Feedback UKGC review: some conclusions.

ChopleyIOM

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The problem with an auto clicker is the vast majority of people won't have any idea what one is.

On top of that it's another piece of software to install and configure (are they even a thing on mobile platforms?).

On top of that it probably breaches the T&Cs at most casinos that explicitly prohibit using any piece of software to 'play' the game for you. (Particularly so if you're using one to evade the regulations they operate under.)

And finally even if you are one of the people who know what an auto-clicker is, are prepared to install and configure one, and are prepared to take the risk on having your wins confiscated - wouldn't the casino window need to be in focus and have the mouse pointer in the correct bit of the screen? For anyone using a multiscreen setup or someone like me who uses a large 32 inch 4K monitor split into quadrants so I can have three other things running at once, they'd be no use anyway.
 

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That really sounds great solution to create some restriction what the majority of active players willing to circumvent before it's been in place. Would really love to hear reasoning and estimation how much problem gambling reduce when you remove autospin option.

Making it limited that you can set only certain amount of spins and even some financial loss limits should be enough, hopefully point of idea is just to make it impossible to leave game to play itself for ever until balance is gone.

Can anyone find any idea behind of how total removal of that function helps problem gambling? If willing to make gambling so boring that people just stop doing it, then i get it and top of restrict autospin, could also allow Starburst to be only slot allowed to any casinos, there for sure would be dramatic decrease of problem gambling in UK regulated casinos (not in problem gambling itself as it's not that difficult to play outside of these regulations if doing them so stupid that majority chose that option).
 

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I noticed when I play Gonzo MW yesterday the 2.5 second thing was active. But. Even if you have a win spin - takes what 5-30 seconds? It still makes you wait 2.5 seconds after the win to spin again. Ffs.

The autoplay removal will only force me to play higher stakes. The beauty of auto play is that I can play 10/20p stakes on a game where I know the bonus takes a while and go to the bathroom, get a drink, make a sandwich and hope to come back to a bonus.

As much as I enjoy a gamble, I don’t enjoy base games (do many of us?) the excitement is in the bonuses. And I don’t really enjoy sitting there tapping/clicking for 2/3 hours.

UKGC are really bizarre sometimes.
 

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It will be interesting to see if these restrictions hit land based arcades too

I’m sure many of us have fallen for the coin picks during a bonus on Rocky £500, ‘ah if I had just picked the right coin instead of the left I would have won the Gold pot!!!’

Also I know of several regular punters that visit the arcade to play 3-4 community terminals at the same time...solo, that would become a non starter without auto play unless they were an Octopus...
 

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rtp is different in every arcade as some arcades have 500 at £2 90% but some are set at 86% services use the lowest setting
 

deepsky2

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The UKGC should force casinos and game providers to have the RTP posted on the games even before opening the game. I also think they should be color coded of some sorts example 97% and above green for good 93% to 96.9 yellow for fair and red anything below 93% as poor. About time the UKGC does something for the players. Casino's are going bananas in lowering RTP's and providers are as guilty for suppling them.
Even though we're a small community it's very important to get the message out to others about RTP. I know alot don't care or understand but that was me at one time. I finally seen the light and doing my best to get message out were ever I can. I recently closed my 32Red account re Club Rouge being taking away even though I was promised I can keep it in previous emails and 3 friends followed me in stopping playing at 32Red, so we can each make changes but as a community I think we can make our voices be heard even louder. Let's don't go down with out a fight.
 
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Siohmy

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That really sounds great solution to create some restriction what the majority of active players willing to circumvent before it's been in place. Would really love to hear reasoning and estimation how much problem gambling reduce when you remove autospin option.
Don’t be daft. As if the UKGC has done any “research” above asking some former addicts what would help them quit. Then, in an expert bit of balanced reasoning, effectively labelled everyone with these issues and battered the industry accordingly.

I’d say that, far from helping, this would actually drive problem gamblers to potentially gamble higher. If you get bored betting say 50p/spin which is your usual amount because you can’t set spins going, they spin quite slow and you’re not getting your action I’d say it’s just as likely you’d push your bet up to £2, £3, £5 etc.
 

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The consultation phase has clearly been massively skewed in order to align with a set agenda. I wouldn't mind a bet that the LBO chains have been pushing the UKGC to make online gambling as inhospitable a place as possible in the hope most other operators will all pile out and leave it to them.

The idea of ditching autoplay is absolutely pointless given there will be deposit limits in any case to stop loss of control. There are many ways to prove that not having autoplay ruins enjoyment, increases the chance of a player losing track of play, increases average bet and reduces participation but the UKGC are not interested. They've already made their minds up on what's going to happen, and all the surveys and requests for feedback is purely obligatory, none of which will be considered.
Bunch of fucking wankers the lot of them.
 

Siohmy

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I know this is likely to be on their radar as well but how on earth can getting rid of auto-play be more of a concern then slots which encourage collection of items for "enhanced features". Collection games are simply designed to get you hooked into getting the better feature. Then again I am convinced UKGC actually have no real clue about anything to do with online gambling other than what people tell them.

Put it this way. Even though they may not take a blind bit of notice, I would expect those making decisions to know and at least view a site which has been going for decades dedicated to the subject. Along with an admittedly small number of forum participants, this should help to give some other views, reactions, etc. They don't have to agree with anything but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even know this forum exists.
 
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