U.S. confirms loss in WTO Internet Gambling Trade Case

[dhayman]

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This isn't the clearest of articles. What is everyone's interpretation of this ?

 

[suzecat]

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This isn't the clearest of articles. What is everyone's interpretation of this ?

It appears someone has chafed George's ass.........hope they don't have any WMDs......... then again, would that matter?

 

[Chatmaster]

The exact same cloudy report is in

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[dominique]

One would hope that other injured parties, such as Britain and the countries whose banks have been ordered to disclose client information, would join Antigua's complaint.

 

[Chatmaster]

One would hope that other injured parties, such as Britain and the countries whose banks have been ordered to disclose client information, would join Antigua's complaint.

I believe there are a number of countries that can actually join in on this issue, but the question is, is it really worthwhile for them peeving the US for this?

 

[lots0]

The US government is really down playing the FACT that they lost the last appeal to the WTO.

The US now has a short time frame to comply with the WTO ruling, I do believe the US has already used up all of its appeals under the WTO rules.

So what if the US does not comply within the time frame?

What is Antigua going to do... Start a trade war (or any other kind of war) with the US... I don't think so...

However,
under the WTO treaty that the US willing signed and sponsored... Antigua and the other petitioners have the right to set aside international copyright laws and intellectual property rights as far as the USA is concerned.

What does this mean? It means that Antigua and the other countries involved will LEGALLY become the largest bootleg market in the world (even bigger than the illegal bootleg market in China) for American software, movies, music, games, books etc. owned by any American company or individual.

I should also point out that it is being reported that the Port Security Act Signed by the degenerate bush boy in October of last year has been set to be 'Reviewed' by Congress. If there is going to be a review so soon after being signed, it is going to be all about complying with the WTO Decision.

 

[USOS]

I should also point out that it is being reported that the Port Security Act Signed by the degenerate bush boy in October of last year has been set to be 'Reviewed' by Congress.


Could you give a source for this? Who reported it.

 

[pokeraddict]

I have a feeling if they change anything it would be to drop the carve outs for lotteries and horse racing. I don't see it going the other way. At least not so soon.

 

[silcnlayc]

it would be to drop the carve outs for lotteries and horse racing.

I don't think they will drop the online horse racing for the east coast would go down in flames and that includes Washington DC and Richmond (where our govenment rules from) which are 2 places that were brought up on raising thoroughbreds and horse racing. Too much "old money" pulling strings to have that removed.

 

[lots0]

No way they are dropping any of the carve outs.

As silcnlayc pointed out Horse Racing is for the blue bloods and no politico with a single brain cell is going to touch it.

BINGO is protected by the Natives and their treaties with the federal government. Of course, the US Federal Government does not seem to care much about keeping treaties these days.... so maybe... but I really doubt it.

The State lotteries fund the State's general fund (schools and roads), most states that have the lottery totally depend on the income from the lottery to fund their state budgets. The States would never allow the feds to outlaw one of their main sources of income.

Could you give a source for this? Who reported it.

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[dhayman]

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Where is the reference on this page ?

 

[USOS]

Will Online Gambling Return?

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[Chatmaster]

Well some good news from the EU

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[The Dude]

Well some good news from the EU

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Yeah, but I wish that article had a little more meat. That took about three and a half seconds to read.

Good news none-the-less.

 

[The Dude]

...I should also point out that it is being reported that the Port Security Act Signed by the degenerate bush boy in October of last year has been set to be 'Reviewed' by Congress. If there is going to be a review so soon after being signed, it is going to be all about complying with the WTO Decision.

Could you point out exactly when and where? I'm on the site, but I can't find a damned thing.

 

[shyspirit]

I found this article with a bit more depth

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[silcnlayc]

Another tidbit added

Interesting little tidbit added to the previous post!

A group representing U.S. casino operators such as Harrah's Entertainment Inc. and MGM Mirage has pushed Congress to fund a study of whether online gambling could be regulated, as a possible way to get into the business themselves.

To contact the reporter on this story: John Rega in Brussels at jrega@bloomberg.net .

Last Updated: January 30, 2007 12:08 EST

Link is here--->

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[Simmo!]

What an intriguing little thread


Silly question probably, but if one "senator" can attach an amendment to a totally unrelated Bill, why can't one of the straight guys do the same reversing the decision next term?

 

[winbig]

Pretty interesting article, comparing Lefebvre's $5M bond to Devlin's $1M bond.

The difference in the two?

Michael Devlin is being charged with counts of kidnapping young defenseless boys. John Lefebvre is being charged with running a third party money transfer service similar to that of PayPal that helped facilitate online gambling transactions to and from willing US citizens.

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Now I see why NYS is so anal about online gambling. The now governor was the one that led the fight against Paypal to end their processing of gambling transactions. Never knew that...

 

[GrandMaster]

Pretty interesting article, comparing Lefebvre's $5M bond to Devlin's $1M bond.

The difference in the two?

Lefebvre owns 6% of Neteller, Devlin does not.

 

[lots0]

Could you point out exactly when and where? I'm on the site, but I can't find a damned thing.

Sorry I didn't post sooner Bryan (trying to pay the bills), looks like they removed everything but the current days schedule, after I posted the link.

I'll ask one of my monkeys to do a little research and see what they can come up with. Some of those government sites are really joke when it comes to finding anything, its almost like they do it on purpose...

 

[lots0]

Sorry, we have not been able to find any more info about Congress revisiting the port security act after several hours of checking.

However, we have found several articles from Congressmen that called for the Act to be revisited, because of security holes, no mention of the UIGA.

 

[The Watchdog]

Interesting point of view...

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Check this article out.. and let me know what you think...

I find it quite coherent...

 

[USOS]

Thus we are at a point where other nations either have to stand up to the United States or declare George Bush president of the world and let the United States determine morals and economic policy for every other nation on earth. True, Antigua has a small population and internet gambling may not be of paramount importance to all these other countries, but this is the first time a smaller country has been willing to take the type of stand they have against the United States for what they believe are their rights under the WTO. And the WTO and appellate body have made it clear that the U.S. is in the wrong. This is David vs. Goliath and as was the case in the bible, David is on the side of right here. The United States is arguing that remote gambling is immoral, but they offer remote gambling everywhere in their own country. Since when is protectionism about morality? If the European community, Canada and all nations in the WTO for that matter, truly believe in the principles and purpose of the World Trade Organization then they should come to the defense of Antigua. Doing so will send the message that the WTO is not a one way street in favor of the world superpowers, it will also send a more important message that when you deal in a global economy disputes have to be settled by international courts. And if the decisions don't go a country's way, sometimes they just have to admit that maybe they were wrong.



For the sake of economic fairness, for the sake of their own citizens who were wrongly prosecuted and persecuted by the United States and for the sake of avoiding a precedent setting case declaring the United States as having the sole power to dictate ethics and morality to the rest of the world, the European Union should get off the fence and take the side of Antigua in the WTO case involving internet gambling.



02-06-07
Hartley Henderson
Majorwager.com
henderson@majorwager.com

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[Mousey]

Thus we are at a point where other nations either have to stand up to the United States or declare George Bush president of the world and let the United States determine morals and economic policy for every other nation on earth.

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For the sake of economic fairness, for the sake of their own citizens who were wrongly prosecuted and persecuted by the United States and for the sake of avoiding a precedent setting case declaring the United States as having the sole power to dictate ethics and morality to the rest of the world, the European Union should get off the fence and take the side of Antigua in the WTO case involving internet gambling.

Well said, Hartley!