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Twin Spin Rage

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Deeplay, Jul 1, 2016.

    Jul 1, 2016
  1. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Well one of my go to slots Twin Spin - has died a death on me the past month :mad::mad: these vile contraption has eaten my funds almost ever time.

    Also I loath the new layout .... slow and jerky unlike it used to be when it was one of the fastest netent offerings play wise.

    I noticed on VideoSlots game payouts the past month its showing around 92% .... cant look back past June as it does not seem to have stats for that anymore , maybe something to do with
    when they re-released the game.

    I am bordering tin foil hat country on this which for me is very very rare .........;)

    Anyone else play this new contraption ... how you finding it ? :confused:
     
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  2. Jul 1, 2016
  3. MightyDuck

    MightyDuck Experienced Member

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    I'm more and more going towards Yggdrasil and PlaynGo slots because of the lack of creativity from Netent. The new games are crap and the older ones get refurbished and made to crap too.
     
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  4. Jul 1, 2016
  5. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Played it the other night.

    Usually I'd given Twin Spin at least 100 spins before I move on or stay, depending on how it is treating me.

    Lets just say I don't think I managed even 40 spins on this new vile piece of filth.

    I have not had a decent run/hit on this slot for ages now, before or after the 're-vamp' :(

    It was certainly heading towards my 'rare' list but since the makeover has joined the 'never' list :mad:
     
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  6. Jul 1, 2016
  7. nutnut

    nutnut Meister Member

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    Something doesn't feel right with Netent slots, anytime you had any decent win you should never g back, cause not only do big wins never happen again but it bleeds you dry so quick.
     
  8. Jul 1, 2016
  9. goatwack

    goatwack bombastic monk CAG

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    I don't want to harp on about the 'good old days', but the days of getting consecutive good hits/ bonus rounds seem a distant memory.

    Noticeably different gameplay from when I started, my reference point only being about four years ago. It's always the same Netent Variance; lose a lot, get a big hit taking you to almost your starting balance and repeat the cycle!

    It is actually getting to the stage where the only viable slot left to play is DOA. I have wondered why anyone even plays anything else to be honest, even if it is 'entertainingly -challenged'. I'd only play Netent's recent offerings after making a withdrawal and using spare cash, never to start a session.

    I don't see the big deal with Twin Spin but who'd notice Netent shaving off a couple of % of the RTP anyway :(

    After all, when Adventure Palace HD got revamped it played like horse manure. Even Scarface had a subtle facelift but the changes are irritating if anything and simplified nonsense.

    LEAVE GAMES AS THEY ARE YOU CHUMPS
     
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  10. Jul 1, 2016
  11. asm

    asm Experienced Member PABinit

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    It'd be very interesting to see the complete stats and probabilities of things from NETENT. Oddly enough, I don't really like twin spin but it's one of the few games I can honestly say I'm up on (mainly because I scored a few big ones and haven't played it a lot because it's boring).

    All the new NETENT games seem to suck gigantic ass, sorry to put it bluntly. That revolting Aloha game was bottombarrelstuff.
     
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  12. Jul 1, 2016
  13. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    A regular 'Go to' game of mine, maybe even Top 3! - Some huge success time and again.

    Following the 'Extreme Makeover - Bullshit Edition' - as you say only touch with leftovers and once in a blue moon!
     
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  14. Jul 1, 2016
  15. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Yep twin spin crap for me as of late ...

    but have just won 100 spins on Gemix getting first place in free roll :cool:
     
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  16. Jul 1, 2016
  17. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    That was you with the load of stars? :D

    I barely got past 600 points :eek:

    Hope the FS pay something decent. Won the 100FS battle on Eggomatic this morning, got 50FS for first place and they paid $4.50 :mad: :mad: :mad:

    As for Twin Spin I will say it in CM jargon: I will never touch that slot again even with a barge pole :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Jul 1, 2016
  19. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Egg O Matic (another one of my ultimate faves which has bitten the dust) has been pathetic for ages now, hence the almost abandonment my end.

    I had admiration for Netent's older slots, despite the unbeatable variance, now with these changes and constant releases of 'dross' apart from DOA now and then I find I rarely touch any Netent.

    Their loss!
     
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  20. Jul 1, 2016
  21. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Didnt even see it ... but I won a massive £5.10 from 100 free spins utter crap.

    have got it up to £20 on "twin spin" of all things ....

    will probably hammer the above on IR 60p spins :)

    I still have zero idea how gemix actually works some in chat did try explain it but its like a got brain freeze on it :cool:
     
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  22. Jul 1, 2016
  23. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Well that went well won fiver on the 100 fs .... took it to 21 on TS then onto IR @ 60p spins bust within 5 minutes :cool:

    Did pick up some race points though and cash back ...
     
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  24. Jul 1, 2016
  25. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    I don't think Netent or MG or others have changed or the RTP has been altered.

    In my view the main reason for very poor sessions is the total number of players. This has exploded in the past years together with the number of new casinos. In itself you would think that it would make things better as more money goes in, more comes out. Logical right?

    The only problem is that the probability that you will be the chosen one to be on the receiving end of that big win has dropped just as dramatic.

    Why am I convinced that this is the reason? VS did now twice the freebie promo for the Battles and the number of players was always the max. 500 during those days compared to 150-350 on other days. You would see massive spikes in big wins but only for 2-5 players and an extremely high number at the bottom not getting past 30% RTP for the 100 battle spins.

    Those "lucky' players would hit 3, 4, 5 bonus rounds within those 100 spins each paying well in excess of 100x bet. Just sooooo unbelievably hard to have such a run in real play when you don't have that big amount of players hitting the slot at the same time. But in the battles it mostly happened right in the first 10 minutes of the battle when you have most participants playing their spins.

    I had sometimes the impression that the software would chose randomly a few players at the start and give them all the good wins, was just so unreal to watch.

    Not once did i see such huge winning spikes and such extremly poor results on normal battle days.
     
  26. Jul 1, 2016
  27. barbara12

    barbara12 Senior Member

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    Hey Deeplay. When I logged in to battle on Gemix I thought -- how the hell did that guy get so many points? Unbelievable. Didn't know it was you. What you won from the free spins is probably much more realistic then the battle score for sure. I noticed you on a couple of battles Harry but have just been autoplaying and coming back to see what happened (extremely busy lately). You looked like you were doing well on one of the battles anyway. We both had freespins at the same time. Secrets of the Stones I think it was.
     
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  28. Jul 1, 2016
  29. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    Yep Secret of the Stone ... 6FS for me :thumbsup:

    Paid 7.10$ when i played them but DOA happily took it pretty quickly. :oops:
     
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  30. Jul 1, 2016
  31. goatwack

    goatwack bombastic monk CAG

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    so you're saying RTP is altered during Battles and RTP is adjusted for select players?

    I'm telling on you.

    And I'm getting you a special gold hat for real this time :eek:
     
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  32. Jul 1, 2016
  33. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    What I find lately is that it is much harder to trigger free spins on any gaming platform.
    Netent,MGS,WMS.
    A few years ago I felt you could safely say the free spins would trigger on average every 150-200 spins, of course with the variance added it could come quicker or a bit later.

    But lately I have had sessions on several slots where it took well over 500 and sometimes even over 1000 spins to trigger the FS.
    That is mad insane.
    Especially when that particular FS round pays you only a fraction back of what you have invested in the slot.

    The variance swings in slots when it comes to FS triggers most likely was always there but it seems to happen a lot more these days to me that it takes very very long.

    I was playing Amazon Queen a few weeks ago and all I got was 2 scatters over and over again.
    I seriously was thinking at a certain point the slots was malfunctioning as it did not drop the bloody 3th scatter.
    After a while it finally dropped,took about 1400 spins if I remember correctly.
     
  34. Jul 1, 2016
  35. goatwack

    goatwack bombastic monk CAG

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    It is true, the gaps between free spins is huge and very hard to determine, wheras back in the day they'd come along a lot more frequently. The only difference then is that although they were more common, a lot would still be rubbish.

    Nowadays I wait for ages and 9/10 they'd be terrible, not even enough to get me back to my starting point. It really is death by a thousand cuts :mad:
     
  36. Jul 1, 2016
  37. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    No, of course it isn't. I said i had the impression ... big difference my friend :D

    But it was indeed unreal to watch. The best i have seen was one battle on TwinSpin during the 3-day freebie promo, one player jumped to 1st spot with 1 x win of some 5,000 points (equals 50$ win on a 0.25$ bet), a few spins later some 7,000 points and to top it off a 3rd one paying 10,000 points... he/she finished the battle close to 25,000 points (= 250$ with 100 spins @ 0.25$) .... even on a super TwinSpin session i have never seen anything close to happen within 100 spins.

    In that battle another 4 players finished with a score of 12,000 and above. At the bottom you had some 50 players with less than 700 points.

    In battles with just 100odd players i have never seen that kind of winning spikes on one end and poor results at the bottom.

    But thanks for the golden hat, I'll proudly wear it :D
     
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  38. Jul 1, 2016
  39. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    Unfortunately, 300, 400, 500 spins between bonus rounds have become the norm whereas in the past it was the exception. Don't know how/why that changed as my records show a clear increase and that is averaged over millions of spins, not just a few hundred or thousand.

    Also the hyper long runs of 600 - 1500 spins without bonus round have increased substantially. That is 1 - 2.5 hrs sitting in front of the box seeing for the umpteenth time only 2 x scatter. :mad:

    And you can bet that the first bonus round after 100's of spins will pay absolutely nothing. :eek:

    What has also changed is the frequency of 5OAK on 243-liners. The other day i lost some 2K on TSII and went 594, 132 and 326 spins without seeing a single 5OAK of 9's or 10's, let alone the higher symbols. :oops:
     
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