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VIP cuts me off when I'm winning

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by steversee, Sep 10, 2005.

    Sep 10, 2005
  1. steversee

    steversee Dormant account

    Location:
    coast
    I lost 26k today at VIP, but when I win (I've done well other times at VIP) they cut me off at about 10k. anyone else experience this??
     
  2. Sep 10, 2005
  3. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    dont let KK see this...he'll have a heart attack!
     
  4. Sep 10, 2005
  5. raol

    raol Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Sweden
    What do you mean when you say that they "cut you off"?? Disconnects or what?
     
  6. Sep 10, 2005
  7. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    :confused: They shut you down when you're on a streak.. yet you gave them 26k today? At your level of play, I'm sure that you can find a casino that'll treat you better than that.
     
  8. Sep 11, 2005
  9. largeeyes

    largeeyes Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    North America
    GEZUS! Take your play to any strip casino and get airfare and hotel and all that jazz......
     
  10. Sep 11, 2005
  11. steversee

    steversee Dormant account

    Location:
    coast
    They don't let me play that game any more - I get a 'this game is unavailable' error message. Usually I can go back to the same game a few days later, but not while I'm hot.
     
  12. Sep 11, 2005
  13. players

    players Dormant account

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    nyu
    Play at casino on net. I have won alot from them. Only bad thing is you have to wait 5 days for a cash out.
     
  14. Sep 11, 2005
  15. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

    Occupation:
    programmer
    Location:
    UK

    Is this VIP Casino (Intercasino) or VIP Casinos?

    either way sounds like they don't deserve your business.

    Try Ladbrokes, you will be MUCH better treated.
     
  16. Sep 11, 2005
  17. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

    Location:
    Haverhill
    I will personally guarantee you that they aren't stopping you from playing a negative expectation game just because you are on a "hot streak".
     
  18. Sep 12, 2005
  19. rj314

    rj314 Webmaster

    I was at the Casino Affilaite Convention today and brought up this thread to the people at VIP. They said this is some automatic trigger that shuts the game down when a player wins, I think it is $8,000. It shuts that one game down for 2 days, but you can play other games. I asked why they would do this, and their answer was that it is to protect the "problem gambler". Uhm, but you don't "protect" him when he loses $26,000?

    I don't understand what they are thinking, but you might consider 32Red which has a $5000 limit on blackjack, and they pay a cashout usually within 24 hours.
     
  20. Sep 12, 2005
  21. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    If thats true they suck...... :cool:
     
  22. Sep 12, 2005
  23. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    If you want to protect the problem gambler... shut him down after a certain amount of losses in a particular day. Why shut him down when he's doing great? This kind of reasoning makes no sense at all given the fact that they never stopped a guy from losing 26k in a day.
     
  24. Sep 12, 2005
  25. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    I wonder sometimes if it makes sense to spend 26k :eek2: online when they will treat you like a king at a landbased casino.
     
  26. Sep 12, 2005
  27. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    True, but maybe he can afford to lose 26K everyday. Some people prefer to gamble in private and forego all the fluff and hoopla at the brick and mortars. To each his own I guess! :cheers:
     
  28. Sep 12, 2005
  29. Weedlayer

    Weedlayer Dormant account

    Occupation:
    tradesman
    Location:
    US11
    I still can't tell whether this thread is about You must register/login in order to see the link. (Cryptologic), or You must register/login in order to see the link. (IGW).
     
  30. Sep 12, 2005
  31. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK

    But live you don't have to deal with this shit like cutting you off when you winning.....:puke:

    If it's Cryptologic VIP casino am not impressed.
     
  32. Sep 13, 2005
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    That makes a lot of sense actually - someone who keeps on winning is a huge problem - for the casino!! :D

    I would eat my hat if this is VIP (Crypto) - not even they would pull such a stupid trick. This is almost certainly some other low-life outfit.
     
  34. Sep 13, 2005
  35. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    thats the kind of BS i have come to expect from some casinos (and sportsbook & pokerrooms aswell). the simple fact is that casinos are paranoid creatures and i'm sure they are locking you out while they are investigating nothing untoward is happening.

    from a sportsbook perspective in the uk, if you have a large winning bet they will conduct an investigation and will usually cough up within 3 days, however if your bets are so large that this regularly happens, then the bookie will make arrangements to prevent this happening all the time.

    maybe you could ask VIP do a similiar thing for you as it does appear that you are a high roller, and judging by some of the threads on here recently, that although MG casinos cant interfere with the actual game, there is certain aspects of control over the software they do have.

    if VIP are unwilling to do this, then this raises certain questions, i guess the most important one from everyones point of view, is this function of the software because the theory of software being streaky is actually fact and not a theory.

    the other question is, if this is in place to protect problem gamblers, then why doesnt it stop at a similar amout when your losing ?
     
  36. Sep 14, 2005
  37. bing

    bing Dormant account

    Location:
    California
    He is talking about VIP Casino that uses Cryptologic Software. Same thing happens at Omni casino and I would venture to say any Cryptologic Casino. You can win 4 hands in a row at max bet(if you are playing higher table limits in the $xxxx's) and it will become game unavailable for about a 24 hour period. The only workaround to this is if you were playing single player blackjack at 500-5000 spread and won four $5000 hands in a row and get cut off, you could then move on to the multiplayer blackjack game or the multihand blackjack game and continue playing until you win more max bets in a row and then get cut off again. I spoke to Daryl I believe at Omni Casino regarding this, and he said it is to protect the casino and is a common feature among all the online casinos out there(that I dont believe as it has never happened to me at Acropolis and 32red who take large bets and dont cut you off when you are winning). In my opinion it is a very shady thing to do as it does not work both ways. If you are going to cut me off when I win $20,000 in 4 hands you need to cut me off when I lose $20,000 in 4 hands. But nothing you can really do to stop this behaviour except limit your play with them.
     
  38. Sep 14, 2005
  39. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    my apologies to the MG vip lot.

    and a thumbs up to this daryl guy at omni for his honesty.

    personally i dont think this is to shady, as all forms of gambling tend to have some kind of house limit or winnings cap. but as i said most places will usually come to some kind of arrangement to accomodate you if it is something that happens regularly.

    what does surpise me is that this is the crypto VIP casino, i thought they were meant to cater for the "high roller" ?
     

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