Video slots refuse to verify my account 4 days and absolutely nothing getting done

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I'm not wrong, but feel free to explain exactly how I am, including links to some legislation to back up your claims. You are welcome to read up on the tipping off rules to see why Videoslots may have a perfectly legitimate reason not to say outright what they suspect.
I didn't know you had seen all the documentation to be able to say theres no evidence to say there is any fraud taking place.
Videoslots are under no obligation to explain to the customer why they suspect fraud, if they do that it would allow criminals to adjust how they do things. No different to if your bank closes your account suspecting fraud, they will not tell you how they came to that conclusion.
There are red flags all through this thread that something wasn't right and I knew what was eventually going to happen. I will also predict, the only way the OP will have any slim chance of getting his winnings is by going to court, but I'll put money on that doesn't happen.
So out of interest, what experience do you have in this field to give advice?
i already did explain im not anymore ok thank you
 

xxxxwildingxxxx

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hello there's not any evidence as their, that baz has been given, any they haven't referred him to the terms if the suspect fraudulent? what i was saying is they referred him to (Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to:) and underneath this it carries on the terms and gives example he has to guess because he doesn't know does he which terms apply thats what im saying, well they are able to refer him to the correct terms and they haven't directly
 

xxxxwildingxxxx

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I'm not wrong, but feel free to explain exactly how I am, including links to some legislation to back up your claims. You are welcome to read up on the tipping off rules to see why Videoslots may have a perfectly legitimate reason not to say outright what they suspect.
I didn't know you had seen all the documentation to be able to say theres no evidence to say there is any fraud taking place.
Videoslots are under no obligation to explain to the customer why they suspect fraud, if they do that it would allow criminals to adjust how they do things. No different to if your bank closes your account suspecting fraud, they will not tell you how they came to that conclusion.
There are red flags all through this thread that something wasn't right and I knew what was eventually going to happen. I will also predict, the only way the OP will have any slim chance of getting his winnings is by going to court, but I'll put money on that doesn't happen.
So out of interest, what experience do you have in this field to give advice?
my advise was good i stand by it, it was advise on the fact that this case he has is non fraudulent but you keep suspecting that it is, my main point which you didn't pick up on ironically , was that VS haven't linked him to the correct terms directly they said this (Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to: ) and underneath there is several terms and it keep going, its unreasonable from VS to issue him terms that many could apply for all he knows. and you mention you didn't know i seen the documents to say there no evidence sarcastically, ok let me put this on you same question i didnt know there was evidence to say this was fraudulent, its reasonable to act like its not a fraudulent case when there no reason for baz to suggest it is , so thats why i advised him on asking relevant questions , you don't act on something you don't know you keep with relevant until you learn the truth im no expert but i stand by what i say, i think your the unreasonable one truthfully
 

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the point is they should refer to correct terms , otherwise my advise is good until he learns the truth, then i agreed with your advise but untill VS be it more reasonable then he should act accordingly, your info is majority correct but not relevant ,there is no evidence of your claims , i dont know whtis is a guess when they suspect fraudulent they should issue the correct terms bare in mind they issued terms in a snide way
 

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yeah and my point still stand, the terms are not directly linked, he has several terms to choose from VS referred to this only (Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to:), so until its clear. 1. i gave advise that he should ask to get as much as information as possible, because once a complaint is done the decision can be final, and you don't have a claim then, I'm not sure about PAB though, so yes he should continue to get the relevant information 2. there is no evidence he has fraudulent activity, and VS should issue direct terms to such claims if this is the case, 3. my advise still stands, he has chosen to do PAB i have no experience about so let him do this and hope he can get this resolved, 4. and just because an experienced member has commented about it does qualify them more correct over me, 5. actually i think hes wrong video slots should refer him baz to the correct terms directly on point, otherwise there not being fair, and also i agree with him did you not read all that if it is fraudulent then i understand the casino is limited with communication and the case, but there a point which all seem to miss, 6. VS need to refer him to the relevant terms and not refer to several terms so he can guess, its wrong my points are made on the basis its non fraudulent, no evidence is suggesting it is because he hasn't been advised in the correct way which is unfair, so actually when 7. you said im talking bollox i return the gesture.

1. VS or any other Casino will not give out information to a player, as to why an account has been flagged and/or closed, this is why he has been told to take it to ADR or PAB. The reason is this could give information to others to try and bypass KYC/SOW.

This was explained to you by seasoned members here, along with members that actually works for Casinos, yet you have been a member for 4 days and think you know better.

2. How do you know there is no evidence?. Plus they would not give him any evidence anyway, that would only be disclosed to an ADR/PAB and he would never no details.

3. Your advice is still bollox.

4. It does when multiple members tell you that you are incorrect.

5. More bollox

6. VS do not have to give him the exact reason, the terms they gave him are standard casino wide (surely you would know this being the expert, that you seem to think you are?). Saying it's not fair is just LOLOLOL) You have no idea weather it's due to fraudulent activities or not, so your point is mute away.

7. Yes i did and from your new posts above you still are. Theres no point you being involved with a forum as you seem to only believe what you post and are giving incorrect advice to other members. AKA Talking bollox.
 
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my advise was good i stand by it, it was advise on the fact that this case he has is non fraudulent but you keep suspecting that it is, my main point which you didn't pick up on ironically , was that VS haven't linked him to the correct terms directly they said this (Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to: ) and underneath there is several terms and it keep going, its unreasonable from VS to issue him terms that many could apply for all he knows. and you mention you didn't know i seen the documents to say there no evidence sarcastically, ok let me put this on you same question i didnt know there was evidence to say this was fraudulent, its reasonable to act like its not a fraudulent case when there no reason for baz to suggest it is , so thats why i advised him on asking relevant questions , you don't act on something you don't know you keep with relevant until you learn the truth im no expert but i stand by what i say, i think your the unreasonable one truthfully
ok, so I've been involved in the gambling industry for 20+ years.
I am telling you with that experience, videoslots will not tell him what you want them to. That is wasting his time and will extend how long it takes to get to a conclusion. You said there is no evidence of fraud, to say that you must have seen what Videoslots have, or how can you say that? I knew which this way was going to go within his first few posts, and so did others on the thread.
Videoslots did direct him to the correct term, just because you don't understand that it doesn't mean it's wrong.
My advice was go through Videoslots complaints, then to the ADR.
I will put money on the PAB failing, not because I have seen the evidence, but I can tell how confident VS's are, and therefore, experience tells me, they have enough to win. His next option to that is go through internal complaints then to the ADR.
So you are telling him to waste a week or two asking them questions they have already refused to answer, and will continue to do.
Then he has to start from the point he is at today.
The ONLY chance he has to get answers is to issue a court summons and then it's likely to be disclosed in the pre action disclosures, otherwise Videoslot's are likely to lose.
 

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my advise was good i stand by it, it was advise on the fact that this case he has is non fraudulent but you keep suspecting that it is, my main point which you didn't pick up on ironically , was that VS haven't linked him to the correct terms directly they said this (Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to: ) and underneath there is several terms and it keep going, its unreasonable from VS to issue him terms that many could apply for all he knows. and you mention you didn't know i seen the documents to say there no evidence sarcastically, ok let me put this on you same question i didnt know there was evidence to say this was fraudulent, its reasonable to act like its not a fraudulent case when there no reason for baz to suggest it is , so thats why i advised him on asking relevant questions , you don't act on something you don't know you keep with relevant until you learn the truth im no expert but i stand by what i say, i think your the unreasonable one truthfully

Thats somewhat of an oxymoron.

More so after joining a specific casino/gambling forum, 4 days ago, which knows the industry inside out and telling us we are all wrong and you stand by your multiple posts giving incorrect advice, yet backing none of it up.
 

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1. VS or any other Casino will not give out information to a player, as to why an account has been flagged and/or closed, this is why he has been told to take it to ADR or PAB. The reason is this could give information to others to try and bypass KYC/SOW.

This was explained to you by seasoned members here, along with members that actually works for Casinos, yet you have been a member for 4 days and think you know better.

2. How do you know there is no evidence?. Plus they would not give him any evidence anyway, that would only be disclosed to an ADR/PAB and he would never no details.

3. Your advice is still bollox.

4. It does when multiple members tell you that you are incorrect.

5. More bollox

6. VS do not have to give him the exact reason, the terms they gave him are standard casino wide (surely you would know this being such an expert?. Saying it's not fair is just LOLOLOL) You have no idea weather it's due to fraudulent activities or not, so your point is mute away.

7. Yes i did and from your new posts above you still are. Theres no point you being involved with a forum as you seem to only believe what you post and are giving incorrect advice to other members. AKA Talking bollox.
you say the casino give a wide rang of terms no incorrect they gave him 1.14("Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to:") section which links him to several terms that it could be , so i know I'm right, and yes its not fair on baz for this, "lolololol as you say and also you mention there's no evidence isn't this what I've been saying all this time what a load of ballox your talking , if you say if there no evidence for fraudulent, so my point is mute anyway, well wouldn't you be of the same basis and example. if there no evidence, so people should not give reason and help , why are you trying then why dont you mention this to @colinsunderland , if you believe there no evidence and you think i shouldnt make a point if there no evidence what about you. oh this doesnt apply to you does it your own example, good one, theres no evedience so only i my help and advise is mute ok chief
 

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i give up on this thread soon the no reasonable discussion, read carfully what i put and dont make other assumptions. i believe i am more right on this thread you just need to go back and read
 

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you say the casino give a wide rang of terms no incorrect they gave him 1.14("Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to:") section which links him to several terms that it could be , so i know I'm right, and yes its not fair on baz for this, "lolololol as you say and also you mention there's no evidence isn't this what I've been saying all this time what a load of ballox your talking , if you say if there no evidence for fraudulent, so my point is mute anyway, well wouldn't you be of the same basis and example. if there no evidence, so people should not give reason and help , why are you trying then why dont you mention this to @colinsunderland , if you believe there no evidence and you think i shouldnt make a point if there no evidence what about you. oh this doesnt apply to you does it your own example, good one, theres no evedience so only i my help and advise is mute ok chief

I said. How do YOU know theres no evidence.

Maybe follow your own point and read carefully what i put.
 

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Thats somewhat of an oxymoron.

More so after joining a specific casino/gambling forum, 4 days ago, which knows the industry inside out and telling us we are all wrong and you stand by your multiple posts giving incorrect advice, yet backing none of it up.
you dont need to be an expert to give good advise ,its not contradictory at all , so i just said im no expert now your saying i know the industry in and out i think your tripping up more than me here and have the audacity to go on a me get a cuppa tea gaz and chill abit verbal advise doesnt need to be backed up wtf you on about
 

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i give up on this thread soon the no reasonable discussion, read carfully what i put and dont make other assumptions. i believe i am more right on this thread you just need to go back and read
Theres a surprise. Given questions you can't answer and you run away.
 

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i give up on this thread soon the no reasonable discussion, read carfully what i put and dont make other assumptions. i believe i am more right on this thread you just need to go back and read
You have a very similar behaviour like the op :)

If VS dont have any evidence, they will lose the PAB. I think its best to let Max handle it from here.
 

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ermm let me see oh i can tell you without checking you didnt say that get a cuppa

Just go and read my replies to you, your saying the opposite of what i actually said, on more than 1 point.

I can assure you that you know sweet FA about the industry, by your posts.

Maybe you dont need to be an expert to give good advice, but when you are not an expert and are told buy numerous people that your advice is incorrect and still state it as correct, you just look like a Muppet.
 

xxxxwildingxxxx

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what i will advise is read back what you said ,and you think im saying something different or disagreeing i cant keep repeating myself video slot should give him correct terms directly if there giving him terms at all they link him terms that could apply for many things 1.14Videoslots reserves the right, at its own discretion, to: i advised him on a non fraudulent case because he has no reason to believe it is. my advise is correct just because you mention things that are to do with fraudulent, i said i understand your point before but you must read what i said and not reffer my advise in connection to somthing that isnt relevant, he got the email today around 6 saying his deposits are blcok i just ask him to reply to email asking relevant questions if they come back and say they cant on that email then i would of advised furthur to the best of my abailty to help this man please dont think im suggest somthing that isnt relevant, what your saying @colinsunderland is mostly correct, but it has to be that case for it to apply and he doesn't know if it was in his interest to ask a few more question my advise would stand but he choose to do PAB
 
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