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A spreadsheet tracking results? Are you for real LOL! What? track the next draw discard and result x 20? This is VP. You have to keep moving. I'm not referencing slot machines.
I was right ...
A spreadsheet tracking results? Are you for real LOL! What? track the next draw discard and result x 20? This is VP. You have to keep moving. I'm not referencing slot machines.
You are correct... the casinos can't lose...in the long run...Precisely. The casino(s) can't lose... Despite this cast-iron fact, I keep going back to it
Thanks for posting - I was thinking the exact same thing.I cannot believe that . If this is really happening often it would be the proof that the game is not random .
Can you post links to other forums where people talk about that ?
I wonder why you are folding a pair of jacks or better and how often (lets say 100 times throwing away a pair of jacks or better ) you get the same after folding ????
Hello all, i found something strange past the years i been playing, but i have till now ignored this,
You see in video poker at least (Netent) if you get say 2 jacks, if you throw them away you will get jacks or better anyway, how can this be random?
Just play the minimum and try it for your self if you dont trust me.
I tested this on RTG and i got the same result, i folded the 222 and got 333, but this happens almost all the time on Netent.
I searched on internett and found lot of people saying exactly what i mean. so the video poker is like slot machines now?
So the machine thinks : i will give him back his bets no matter what?
You see in video poker at least (Netent) if you get say 2 jacks, if you throw them away you will get jacks or better anyway, how can this be random?
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The link is for NetEnt VP at Nordicbet. Those who want to try will quickly see that the OP is wrong.
Yeah, it will of course happen. Because it is random. But it does not happens "almost every time".
RTG
"Software provider also offering back-end casino management. The most profitable online casino solution on the net"
from Wiki
The company indicates that operators are able to choose between payout settings for their slots [8] and video poker games.(9)
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my quote
"seems to contradict claims from many casinos that they have no control over the performance of video poker games and that it serves no purpose or is in their best interest to do so." quote from Bodog and Club World
A quote from Online Casino Hero
Video poker machine, whether online or land-based, do not run “hot” or “cold.” If you hit a Royal Flush, your chances of getting one on the next play are as high as any other time.
If you’re going to play video poker online, take a little time and find the casinos with the best payouts. Most will be very comparable, but you should also keep things like sign-up bonuses in mind.
The cards in video poker are chosen at random. Don’t listen to anyone who says the games are rigged; they don’t know what they’re talking about.
With perfect play, video poker is one of the few games where the house edge can be negated.
" oh really"? I may not play optimally, but based on the above quote, I should have been able to play for many hours after hitting (3) 4 oaks in about a half hour friday night doubling my stake at Club World (yes rainmaker another whine and yes I had just touted Club World earlier in day). The RTP was performing nicely for another hour as it should at 95-99%, rolling down 35% from peak to 10-15% below peak etc. Than I hit the the 3rd one and it was over, a few full houses thrown in on the way down, another disaster.
Where they get you is curtailing 3 oaks which occur when the RTP is adjusted either by RTG itself on behalf of its customer or by the casino even during the current gaming session. It's also obvious by the change in card selection. After adjusting the payout to below 75% or less, you will see often just one face card on the draw and strings of other garbage during the session.
I still believe there is a VIRTUAL LOTTERY TERMINAL component to RTG software. Where if all the big wins are hit over a period of time they shut down to accumulate again. Big wins are also manufactured which adds to the experience. This is evident by 4 oaks and straight flushes on the draw (so rare) which you can get on RTG.
Bottom line RTG is sketchy, its VP is not truly random. You cannot play for a three hour period even with the proper bankroll for the denomination of choice in comparison to land based casinos.
Also they know they possess a virtual monopoly over the US market. Pretty much the only option. Vegas Tech? Another story altogether. At least with RTG you win some before they flip the switch and take it all.
....then without that or playlogs you are just guessing. We always tend to remember the bad things over the good things, and it might surprise you if you were to keep such records.
Anyway, the part I don't get is that one minute you say Bodog is rigged (because they tamper with the source code), and the minute you talk about how you're still playing there. Sorry, but it doesn't give your theory much teeth if you don't really believe it yourself.
IIRC Hero was a crooked casino and lied to not pay a player and they had their license revoked.
You can tell your VP pay by looking at the paytable right before your eyes. Compare the same game on several RTG casinos and you just might find a full pay machine.
I don't know how they adjust slots but I'm sure somebody else here does.
I'm not talking about the paytable. You do know the difference between RTP and the pay out table right?
I'm not talking about the paytable. You do know the difference between RTP and the pay out table right?
There is no difference if the game is honest.
Stop posting here and call 1-800-GAMBLER. You have a problem. Admitting it is the first step.
that's not nice. I'm always taken aback when one online gambler accuses another online gambler of having a "gambling problem".
we all have problems to varying degrees, and some of our problems involve gambling;
but one heroin user calling out another is just not good form (even if the other user happens to use heroin less "responsibly")
A tin foil hat could be used to chase the dragon I suppose.
I think we gamblers all carry some superstitions. My husband had dozens of little quirks and rituals and he was a very intelligent and knowledgeable man. Maybe its better to educate than censure and barring that pity or at least show compassion.
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When we become delusional about our unfounded beliefs and start to see what we expect to see in the vast ocean of random numbers a little reality check from others who are familiar with the game can be a good thing.
If droves of disillusioned gamblers add their voices to each other's it could be confusing for the uneducated or unsure. It would annoy me and I would drop out. The machine is either a VP terminal or it is a slot machine and I'm pretty sure the likes of Wizard of Odds, and sharp players over the years have already determined what it is.