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UKGC wants affordability & Source of Funds check on signup!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Mr Wild, Mar 19, 2018.

    Mar 19, 2018
  1. Mr Wild

    Mr Wild Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Online Casino
    Location:
    Malta
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    "
    The Gambling Commission could require all operators to introduce a “customer due diligence” phase before letting new customers gamble, the regulator announced today.

    The process would mean operators needed to verify their players through a series of checks on areas such as affordability and source of funds.

    The UK regulator said the new measures were needed as “many failings arise because operators do not know enough about their customers at an early enough stage of their relationship”.
    "
     
  2. Mar 19, 2018
  3. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    It makes the most sense to do it beforehand anyway. Only questions remains is their criteria for eligibility. So unemployed people, low- income, self- employed etc will now be sweating profusely at their judgement :mad:
     
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  4. Mar 19, 2018
  5. Mr Wild

    Mr Wild Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Online Casino
    Location:
    Malta
    Well, I think its quite harsh to ask everyone. A solution could be that anyone gambles for more than X amount would be required to supply source of wealth information.
     
  6. Mar 19, 2018
  7. shadow123

    shadow123 Well-Known Member

    Occupation:
    programmer
    Location:
    midlands
    here we go again, overkill coming ...
    If the UKGC were that worried about player protection,bookie roulette would be £2 not the proposed £30.Bloody
    hipocrytes
     
  8. Mar 20, 2018
  9. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

    Occupation:
    Casual Stocktaker (Inventory Counter)
    Location:
    Belfast
    Is that your way of indirectly asking our friend Jono if his shirt has somewhat darkened in colour since he started reading this thread? :p
     
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  10. Mar 20, 2018
  11. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    Leave Jono alone. He can't be as precariat as I once was :laugh:
     
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  12. Mar 20, 2018
  13. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

    Occupation:
    chippy
    Location:
    uk
    i think its a good idea & cut out a lot of bullshit from casinos & the key withdrawals , but it should be done under a threshold of £1000 in any calendar month if you pass this then you should supply the info , that would keep low rollers out of this although again this depends on what people would call a low roller )
     
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  14. Mar 20, 2018
  15. colinsunderland

    colinsunderland Experienced Member MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    affiliate
    Location:
    uk
    Is your first post your opinion or have you read the report yourself, do you have a link to it please? Reason I ask is that I have found quotes like this about it elsewhere

    “This would require players to be verified before they were allowed to gamble. We will also consult on requirements that would mean operators had to set limits on players’ spending which could only be increased once they had further verified information about the player, for example via an affordability check.”

    Which is completely different to what the OP says.

    Huge difference between have to do CDD before being allowed to gamble, and doing it at a point when spend goes over a limit.
     
  16. Mar 20, 2018
  17. Jono777

    Jono777 mmawardeeIV CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Status needs updating lol.

    Pharmaceutical Despatch Administrator these days :)

    PS: I'm actually proud of myself for pretty much staying in control for all these years, what with my £25 deposits and max bet of erm 0.40p, Could have sold the contents of my house, including the wife and Hi rolled but no, good boy me :oops:
     
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  18. Mar 20, 2018
  19. Jono777

    Jono777 mmawardeeIV CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Press wrong button
     
  20. Mar 20, 2018
  21. Chipkin9

    Chipkin9 I'm not a Senior

    Occupation:
    Between Jobs
    Location:
    Tyrone, Ireland
    That's the classiest way I've heard someone describe themselves as a drug dealer...I'll have 2 Ounces of your finest coke please :laugh:

    Just kidding btw, also I don't take drugs ;)
     
  22. Mar 20, 2018
  23. Jono777

    Jono777 mmawardeeIV CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Whoops, providing a joke when I didn't even mean to, must be good :p

    That's really what my job is "Drug Dealer", the locals call me 'DD' lol

    Work 2 split shifts, Mon-Fri - Daytime paper work and travelling to about 15 various Dr's surgeries and evening taking the actual meds to elderly / infirm - No boss on my back, not stuck in an office all day, can pull over for ciggie if I want, CD's blasting, cracking little job lol :thumbsup:
     
  24. Mar 20, 2018
  25. Chipkin9

    Chipkin9 I'm not a Senior

    Occupation:
    Between Jobs
    Location:
    Tyrone, Ireland
    Fair play...sounds great tbh.

    Now if there was a night time job out there somewhere where you worked alone with zero interaction with other people; I'd be set. Otherwise I'm held back with severe Social Anxiety Disorder. Really would love to work instead of looking at the same 4 horrible walls all the time :oops:
     
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  26. Mar 20, 2018
  27. Valhalla

    Valhalla The Professional MM

    Occupation:
    Poker Player
    Location:
    Northern Ireland
    Personally I think this is a load of shit. Let people gamble what they want, the human race doesn't need it's hand held through every single facet of life for God's sake.
     
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  28. Mar 20, 2018
  29. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    ... so next time I go to the Meister Meet and wander along to one of the casinos in Leicester Square, I won't get through the door unless I can prove where the wadge of £20 notes in my pocket came from... :eek:

    Why should online be any different to a high-street casino?
    "Political Correctness" takes another step toward full insanity...

    KK
     
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  30. Mar 20, 2018
  31. Jd666

    Jd666 RiffRaff CAG mm4

    Occupation:
    Maggot Farmer
    Location:
    Republic Of West Yorkshire
    I can imagine poor little Bobby getting the third degree when he wants to change a quid into 2p's to play the pushers in Coral Island
     
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  32. Mar 20, 2018
  33. SpinUk

    SpinUk Meister Minion MM PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    London
    Customs and Excise getting other people to do their dirty work....
     
  34. Mar 20, 2018
  35. pinnit2014

    pinnit2014 Meister Minion MM PABinit

    Occupation:
    Work with figures, other audit-y things
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Same, except instead of a wadge of 20s they’ll be asking where I got ‘that’ lonely tenner
     
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  36. Mar 20, 2018
  37. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    This might be an overreaction due to the continual shortcuts that leave players fighting to get their withdrawals due to something that was no problem when they were depositing away and losing. The new rules are STILL being sprung on players when they have made a withdrawal, and it invariably means they can't get their money until they have scanned and sent documents, obtained proofs of source, such as having to ask for bills and letters to be especially provided as the usual statements won't suffice.
    The main thing this will achieve, overreaction it may be, is that no player should ever have to worry about further delays due to additional checks being sprung upon withdrawal.

    The industry will hate it as it will also enforce a cooling off period between creating the account on the spur of a tempting advertisement or too good to be true spam email and being able to deposit and gamble away the money. It should at least persuade operators to have a 24/7/365 operation, rather than telling players waiting on a withdrawal that "It will be looked at first thing Monday morning". I bet they won't relish players wanting to deposit Friday night having to wait till Monday morning, even though they don't see any problems with players who withdraw Friday night having to wait 2 days before someone even decides whether and what verification checks need to be made before releasing it.
     
  38. Mar 20, 2018
  39. slotter999

    slotter999 Full Member

    Occupation:
    Player
    Location:
    UK
    What do you think about the idea that credit checks could be used to meet this potential requirement? It seems like a fairly obvious solution to me albeit one which is unlikely to be well received by players.
     

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