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Vegas Slot Casino spamming?

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by Dangerous53, Mar 3, 2010.

    Mar 3, 2010
  1. Dangerous53

    Dangerous53 Experienced Member

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    Received spam today that leads to Vegas Slot Casino, (accredited, Mini Vegas Group) it's a redirect through tre.emv3.com, and it lands at www2.vegasslotcasino.com/ but oddly enough there is no affiliate ID attached to the url. Is there another way of tracking redirects I don't know about?

    Clicking reply sends me to supportATvegasslotcasino.com, but all links in the mail are redirects through tre.emv3.com. A whois of the originating IP resolves to Emailvision and a further search turned up numerous reports of spam from the sites associated with tre.emv3.com, leading to other MVG casinos.

    The lack of an affiliate ID leads me to believe this campaign is being run by the casino itself, or someone hired to do it for them. Nobody spams for free do they? Perhaps the forum rep would like to shed some light on this.

    They did have my full name and email address, and I have never signed up at any Mini Vegas Group casino that I can remember.
     
  2. Mar 3, 2010
  3. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Some affiliates are getting clever by disguising their tags. They know that if the tag can be extracted from a spam, the casino affiliate scheme knows who is responsible when a complaint is made.

    There are "other ways";) of extracting the affiliate tag though, even if it is cloaked in the spam itself. Using a redirect site means the tag does not have to be present in the spam link itself, but can be added by the redirect site before forwarding to the casino site itself.

    The "other way" can also detect whether there is an affiliate tag in the first place, and if there is none, then it IS a marketing push bought directly by the casino itself, so the casino can reasonably be held responsible by contracting the work out to a spammer.
     
  4. Mar 3, 2010
  5. Dangerous53

    Dangerous53 Experienced Member

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    I know they use redirects so you can't actually see the AffId in the email, but usually the ID shows up in the url when you land at the casino's site. When these redirect links were clicked, they landed at Vegas Slot with no AffId on the end of the url, just the parent site address, www2.vegasslotcasino.com/. Is it possible it's redirecting through another site that's registering the AffId, then forwarding to the site without an ID?
     
  6. Mar 3, 2010
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    I believe the Affid is stored in a cookie in your browser, normally, this would be done by the casino site itself, but maybe the redirect site drops the cookie, and then removes the tag from the URL. The tag would still be picked up by the installer, and stored in the registry, which is where you will find it;)
     
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  8. Mar 4, 2010
  9. Dangerous53

    Dangerous53 Experienced Member

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    Ah, like this reg entry under HKCU/Software/MGS/Thumper/Casino/vegasslot?

     
  10. Mar 4, 2010
  11. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Yes, but that doesn't look like an affiliate tag. It would take an affiliate for this group to confirm whether this is the format, but I doubt it.

    This looks like it was not tracked to an affiliate, so maybe this IS a direct marketing buy by the casino, who have tasked the company to send the mailer to it's mailing lists. If you have not subscribed to these lists, this is indeed spamming.
     

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