TSII & IR Achievements cleared at casinoluck

[Balthazar]

When you press "spin" on a slot - it decides what €/£/$/¥ you are going to be returned. It doesn't matter if you've played that slot for seven years and "unlocked" the special secrets of the Priory of Sion - or you wandered in pissed and accidentally dropped ten dollars in the slot before falling over and nudging the " bet max" button with your elbow.

"Achievements" = Hilarious

Actually it DOES make a difference which bonus round you're picking. The RTP is the same but the variance isn't. It's been proved by kktmd's stats and it's easily observable with a slot like Playboy (you can get huge wins on the Sofia feature that are basically impossible to get on the Ashley feature).

 

[Slotster!]

Actually it DOES make a difference which bonus round you're picking. The RTP is the same but the variance isn't. It's been proved by kktmd's stats and it's easily observable with a slot like Playboy (you can get huge wins on the Sofia feature that are basically impossible to get on the Ashley feature).

Is that true? Are you sure you can't win EXACTLY the same coin values on any of the features? Sure one spin of stacked wilds would pay huge - but then 10 great spins on a different feature might pay the same. Would be astonished if you couldn't get the same "jackpot" payout from any of the features.

Totally agreed about certain ones being favourites and more fun - I'm a sucker for the Sofia one as well!

 

[Jory]

Yes you are right, but for entertainment, the halls of spins are great. Agree that you will get the same
predetermined win whatever you choose. But it`s a lot more fun to have more features.

It's not predetermined.

I once had a Troy feature that only paid £0.74. If I had selected the 10 free spins instead it would be impoissble to have a total pay of £0.74 as all wins are in multiples of 5.

 

[Slotster!]

It's not predetermined.

Honestly - it absolutely is.

It's very important if you are playing slots regularly that you understand this; you'll go mental otherwise!

Don't forget - there's nothing to say the predetermined outcome isn't amazing - that's the fun bit.

 

[miso]

It's not predetermined.

I once had a Troy feature that only paid £0.74. If I had selected the 10 free spins instead it would be impoissble to have a total pay of £0.74 as all wins are in multiples of 5.

See, you had 15 spins, and almost all dead. Same thing could have happened on Amber,
nine dead spins and one with some crappy 3OAK.

 

[brianmon]

See, you had 15 spins, and almost all dead. Same thing could have happened on Amber,
nine dead spins and one with some crappy 3OAK.

The point is that no win on amber, however small could ever equal 74p. since all wins are x5, and therefore divisible by 5. you can't divide 74p by 5

 

[miso]

The point is that no win on amber, however small could ever equal 74p. since all wins are x5, and therefore divisible by 5. you can't divide 74p by 5

OK, fair enough. Checked the paytable, it`s not possible.
Not sure it`s going to change opinions

If somebody`s out there with friends in high places, please get suits from MGS
to clarify the whole predetermined stuff.

 

[Balthazar]

Is that true? Are you sure you can't win EXACTLY the same coin values on any of the features?

Can you imagine what kind of Ashley feature it would take to match a full screen of wilds on Sofia's?

Honestly - it absolutely is.

No, it absolutely not.



Thanks to kktmd:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/new-mg-slot-playboy.57211/

 

[Balthazar]

OK, fair enough. Checked the paytable, it`s not possible.
Not sure it`s going to change opinions

How the heck can a proof like that not change an opinion? It's mathematically impossible to win 74p on a certain feature but it happened on the other, therefore outcomes cannot be predetermined.

You can easily achieve the same RTP with different variances, that's all you need to understand. If you need to outright lie to yourself to not feel bad for picking a shitty bonus then maybe playing slots isn't a good idea to start with.

 

[brianmon]

the outcome could be predetermined when you pick a particular feature. but NOT when the scatters fall and the bonus is given.

I always take a chance on a high variance feature, when my balance is high, and pick a lower variance feature when my balance is low

 

[Slotster!]

the outcome could be predetermined when you pick a particular feature. but NOT when the scatters fall and the bonus is given.

I always take a chance on a high variance feature, when my balance is high, and pick a lower variance feature when my balance is low

We have a winner... The overall return from whichever you pick being within negligible pence of each other.

 

[brianmon]

We have a winner... The overall return from whichever you pick being within negligible pence of each other.

All i can say is i've had several zero and less than 5x stake payout on the sarah and amber features (plus a few 500-1000x). but NEVER anything less than 30x on Michael

 

[Jory]

I'd say Amber is definitely the highest variance bonus with Michael being the lowest. Both Troy and Sarah are medium.

I think it works similar to the laptop bonus on hitman. You can't claim that bonus is predetermined as the win values are very different.

 

[De Beuker]

Its not pre-determent, definately not.
With those multiple feautures you can pick your preferred variance, thats all.
Sofia can pay (and has paid) over 8000x stake in a single spin.
To reach only that in the Kimi's 10 free spins x 5 you need something like 5 scatters/5 wilds 8 times within the same freespinround.
That has never happened and will never happen. Not in a gazillion years..

 

[KasinoKing]

We have a winner... The overall return from whichever you pick being within negligible pence of each other.

This is not necessarily so.

MG have a few slots where the different features definitely DO have different maximum win potential, for example, The Great Galaxy Grab.
OK, this is slightly different to IR, TS2, etc. because you can't choose which feature you get. But if you had played and got to say level 4 and then the casino re-set the game to level 1, you could quite rightly be a bit miffed about it.

KK

 

[dunover]

Thanks Eric!

I´ve taken care of the bonus for you, dunover. We have staff available 24/7 via email so you can always send a quick email to support to get help aswell. There seems to be a temporary glitch is preventing some users from getting the welcome bonus automatically. We´ll make sure tech sorts that out.

The welcome free spins are always added within 24h. You should have them by tomorrow the latest

Well, I got my freespins and used all 100 on Gonzos Quest, made about 12 quid (60% rtp) and Eric manually credited my 50 SUB plus an extra 20 as an apology. I had hitherto lost 110 quid cash so I had 82 quid of bonus-only at this point with a WR of 3.28k combined.

So, I started on Cleopatra at 60p, ended up after an hour at over 200, quit at 180 and went to TSII.
Had a good run, hit 280 and went to BDBA at about 225. This was utter filth, and at 27p lost 90 quid. So, took my 135 left (still 2k+ WR left) and
hit Wild Rockets. Went down to about 68 quid at one point, 50p spins. Built up to 100, down to 80 and then got a stonker freespin at 460x stake...

So, peaked at 330 on Rockets, took 280 back to Cleopatra. £1 stakes, I wanted to burn the WR quicker, I was 4 hours in at this point. Hovered at about the starting 280 for half an hour, then got a good bonus for 90 then another for 48. So, having hit 400, I upped to £2 a spin, got down to 390 and very quickly got a bonus for 55x so was up to 500, just under half WR to go. A few wins got me to 520, went back to TSII 90p a spin.

TSII was vile, quickly went down to 380 and left to return to BDBA thinking it must pay now.......did it f***.....lost another 52 at 27p spins. In total BDBA cost me 142 quid and I had ONE bonus round paying 11.50.

I checked my WR, only 900-ish to go. Had 328 left, so decided to try the low-variance St*rb*rst as recommended for burning a WR. Started 10 dead spins at £1 a spin, then 2 stars and 2 bars next to them, a quick 43 took me up to 361. Changed to autoplay 50p and burned the whole remaining WR off for a net loss of 48 quid.

So, 280 to cash out! Cashed out 260 and kept 20 quid for play. BDBA again, 27p spins, down to 8 quid in a few minutes. Decided to get rid of last 8 quid on Cleopatra at 60p, hit a bonus straight away, double retrigger and 60x stake (£36). Played my now £42 down to 30 and went on 300 Shields, lost 5 before getting a 33 bonus round at 25p spin (got a combo of 4x9's/wilds at 25x spins).

Back to Cleopatra, 40p spins, built up to 65 and cashed another 45 out.

20 left, back to BDBA and lost it quickly at 27p spins, NO bonus round.....

So, after 8 hours solid play, cashed out just over 300 from my 70+12 bonus-only balance.

Processed already back to my debit card, should see it Wednesday then.

Thanks Eric for your assistance. So, Netent overall (older slots though, no TFTUT, smeg-o-matic, twit-spit etc.) saved my ass, IGT made me the cashout and unbelievably MG games absolutely a$$-raped me...

 

[Slotster!]

OK, this is slightly different to IR, TS2, etc. because you can't choose which feature you get. But if you had played and got to say level 4 and then the casino re-set the game to level 1, you could quite rightly be a bit miffed about it.

KK

The "up to" is the key bit - you could get the potentially highest payout feature and payout peanuts.

The best way to live the predetermined free spins experience is pick one of the old school nine liners (Spring Break / Ladies Night etc) and bet one line. If you hit the scatters - it's AMAZING how many hits you suddenly get on the one line you played! Usually adding up to say 20-30x your bet maybe...

 

[brianmon]

The "up to" is the key bit - you could get the potentially highest payout feature and payout peanuts.

The best way to live the predetermined free spins experience is pick one of the old school nine liners (Spring Break / Ladies Night etc) and bet one line. If you hit the scatters - it's AMAZING how many hits you suddenly get on the one line you played! Usually adding up to say 20-30x your bet maybe...

There's no CHOICE of bonus in spring break etc. which is the whole point. So that's totally irrelevant to TSII, IR etc.

The tests done by kktmd show that individual bonus features within each slot have a different variance and payout capability.
Some features could NEVER pay the same as others, in some cases, by a very large difference

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Figures based on Millions of spins are more convincing than on persons opinion