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[Avernite]

Unlike illegal operations for the UK, the situation and japan is different. It's not illegal or legal. It's a grey area.

The entire canadian market (well, most provinces) hinges on this grey area. Most provinces like Quebec, Alberta, Saskatchewan etc only have one "legal" licenced site. Due to there being no legislation banning offshore casinos, they are able to offer their games and players are allowed to play their with neither side being penalised for doing so.

A quick Google search confirms online gambling in Japan is illegal.

 

[mulven]

A quick Google search confirms online gambling in Japan is illegal.

Looks like I didn't Google hard enough. I inferred some incorrect conclusions from information I had read about it. In Japan it's not the same as Canada as it is actually Illegal but is seldom ever enforced, atleast up till now.

There was apparently a massive boom during COVID.

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[SlamRoyale]

Unlike illegal operations for the UK, the situation and japan is different. It's not illegal or legal. It's a grey area.

The entire canadian market (well, most provinces) hinges on this grey area. Most provinces like Quebec, Alberta, Saskatchewan etc only have one "legal" licenced site. Due to there being no legislation banning offshore casinos, they are able to offer their games and players are allowed to play their with neither side being penalised for doing so.

Yes, AFAIK online gambling in Japan is not regulated, but it is also not illegal. They are asking a lot to regulate, so they can tax it. But not a priority.

Back to the question, Asia is a big volume market. It doesn't matter if wage is inequal. They are culturally more attuned to gambling, we make movies all about gambling, we even have gods of luck and gambling. So maybe an Asian gambles cents, but he will gamble that cents 100s of times. House edge wins in the end.

 

[Reefer]

Yes, AFAIK online gambling in Japan is not regulated, but it is also not illegal. They are asking a lot to regulate, so they can tax it. But not a priority.

Back to the question, Asia is a big volume market. It doesn't matter if wage is inequal. They are culturally more attuned to gambling, we make movies all about gambling, we even have gods of luck and gambling. So maybe an Asian gambles cents, but he will gamble that cents 100s of times. House edge wins in the end.

This is one way they get round regulation in japan. You win prizes instead of cash, then sell the prizes for cash in the shop next to the casino
It's a bit like how they used to get round it in the uk with the AWP (amusement with prize) games where kids could play away in arcades back in the day in places like blackpool

 

[Avernite]

Yes, AFAIK online gambling in Japan is not regulated, but it is also not illegal. They are asking a lot to regulate, so they can tax it. But not a priority.

Back to the question, Asia is a big volume market. It doesn't matter if wage is inequal. They are culturally more attuned to gambling, we make movies all about gambling, we even have gods of luck and gambling. So maybe an Asian gambles cents, but he will gamble that cents 100s of times. House edge wins in the end.

See above. Online gambling is illegal in Japan, yet you have providers knowingly providing their services illegally. It's time they're held accountable it.

 

[Reefer]

See above. Online gambling is illegal in Japan, yet you have providers knowingly providing their services illegally. It's time they're held accountable it.

Well that's life, where there is a market someone will take advantage, legal or not.
The people that are silly enough to deposit knowing they are breaking tos are taking a gamble.. even before they gamble, but that's what they are there for anyway

 

[Guntis]

That's how some online casinos work everywhere - if something isn't regulated, it doesn't mean it's illegal. And, if something isn't prohibited, it means it's allowed, lol

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Japan is building a massive casino resort in Osaka, by the way.

 

[Reefer]

That's how some online casinos work everywhere - if something isn't regulated, it doesn't mean it's illegal. And, if something isn't prohibited, it means it's allowed, lol

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Japan is building a massive casino resort in Osaka, by the way.

If i were to have a punt which i don't these days i would deffo pick a crypto casino. i don't have up to date photo id and other docs required if a cashout happened and couldn't be assed with the stress uk casinos seem to put on players these days
From what i can tell all you need to sign up to the cryptos is a phone number, well and some crypto
Guess you pick ya poison

 

[Avernite]

That's how some online casinos work everywhere - if something isn't regulated, it doesn't mean it's illegal. And, if something isn't prohibited, it means it's allowed, lol

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Japan is building a massive casino resort in Osaka, by the way.

Again, and I'm not sure what people don't understand here, online gambling in Japan is illegal full stop. No exceptions. It's not a gray area, it's fully illegal.

As for the resort, it may be like the casinos in Malaysia and South Korea where only foreigner's are allowed to play. In any case it's not really relevant to online.

 

[Avernite]

Well that's life, where there is a market someone will take advantage, legal or not.
The people that are silly enough to deposit knowing they are breaking tos are taking a gamble.. even before they gamble, but that's what they are there for anyway

That doesn't excuse operators and businesses engaging in illegal activity.

 

[Guntis]

Again, and I'm not sure what people don't understand here, online gambling in Japan is illegal full stop. No exceptions. It's not a gray area, it's fully illegal.

As for the resort, it may be like the casinos in Malaysia and South Korea where only foreigner's are allowed to play. In any case it's not really relevant to online.

Yeah that's true. Online is definitely illegal, and for land-based as far as i remember they can bet on speed boats and horse races. About the resort, they're making it for local s as well, but there will be certain requirements.

 

[electronictonic]

So UKGC has spent the last few years destroying and dismantling gambling in the UK and they are surprised that people have run to offshore crypto sites? so they can play like it used to be before UKGC ruined it, they are just pissed off that people are playing where it's out of the reach of being taxed....like it always comes down to it they couldn't give a shit about the players.

 

[SlamRoyale]

As for the resort, it may be like the casinos in Malaysia and South Korea where only foreigner's are allowed to play. In any case it's not really relevant to online.

Not true for Malaysia. I've been to the casino, only local Muslims are not allowed in there I went as a foreigner, but the friends who brought me were all Malaysian locals (not Muslim).

 

[Avernite]

Not true for Malaysia. I've been to the casino, only local Muslims are not allowed in there I went as a foreigner, but the friends who brought me were all Malaysian locals (not Muslim).

Correct, but given that around 90% of Malaysians are Muslim you're not likely to find many locals allowed to gamble there to begin with. Went there about 18 months ago myself, quite an expensive casino to play at too imo.

Funnily enough I found more Malaysians at the South Korea casino.

 

[SlamRoyale]

Correct, but given that around 90% of Malaysians are Muslim you're not likely to find many locals allowed to gamble there to begin with. Went there about 18 months ago myself, quite an expensive casino to play at too imo.

Funnily enough I found more Malaysians at the South Korea casino.

I worked in Malaysia and Singapore for almost 20 years. Muslim majority is just around 60%. And most of that is in rural areas, in the cities you would say only less than half are. The only reason you won't find locals there is it's far to get, and expensive. They all prefer to do online Malaysians overseas are first class earners. No surprise to find them in other fancier casinos overseas

 

[Avernite]

I worked in Malaysia and Singapore for almost 20 years. Muslim majority is just around 60%. And most of that is in rural areas, in the cities you would say only less than half are. The only reason you won't find locals there is it's far to get, and expensive. They all prefer to do online Malaysians overseas are first class earners. No surprise to find them in other fancier casinos overseas

That still effectively bans it for most of their population by default.

Notably online gambling is illegal for the most part in Malaysia and Singapore as well.