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created-date: 2002-06-20 18:46:16
updated-date: 2010-02-11 10:03:23
registration-expiration-date: 2015-06-20 18:46:16

owner-organization:
owner-street: 7p7 officentro la sabana san jose
owner-city: san jose
owner-state: san jose
owner-zip: 10000
owner-country: CR



In addition, there another name that pops up. Etta James

Etta James
7p7 officentro la sabana
san jose

1000
CR
support@123bingoonline.com
1877-234-9283 (USA)
0808-238-0023 (UK)
www.123bingoonline.com




And now.....




drum roll please...




The
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shows the following for Acerevenue:

Phone: 1-888-731-2427
Email: press@acerevenue.com
Website: www.acerevenue.com
Address: Officentro La sabana
Edificio7. Piso7
San Jose
, san Jose 1000
Costa Rica
 

deucebag

Newbie member
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The fact that they rent office space in the same building doesn't really prove much. PartyGaming, 888 and Ladbrokes (among others) are in the same building in Gibraltar, for example.
 

jetset

RIP Brian
CAG
Nevetheless, Roanan is on the right track - it is known that Virtual took over the Crystal Palace brands (and rebranded them) when Warren Cloud snuffed it.

Etta James is an interesting name and a familiar one - it also belongs to a famous American blues singer!

From Google on the online gambling Etta James:

Casino Slots Games Reviewer - Online Casino Industry at Cirrus Casino
Gambling & Casinos | United States
Current:Casino Slots Games Reviewer - Online Casino Industry at Cirrus Casino, Online Slots Games Analyst at Cirrus Casino
Education:Citrus College
 

Casinomeister

Forum Cheermeister
Staff member
The bottom line is that Virtual and the Ace Revenue casinos use the same support, but they differ in brands and marketing. Gambling Wages for the Virtual group, Ace Revenue for the ex-Warren Cloud casinos.

So they differ in marketing and branding only. This is pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought).
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
The fact that they rent office space in the same building doesn't really prove much. PartyGaming, 888 and Ladbrokes (among others) are in the same building in Gibraltar, for example.
The bottom line is that Virtual and the Ace Revenue casinos use the same support, but they differ in brands and marketing. Gambling Wages for the Virtual group, Ace Revenue for the ex-Warren Cloud casinos.

So they differ in marketing and branding only. This is pretty much common knowledge (or so I thought).
Okay...

Still digging and I'm finding more:


Working with the address and variations thereof,

Officentro La sabana (The Savannah)
Edificio7, Piso7 (Building 7, Floor 7)
San Jose


I have found another company that is located there.
www.silverarrowmarketing.com

(Isn't SilverArrow associated with Gambling Wages?)

The trace of the IP address shows it also belonging to mail.prismcasino.com

On
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there's a post from the BET365 affiliate manager, Simon Eaton praising them and announcing job opportunities.

The IP address of silverarrowmarketing is also shared by icronex.com

Icronex lists as it's clients:
* Netsurfmedia
* Silver Arrow Marketing

and is located in Canada:

Icronex Media Ltd.
1300-1500, W Georgia Street
Vancouver BC, Canada V6G 2Z6
Tel: +1-604-689-9977
1-877-689-9977 (Toll free)
Fax: +1-866-728-5044


Also located at this address is:

Ace Revenue
Jessy Robins
1-877-689-9977
press@acerevenue.com
www.acerevenue.com
1300-1500, W Georgia Street
Vancouver BC, Canada V6G 2Z6



NetSurfMedia seems familiar to me yet I don't know why.

They are an England-based firm, and have a post on CM about it linking them to 'known rogue RTG casinos' and a trace of them confirms this.

It's registered to SilverArrow and the IP address is shared by mail.casinosupportcenter.com

casinosupportcenter.com is, of course, the domain server for The Virtual Group




....phew....I need a break....back with more soon, but there's a nice tangled web here so far
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
Now I know why Netsurf seemed familiar

They are listed as the owner of 123bingoonline and BingoKnights among others

The phone number for 123bingoonline and BingoKnights is shared with SlotsOfVegas


More connections among all these companies showing that this really is just one.
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
Doing all my traces and IP searches, one in particular has popped up:

69.72.144.130


This one IP address is shared by:

help4casino.com (redirects to prism)
mail.betroyalmarketing.com
mail.netsurfmedia.com
mail.prismpromos.com
ns1.123bingo.com
ns3.help4casino.com
pobox.prismaffiliate.com
mail.silverarrowmarketing.com


So this continues to directly tie TheVirtualGroup to Acerevenue


This also means that there are number of casinos that are involved with this company whether they realize it or not, including accredited casino Bet365, because they use Silver Arrow, but I've clearly shown that it's part of The Virtual Group
 

GGW Laurie

Well-Known Member
Doing all my traces and IP searches, one in particular has popped up:

69.72.144.130


This one IP address is shared by:

help4casino.com (redirects to prism)
mail.betroyalmarketing.com
mail.netsurfmedia.com
mail.prismpromos.com
ns1.123bingo.com
ns3.help4casino.com
pobox.prismaffiliate.com
mail.silverarrowmarketing.com


So this continues to directly tie TheVirtualGroup to Acerevenue


This also means that there are number of casinos that are involved with this company whether they realize it or not, including accredited casino Bet365, because they use Silver Arrow, but I've clearly shown that it's part of The Virtual Group
Damn good detective work on your part:thumbsup:
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
Okay, to sum up what we have so far:

There's an address in Costa Rica shared by:

The Virtual Casino Group (Prism, Cirrus, CoolCat, etc.)
Netsurf owned sites (123Bingo, BingoKnights)
Acerevenue

There's an address in Vancouver shared by:
Icronex Media Ltd.
AceRevenue

Icronex lists it's clients as:
Netsurfmedia
Silver Arrow Marketing

So Icronex works for The Virtual Group and shares space with AceRevenue.

Netsurf Media IS The Virtual Casino Group and is demonstrated by the telephone number for 123Bingo and BingoKnights also being the number for SlotsOfVegas

SilverArrow owns Gambling Wages (who market Virtual casinos) and is directly tied to companies that are tied to Acerevenue.

Silver Arrow is used by other casinos including ACCREDITED casino Bet365.
 

Dangerous53

Experienced Member
Ace Revenue, a fast growing Casino Affiliate Program, made their first public appearance during the gambling conference hosted in Budapest over the weekend of September 11th-13th, 2009. In addition to establishing themselves as major players in the online casino affiliate market, Ace Revenue was able to sign on some of the biggest names in the business as new partners and has created some high expectations for this new program in the months and years to come.
:lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:

From a PR found here:
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Icronex also is listed in India:

India
Icronex Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
122, Vipul Agora, M.G. Road
Gurgaon, India 122 002
Board: +91-124-466 39 00
HR: +91-124-466 39 04
Fax: +91-124-466 39 07
 
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Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
So Icronex works for The Virtual Group and shares space with AceRevenue
I amend this to read:

Icronex is part of The Virtual Group as indicated by them sharing IP addresses and mail server with SilverArrowMarketing


Virtual/SilverArrow share space with Acerevenue in Costa Rica and Icronex share space with AceRevenue in Vancouver.


I also think I can stop using the 'share space' analogy as I have clearly linked these companies.
 

jod5413

Is That Better?
All these nefarious connections are worrisome. I know I am being somewhat silly, but I really wish the USA would "get on board" and make all this stuff legal. It would sure slow down the bad guys.
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
I'm continuing to look into this.

Today I have discovered the IP address 209.62.28.26

It is shared by:

acerevenue.com
affiliateevaluator.com
catseyecasino.com
clubplayercasino.com
content.acerevenue.com
content.gwages.com
goldstreamcasino.com
uckypalmcasino.com
news.silveroakcasino.com
partycitycasino.com
ringmastercasino.com
royalacecasino.com
silveroakcasino.com
acerevenue.com
affiliateevaluator.com
cirruscasino.co.uk
cirruscasino.com
cirruscasino.net
clubplayercasino.com
coolcat-casino.com
coolcatcasino.com
goldstreamcasino.com
luckypalmcasino.com
palaceofchance.com
ringmastercasino.com
rtgaffiliate.com
silveroakcasino.com
slotsofvegas.com
wildvegascasino.com
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
Whoa!!!!!!



Let's add something new into the mix:


Mighty Slots


The rogue pit shows them as being operated by Curgam Malta


My research has discovered that they are actually owned by:

Doleplex Trading ltd.,
4th floor,
5 Costis Palamas Street,
Nicosia 1305,
Cyprus


Doleplex owned some of the Crystal Palace casinos (VegasFrontier, Silver Sands, Casino Peru, etc)

Crystal Palace is now Acerevenue

I have already proved Acerevenue and The VirtualGroup are, if not the same company, then certainly in bed together.


Therefore:

VIRTUAL = ACEREVENUE = MIGHTY SLOTS


Rogues within rogues within rogues
 

RobWin

closed account
Whoa!!!!!!



Let's add something new into the mix:


Mighty Slots


The rogue pit shows them as being operated by Curgam Malta


My research has discovered that they are actually owned by:

Doleplex Trading ltd.,
4th floor,
5 Costis Palamas Street,
Nicosia 1305,
Cyprus


Doleplex owned some of the Crystal Palace casinos (VegasFrontier, Silver Sands, Casino Peru, etc)

Crystal Palace is now Acerevenue

I have already proved Acerevenue and The VirtualGroup are, if not the same company, then certainly in bed together.


Therefore:

VIRTUAL = ACEREVENUE = MIGHTY SLOTS


Rogues within rogues within rogues
Here's you a little more info Roanan regarding "Cleopatras Palace Casino" and how they too tie in to all of these other connections you are describing here....

Keep up your great work on this buddy...:thumbsup:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/casino-complaints-non-bonus-issues/31683-cleopatras-palace-casino-cleopatraspalacecasino-com-2.html#post322001

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/casino-complaints-non-bonus-issues/31683-cleopatras-palace-casino-cleopatraspalacecasino-com-3.html#post322049

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Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
For me it was just about proving connections after I helped Max do it with BeTheDealer and WinAsDealer.

That got me to thinking who my 'favourite' casinos were connected to.

Seeing how RTG rogues pop up so often, I thought seeing if they're connected would be worth a shot.

I guess it was because it seems that they all are.
 

Tengil

Senior Member
I just gave up and left that one the hell alone after the response I received, but thanks for recognizing my effort there spiderlegz, much appreciated...:)
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Its actually sad that individual affiliates gets jumped on for promoting rogue/bad casinos and when someone criticize GPWA its always hushed away.

Even if the programs are just sponsors many affs probably think its okay to go with them as in fact they recommend them IMO with their warm welcomes and "reviews".
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
I noticed in that thread that the AceRevenue rep stated that 90% of their work is done in the Vancouver office.


Hmm....


I think I'll pay them a visit later this week.

This isn't Costa Rica. I'm pretty sure I won't get roughed up by thugs if I do.
 
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