Edit: Not sure if relevant but since the rules above state so .. I did not contact a casino rep because i could not find one from within the list. After all, it is a very new casino.
I'd post you the live chat log but it's in finnish so it wouldn't really do any good. Here goes though ..
So basically, Yakocasino offers some nice welcome bonuses. I picked 300% up to 150€ and made a deposit of 50€. This gave me a balance of 200€. Before depositing, I read the T&C carefully. The T&C led me to believe, that the bonus is forfeitable. For some bizarre reason live chat was mysteriously unavailable prior to deposit though, so I couldn't confirm.
Here's the breakdown now:
'' You will first play with your own money, and after that with your bonus money. Your OWN MONEY does NOT count towards wagering requirements. '' This line here alone led me to believe, that forfeiting has to be possible, otherwise it makes no sense.
Well after depositing and seeing all of my money is suddenly bonus money, and I can't even withdraw my own money, I was alerted, so I contacted the live chat.
We argued for good 20 minutes, and the live chat representative would not give in. Basically, their bonus structure is built in a way where the deposit YOU make has to be lost. You HAVE to lose it. You can NOT wager any of the wagering requirements until your own money has been spent, and you can not withdraw any money until bonus has been wagered. You can forfeit the bonus but you will give up your bonus AND all winnings accumulated, even if you gained that money with your own deposit without touching the bonus money.
So in my case, if within the first 50€ say I hit a jackpot, and won 5000€, what would I be able to do? I asked this from the live chat rep. and they told me I would have to play it down to 150€ to be able to start the wagering requirements and then fulfill them. This basically proves that the first 50€ + any winnings gained from that are playmoney and nothing more.
Afterwards the live rep. closed the chat on me. I'm baffled. How is this a 300% bonus if you have to lose your own deposit to do anything, to even have a chance of winning? Because right now, for the first 50€, the win chance is 0%. Even if I win, I HAVE TO lose it in order to actually wager. Right now this 300% is in fact, a 200%, because i have to play my money to 150€ to start the wagering requirements.
Let me ask you .. how is this fair? And what to do now? I could forfeit, withdraw my money back and forget the casino even existed. But I wanted to play ... 200% is better than nothing, but do I really wanna trust a casino like this. Would you?
I'd post you the live chat log but it's in finnish so it wouldn't really do any good. Here goes though ..
So basically, Yakocasino offers some nice welcome bonuses. I picked 300% up to 150€ and made a deposit of 50€. This gave me a balance of 200€. Before depositing, I read the T&C carefully. The T&C led me to believe, that the bonus is forfeitable. For some bizarre reason live chat was mysteriously unavailable prior to deposit though, so I couldn't confirm.
Here's the breakdown now:
'' You will first play with your own money, and after that with your bonus money. Your OWN MONEY does NOT count towards wagering requirements. '' This line here alone led me to believe, that forfeiting has to be possible, otherwise it makes no sense.
Well after depositing and seeing all of my money is suddenly bonus money, and I can't even withdraw my own money, I was alerted, so I contacted the live chat.
We argued for good 20 minutes, and the live chat representative would not give in. Basically, their bonus structure is built in a way where the deposit YOU make has to be lost. You HAVE to lose it. You can NOT wager any of the wagering requirements until your own money has been spent, and you can not withdraw any money until bonus has been wagered. You can forfeit the bonus but you will give up your bonus AND all winnings accumulated, even if you gained that money with your own deposit without touching the bonus money.
So in my case, if within the first 50€ say I hit a jackpot, and won 5000€, what would I be able to do? I asked this from the live chat rep. and they told me I would have to play it down to 150€ to be able to start the wagering requirements and then fulfill them. This basically proves that the first 50€ + any winnings gained from that are playmoney and nothing more.
Afterwards the live rep. closed the chat on me. I'm baffled. How is this a 300% bonus if you have to lose your own deposit to do anything, to even have a chance of winning? Because right now, for the first 50€, the win chance is 0%. Even if I win, I HAVE TO lose it in order to actually wager. Right now this 300% is in fact, a 200%, because i have to play my money to 150€ to start the wagering requirements.
Let me ask you .. how is this fair? And what to do now? I could forfeit, withdraw my money back and forget the casino even existed. But I wanted to play ... 200% is better than nothing, but do I really wanna trust a casino like this. Would you?