VERY INTERESTING!!!!!

[prismpitboss]

mrracetrack, when an e-mail is sent to our support there is an auto reply is always sent.

Who is your e-mail provider? @???.com

Thanks,

John

 

[prismpitboss]

jinnia, do you have a problem if I send casinomeister a snap shot of your account?

Thanks,

John

 

[jinnia]

prismpitboss,

I have no problem with you sending him my accounts History.

 

[mrracetrack]

"mrracetrack, when an e-mail is sent to our support there is an auto reply is always sent.

Who is your e-mail provider? @???.com.."

john, here is another e-mail I sent to Prism that never was responded to... valerie@prismpromos.com
(requesting to be removed from Prism's mailing list)

My e-mail provider is Compuserve. ( @cs.com )

 

[prismpitboss]

Mrrace, could you send me an e-mail?

john@prismcasino.com

Thanks

John

 

[jinnia]

casinomeister,

you're going to shoot me .. the emails I've sent .. disregard, I sent wrong files .. I'm now sending you my bank statement.

I just hope you read this before more mail hits you, might overload your box.

So sorry -- thank you!

 

[mrracetrack]

Jinnia posted... "the emails I've sent .. disregard, I sent wrong files...I just hope you read this before more mail hits you, might overload your box..."

OH NO!! You didn't send that "naughty pictures" file AGAIN, did you??

:rofl:

 

[jinnia]

Ha ha, you such a funny funny man. But actually, yes I did, I'm sorry, now meister is going to REALLY know you mrracetrack .. Attach Removed (Old not found)

 

[jinnia]

First to:

John Shepard (Prismpitboss),

I want to apologize for all the hell I've caused you and the name calling to the degree I have done. I just got through going through all my papers from the bank, and the ones that was printed out and charges marked off by bank employee as 'unauthorized' wasn't matching up as I went.

So I loaded in my old hard-drive and recovered the text files from my Prism History account. Then started all over again.

I stated there were 71 'unauthorized' charges. (May and June) Well, I couldn't match the dates of deposits with the dates on my statement, so I matched dollar amount to dollar amount for June. Getting all dollar amounts matching (though dates were off), that shows in my History marked off.

Though there is still 29 'unauthorized' (unexplained) charges for June, I still apologize for lying about how many.

I should have checked all papers myself instead of just trusting what was on bank papers. For this, I am truly sorry!

I'm not going to do anything about May or August, unless you want to me to go through them..? If so, just say, I will.

Thank You and I am sorry!
Debi

 

[jinnia]

Second :

Casinomeister,

I want to apologize to you also for making your forum a battle ground and for lying to you about the amount of 'unexplained' charges, I am truly sorry meister!

You should have all the information now, sent by email just before coming here to apologize to all of you.

As with you, if you're just wanting to know about May and August charges, say so, I'll go through them, or send to you.

Again, I am really sorry!!
Debi

 

[jinnia]

Now, for the rest of you:

I want to apologize to all of you for making this forum that you probably consider home a battle ground. I lied about the amount of 'unauthorized' (unexplained) charges, and made too big an issue here for all to see/read.

I really should have thought a little more and looked over the papers instead of just accepting them for how they were filled out and not reacted so fast. for this, I apologize to all of you.

I am sorry!
debi

 

[mrracetrack]

PrismPitboss John...

I have received the e-mail you sent me.

 

[prismpitboss]

casinomeister, I'm sending the account info today.

Thanks,


John

 

[jpm]

Jinnia, its only a lie if you said it to mislead us, not if you made a mistake in counting them up. I believe you just made a mistake, and thanks for having the integrity to come forward publicly to correct it.

 

[bewitch]

jpm, well saying. Wish I can come out the words as yours.
Jinnia, I believe you are a very straight person. Hope meister will help things out between Prism and you. After all, there are still a lot of unauthorized charges.

I am still waiting for the $500 "refund" from EZTP.NET. sigh....

Good luck and my best wish to you!

 

[jinnia]

jpm,

Thank you. It's kind for you to say that. I appreciate it.


bewitch,
Thank you. You have been very kind to me all along the way, it's appreciated.

I couldn't find my snap shots the other day, but I have since found all.
I'm not going to yell and clog up this forum with posts on that matter, but I am talking about it .. grin

You've not heard one word from EZTP.NET?

Do what you've got to do.

I wouldn't do it, but as spearmaster said:
((I don't believe in chargebacks either - but in some very extreme cases, where there is no where else to go, that is the only option available.))

I almost agree with him on that myself right now.

But from my understanding, if you use a regular charge card, you can do a 'charge back', if a bankcard is used, you can not.

But remember, if you do charge backs, your name gets put somewhere (maybe jpm, meister can say where), and then you may have problems depositing at other casinos.

Thank you bewitch. I wish you luck!


**So that's another thing that needs to be brought to players attention: Do Not use a bankcard to deposit with online casinos, for if a problem comes around about unauthorized charges, you can not do charge backs, bankcards are handled differently, so if you can't settle with the casino you're out the money, unless your bank will reimburse you by you filing fraud forms.**

 

[bewitch]

"What A Headache" LOL!
I use Citi bank issue Mastercard. EZTP said there nothing they can do (???) since they already issue a refund on 8/8! My bank said the refund never arrive (???). So EZTP tell me to go ahead to charge back!!! What a mess? Along the way, the ladydream didn't help but lock my account and won't pay my winning. Not too surprise after knowing they are the evil one.

However, EZTP double charge me at June ( 2 x $500) instead of reund. My bank dispute $500 for me and now I want them to dispute another $500 since EZTP "suggest" me to do charge back.

Basically I am done with online gambling. It's just too much stress for me. Money is not a problem here. It's the headache to deal with it.

Good luck. Make sure get all your money back. I am the witness here and watching Prism following his promise!

 

[linda7]

Well, I might as well toss my problem into the mix here and maybe someone can give me a suggestion on how to deal with it. I signed up with Grand Hotel Casino (Meister, if you remeber I wrote to you in the beginning of this issue) the next thing I knew my account was locked. I called and asked why, and they said that a "Laurence Lieber" owed them money. Laurence Lieber is my ex=husband, we divorced on February 9, 1999. Now here is the interesting part, I wrote to them, explained that we have been divorced, and that I used to reside at the address that Laurence used, but I do not anymore.
I also offered to pay what was owed in order to "clean up" my name. They wrote to me that Laurence owes $2800, and if I would pay this amount, provide proof of my divorce, and proof of my new address, they would re-open my account. I replied that I would agree to all of their terms, however, I needed a detailed breakdown of the $2800, so I could give it to my lawyer and he could get my reimbursement from my ex. Grand Hotel replied "we cannot provide you with this information, since you were not the one who made the charges"! Now lets make sure we are all on the same page here....they want me to pay for charges I did not make, and will not provide me with any concrete info that these charges were ever even made. If I do not have something in writing to submit to my lawyer saying that I paid money for charges incurred by Laurence, and a detailed breakdown of when these charges were done, I am out $2800. Any ideas out there?
Thanks, Linda

 

[jpm]

Hi Linda, what I can't figure out is how they connect you to him? You said you used to live at the address he used, so I assume you used your current address when you signed up.

Did you ask when these charges were made and how it is that he 'owes' them $2800? The only way I could see that is if he charged back all that money (its not like they extend credit at these places!). In any case, if these charges were made after you were divorced, then they have NO reason to require you to pay and you have no obligation to. And if I were you, I wouldn't.

Grand Hotel is just another MG viper casino, and if you really want to play there games, there are at least 1/2 dozen places I can think of right off the top of my head for you to play the same exact games. I'm sure there's another 1/2 dozen that I didn't think of too.

One thing you may want to do though is check with proccyber (insist upon speaking to a manager!) and see if that is where this problem comes from. If it is then you'll need to clear things up with them before you can play at virtually any MG casino. If you don't, you'll have NOTHING but headaches.

 

[bewitch]

Oh, Dear Linda. You are so nice to offer to pay off. But please don't let yourself get into trouble. It's really a headache to deal with the mess.

Good news to share here. My bank dispute department just called me and said they already pay me the $500 back today! (Yah!)

They will go after EZTP's bank and deal with them. They submit all the information I provided to EZTP's bank and give me $500 credit first! I told the lady it's EZTP told me to charge back so I can get my money back and she said similar situation happened before. The merchant has problem to credit back the customer and have to use charge back to "refund" the money!

I am sure happy, but I am also concerned here... Will my bank force me to pay them $500 if EZTP refuse to pay the bank? All the information I have is the email from EZTP and print out from DirectNetPay. It show it should be $500 charge and $500 refund on June.

I never do any charge back (only one time when I lost my wallet 5 years ago and credit card company did on their own for us). So I really don't know what will hapeen next step. Any advise? Thanks!

 

[linda7]

Hi JPM,
Thank Goodness I do not have any problems with Proc-Cyber, as I have cashed out with them via other casinos. When I divorced, I was awarded the house, last year I sold it and bought a 3 family home, since it would bring in extra income with the 2 rental apartments. Because of memory problems, I keep a journal. I was told by Grand Hotel that my EX signed up with Vegas Joker (i hope I have that name right) on May 29, 2003 and used my computer and my home address. I checked my journal, and it was on that day that I had broken my right foot and in desperate need of someone to watch the kids, I let that creep into my home. Apparently, he still gets kicks out of abusing me, and he must have done a chargeback after playing. However, they did tell me that on this day in particular it was a $100 charge and I thought this was how much I would be forced to pay, since it was done from my computer. So when they said $2800 I was still willing to pay, however, I need proof to present to my attorney. They refuse to provide me with this as I stated above. Since, I did not make the charges, I also did not feel responsible to pay for them. I just dont want my name associated with his. He was not a nice man when we were married and I can see he has not changed his ways. BTW, I have since obtained a court order and he is not allowed to set foot on my property.

 

[linda7]

Dear Bewitch:
I am so happy you got your money. I wish I could give you advice on the chargeback, but I have not done any so I do not know if this can cause you a problem. But since they told you to do it, and I hope you have it in writing, then hopefully there will be no problems.

Linda ((((hugs))))

 

[cipher]

Hi Linda;

I've been wondering how you are doing.

Linda, under no circumstances should you pay any amount of money to these clowns. If they have a beef with Laurence that's their problem. I would suggest that you email these clowns and insist that your account be un-locked and immediately remove any money on account.

If they give you even the slightest bit of problem email me and let me know. But again, DO NOT PAY Laurence's debt under any circumstances.

There are very serious consequences involved in paying other peoples debts. Not the least of which is the fact that you could be opening yourself up to being contingently liable for other debts of Laurences. Have a good one.

Cipher

 

[linda7]

Dear Cipher:
Thank you so very much for helping me in this situation. I will definitely take your advice and not pay Laurence's debt. I am so glad I posted my problem, as I have been debating this issue in my mind for a few weeks. Grand Hotel locked me out before I even made a deposit, so I do not have money in their casino. I was just shocked that I was locked out, as this was the first time I was ever locked out of a casino.

Thank you once again Cipher for sharing your knowledge with me and for your offer to help. You are a very nice person.

Linda (((hugs)))

 

[jinnia]

((bewitch)) Will my bank force me to pay them $500 if EZTP refuse to pay the bank?))

bewitch,

If your bank paid you the monies as a 'Provisional' credit, there is a waiting period before it becomes yours, so to give eztp (or whoever) a chance to dispute it. If there is no dispute or any proof shown during that waiting period that the money is not owed you. Then it's yours. You should get a letter from your bank at that time telling you, 'the funds remains yours'.

But if proof is shown to the bank it's not owed you, the bank withdraws it.