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    Nov 5, 2003
  1. rainman

    rainman Dormant account

    any one know about vegas red. they are playtech associated with casino tropez.offering a 200percent bonus on first deposit.
     
  2. Nov 5, 2003
  3. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Avenel, New Jersey
    As you can see the bonus CANNOT be withdrawn.
    I read this deep down in the T&C's and i phoned them just to be sure.

    [color=ff0000]All PLAY BONUS credits are for wagering purposes only. (No withdrawal will be honored for an amount less than the PLAY BONUS. Upon your FIRST withdrawal (regardless of the number of deposits), any amount up to the equivalent value of the PLAY BONUS will be deducted from your play balance or winnings prior to settlement. The first credits wagered will be deducted from your deposit(s) rather than from the PLAY BONUS).
    [/color]
     
  4. Nov 5, 2003
  5. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Location:
    Home, sweet home
  6. Nov 5, 2003
  7. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    You can't meet the wagering requirements playing blackjack or blackjack switch. VP was ok though. Save a copy of the T&C before you start if you want to cover yourself. And when you cashin, subtract the bonus from your bankroll amount and only w/d that amount. If you try to w/d any part of the bonus, it will reject it.
     
  8. Nov 7, 2003
  9. rainman

    rainman Dormant account

    I should have known they are trying to cheat me. wont let me withdraw my deposit. Avoid this one at all costs they dont honor their rules. Another rogue. I even asked nick from the chat service and told me i could withdraw my deposit at my own discretion.
     
  10. Nov 7, 2003
  11. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Location:
    Home, sweet home
    I had the same issue about the original deposit. Thier T&C says you can withdrawal the deposit anytime, not the bonus. But they email reply told me I have to meet the wager requirement even my account was higher than the deposit + bonus. Who know how they EXPLAIN their own T&C????

    Rainman, is your account lower than $222 + your deposit? Good luck!
     
  12. Nov 8, 2003
  13. rainman

    rainman Dormant account

    yes it was lower but, I asked nick a cs rep before I put a dime in. He said you can withdraw your deposit at any time. I tried to do that and said I should try a lower amount and u did not meet the wr's. That contradicts nick's statement of withdrawing my deposit at any time. He even asked me if I read the rules and i said yes but wanted him to clarify them for me.I specifically asked him this before my deposit for I dont want to play at one that locks your deposit in before meeting wr's. I had cs rep julie check his chat session with me to verify this and she told me I should have been able to withdraw. I highly advise no one to play here for they dont honor their rules.
     
  14. Nov 8, 2003
  15. rainman

    rainman Dormant account

    casinomeister I hope they go in the rogues. Im sick and tired of online crooks!!!
     
  16. Nov 8, 2003
  17. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    Rainman, you must not have read this part of the terms & conditions:

    The first credits wagered will be deducted from your deposit(s) rather than from the PLAY BONUS).

    It really can't be any more clear. Since your balance was BELOW the amount of the bonus, then you already lost your deposit. That is why you can't withdraw, not because they are rogues.
     
  18. Nov 8, 2003
  19. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    BTW, I deposited $100 here last weekend, got the $222 bonus, wagered it more than the $2500+ wagering requirments playing video poker. Ended up with a profit of $300 over the $222 bonus.

    I withdrew the $300 on Sunday nite and today it was in my neteller account. That's close enough to the 4 day withdrawl period for me to be happy. It may have been delayed by a day because the needed proof of ID before they could process.

    Also, they left the bonus money in my account. They had said it will stay there until I lose it and it still is. Next step will be to try to win more with it and see what happens.
     
  20. Nov 8, 2003
  21. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Location:
    Home, sweet home
    Jpm,
    Glad to see you guys win and get paid. PLEASE win big with the $222. I am giving you the special power of witch's bless.... LOL
     
  22. Nov 9, 2003
  23. bantao

    bantao Dormant account

    Rainman...
    Casino Tropez is a very good casino voted highly at many places and to all my friens who played there made very good experience with it.
    Vegas Red is a sister casino and therfor should also be not too much different.
    I do not play the casino because I only like to play BlackJack. They dont allow BJ, so I dont go there. Also their term not to pay out bonus is stated.
    Some people play it anyway and just use the bonus as a buffer and win anyway. (Play the wager requirement and put all money left on a red/black bet on roulet).
     
  24. Nov 10, 2003
  25. breckboy

    breckboy Dormant account

    [color=ff0000]I say thumbs down on Vegasred. I have played at many many casinos online and this casino is by far the worst when it comes to odds. Have you ever lost so many hands in a row or spins in a row it was "funny"...well if you haven't go check out Vegasred. I personally put my stamp on Intercasino, Sands of the Car, and many other on the Meister's list. Too many casinos out there....steer clear of this one[/color]
     
  26. Nov 11, 2003
  27. rainman

    rainman Dormant account

    yup their bj at vr is rigged. intercasino is not as rigged as their bj.
     
  28. Nov 11, 2003
  29. rainman

    rainman Dormant account

    we need to face it. Online ones are rigged.
     
  30. Nov 11, 2003
  31. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Location:
    Home, sweet home
    Rainman, Any casino no matter online or land will be rigged to you if you kept trying to make money from them. The purpose is entertainment , fun and excitement. Winning is more "lucky" stuff. If you really want to make living out of this, you need professional help!!!

    Take a break from it if it really stress you out more than fun. Have a good one!
     
  32. Nov 11, 2003
  33. vgyhnji

    vgyhnji Experienced Member

    Slow down...

    So are traffic lights - at least the ones that always seem to be red when I'm in a hurry!!

    On the face of my gambling at Inter & VR I can't see how anyone ever beats Inter at BJ (in fact I could include all Crypto casinos here). But they obviously do unless all posters here tell fibs.

    As for VR I made a profit of $983 (over $12K turnover) playing VP with their 'sticky' bonus, so I think they are wonderful! - well no not really - how can I make a judgement on such a small snapshot of activity (and I'm yet to get paid!).

    Perhaps if I play enough BJ at Inter I will make it pay.

    Maybe if I go back to VR I will get busted.

    But either way my limited experiences don't entitle me to make an informed decision regarding the fairness or otherwise of either.
     
  34. Nov 11, 2003
  35. vgyhnji

    vgyhnji Experienced Member

    Missed of my end of message - should have read.

    'Best of luck whatever'
     
  36. Nov 11, 2003
  37. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Avenel, New Jersey
    vgyhnji...I posted the following on Nov.7th. We have not played there since because we won't get the NEW monthly bonus until Dec 1st. Reasassured, we will be there and we will win. :)
    I'll keep you up on this.

    My son and I played in Intercasino five times since they came out with this NEW bonus that you can claim each month.

    Other than the fact that they are sending us our PIN #'s via regular mail, the CS has been extremely courteous and very helpful.

    GREAT PLACE TO PLAY!!!

    Our total DEPOSITS added up to $385.00
    Our total PROFITS are $461.00
     
  38. Nov 11, 2003
  39. vgyhnji

    vgyhnji Experienced Member

    Lanidar - I like your confidence.

    I know I play solid game strategy, perhaps, if you have one? you could let me know your overall game plan & staking strategy against Crypto. (E-mail me direct if you'd rather not go public).

    Any help would be welcome in view of my losses against all Crypto casinos.

    (Personally I prefer to clean up at Boss - PS thanks to Pharaohs for the latest donation!)

    Best of luck to all.
     

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