TrainwrecksTv Calls out fake money streamers on Twitter after huge losses.

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I wrote an article on it on my blog but the TLDR; is he just rage quit live on stream, called out all slot streamers (which inferred Roshtein also) and was really, really angry at his losses. He has since deleted all the tweets after around one hour of them being live and many people seeing it.

As one of the top 10 most viewed streamers on Twitch, and most viewed gambling streamer right now, this is quite big and I hope he reveals more of anything he knows/has been offered.
 

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Says the guy who was betting £1000 a pop?

What was he playing with then if not affiliate money? A lottery win?

Just checked, he was spinning £1250 spins on Gates of Olympus. How on earth can anyone do that without raking in some serious affiliate money or sponsorship by the casino?? So I'm not quite grasping what his point is here?

I remember Mizkif doing a video where he called out the deals offered by a certain Bitcoin casino...was something like $35,000 an hour or something ridiculous like that.

This being said, I've made the point before that certain streamers seem to have a hell of a lot of good fortune with how the games play. Big win after big win, with very little downswing to speak of...but that's a separate issue to the fake/real money debate.

Either way I'm not really interested these days...it is what it is. I'm pretty much out of the twitch loop now on the casino section side of things.
 
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since hes a twitch partner and one of the top streamers over the yrs, one thing is certain hes actually rich unlike the rest
 

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since hes a twitch partner and one of the top streamers over the yrs, one thing is certain hes actually rich unlike the rest
You’d need Bezos level money to spin £1000+

Just 100 spins is 100,000k and 100 spins can be spun in about 5 minutes.

I don’t know much about the guy but he seems to base his stream persona on being ‘out there’, edgy and against the grain. Seems to moan every stream about the world, how liberal it is, even moans about twitch (yes the platform he is using to make his money). Therefore I think I’d take his ‘rants’ with a pinch of salt, they seem to bring in the viewers. I certainly don’t think it was worth the OP writing a blog on it.

Every bit of publicity is good publicity, right?
 
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I'm no expert on the subject but here's my take... Was mentioned above that he's a big streamer and Twitch partner, and has been for a while. He's fairly new to streaming slots I believe. I assume he streamed mostly FPS before slots. Before I discovered online slots at all (the good old days ?) I watched some COD / Warzone steaming here and there. One of the first times I watched a Warzone stream I remember being AMAZED at the amount of donations (straight cash) being handed out (and the dude I was watching had ~2k viewers tops, Trainwreck often has ~30k. There's also a shit ton of cheering with bits, and of course subs / gifted subs. He's also got at least a G-Fuel affiliate code off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more. I don't know exactly what kind of income this adds up to, but I imagine it's not a small number. I've watched the guy...my thoughts: he has $$$. He seems genuine and genuinely addicted, talks about being stuck 6 figures...he's mentioned still being stuck immediately after million plus hits, he often emphatically tells his viewers "DO NOT GAMBLE YOU WILL LOSE" (again, even right after huge hits).
I also can't think of any logical reason to make those Tweets if he didn't play with his own money.

I'm not gonna sit here and tell anyone that I know that he or any of them are real or fake, but there are people out there with $$$ and can/do make these wagers somewhere in the privacy of their own homes, and probably don't wanna brag about it. I don't know the guy's life story or net worth, but it's not inconceivable that he meets that criteria and just happened to stumble onto a gambling problem while already being a successful Twitch streamer. ??‍♂️
 

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Train wreck is a drama queen. You only gotta watch the video about how was bushcamped by another player in the game called RUST. Actualy funny.
 

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I'm no expert on the subject but here's my take... Was mentioned above that he's a big streamer and Twitch partner, and has been for a while. He's fairly new to streaming slots I believe. I assume he streamed mostly FPS before slots. Before I discovered online slots at all (the good old days ?) I watched some COD / Warzone steaming here and there. One of the first times I watched a Warzone stream I remember being AMAZED at the amount of donations (straight cash) being handed out (and the dude I was watching had ~2k viewers tops, Trainwreck often has ~30k. There's also a shit ton of cheering with bits, and of course subs / gifted subs. He's also got at least a G-Fuel affiliate code off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more. I don't know exactly what kind of income this adds up to, but I imagine it's not a small number. I've watched the guy...my thoughts: he has $$$. He seems genuine and genuinely addicted, talks about being stuck 6 figures...he's mentioned still being stuck immediately after million plus hits, he often emphatically tells his viewers "DO NOT GAMBLE YOU WILL LOSE" (again, even right after huge hits).
I also can't think of any logical reason to make those Tweets if he didn't play with his own money.

I'm not gonna sit here and tell anyone that I know that he or any of them are real or fake, but there are people out there with $$$ and can/do make these wagers somewhere in the privacy of their own homes, and probably don't wanna brag about it. I don't know the guy's life story or net worth, but it's not inconceivable that he meets that criteria and just happened to stumble onto a gambling problem while already being a successful Twitch streamer. ??‍♂️
Most, if not all, high rollers don't stream their play on Twitch. They gamble from from the privacy of their home without an audience.

There is one and one purpose only him streaming his slot play on Twitch and that is to advertise the casinos. Simple as. And with that then comes the question where the money that he plays with comes from........
 

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Most, if not all, high rollers don't stream their play on Twitch. They gamble from from the privacy of their home without an audience.

There is one and one purpose only him streaming his slot play on Twitch and that is to advertise the casinos. Simple as. And with that then comes the question where the money that he plays with comes from........
Your first point...I said in my post, nearly verbatim. And the 'where does his money come from'...did you read my post at all?? On top of what I mentioned already regarding that...successful people's money comes from all sorts of places. Do I know or feel any need to know what his possible revenue streams are, other than the few that have been mentioned (which are by no means peanuts)?...nope.

Let's say I'm stopped at a red light and a Bugatti Chiron pulls up next me.

Can I afford a $3,000,000 car, or possibly imagine what it's like to be able to do so? No shot. Would I question where the dude got the money for it? In the sense of, "Wanna share your secrets for success or whatever?"...sure. But do I need to see his tax returns to prove he can afford it? His license and registration to prove he didn't steal it? The serial number on the car to prove that it's real and not a kit car? No, no, and, no. Am I admiring the show (gawking at the car)? Absolutely.

There's 2 points here. There are (plenty of) people out there with different degrees of wealth that you or I can't imagine, with all sorts of life stories that got them to said wealth. Could be born into it. Could stumble upon it...
<Shit I just thought of an example...I've played poker, semi-regularly for 15+ years. In the poker room at the casino I play at regularly, there's a younger guy that frequently walks around in pink fuzzy bunny pajamas (literally), without a care in the world, and plays at the highest limit tables going on any given day, most days / everyday too. I don't know him personally, but a few of the other regs that play at us normal people stakes do... How does he afford to play 10/10 NL ++ every day? He threw some money into Bitcoin in its infancy (or close).>
/Tangent lol

Anyway...2nd point:

Who cares?

It's not inconceivable that Train and/or others are using real money. If you enjoy their content and think/assume it's real, then it's something enjoyable for you to watch in your spare time. If you think it's fake / smoke and mirrors or whatever, why waste your energy thinking about it?

My 2 cents
 

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Your first point...I said in my post, nearly verbatim. And the 'where does his money come from'...did you read my post at all?? On top of what I mentioned already regarding that...successful people's money comes from all sorts of places. Do I know or feel any need to know what his possible revenue streams are, other than the few that have been mentioned (which are by no means peanuts)?...nope.

Let's say I'm stopped at a red light and a Bugatti Chiron pulls up next me.

Can I afford a $3,000,000 car, or possibly imagine what it's like to be able to do so? No shot. Would I question where the dude got the money for it? In the sense of, "Wanna share your secrets for success or whatever?"...sure. But do I need to see his tax returns to prove he can afford it? His license and registration to prove he didn't steal it? The serial number on the car to prove that it's real and not a kit car? No, no, and, no. Am I admiring the show (gawking at the car)? Absolutely.

There's 2 points here. There are (plenty of) people out there with different degrees of wealth that you or I can't imagine, with all sorts of life stories that got them to said wealth. Could be born into it. Could stumble upon it...
<Shit I just thought of an example...I've played poker, semi-regularly for 15+ years. In the poker room at the casino I play at regularly, there's a younger guy that frequently walks around in pink fuzzy bunny pajamas (literally), without a care in the world, and plays at the highest limit tables going on any given day, most days / everyday too. I don't know him personally, but a few of the other regs that play at us normal people stakes do... How does he afford to play 10/10 NL ++ every day? He threw some money into Bitcoin in its infancy (or close).>
/Tangent lol

Anyway...2nd point:

Who cares?

It's not inconceivable that Train and/or others are using real money. If you enjoy their content and think/assume it's real, then it's something enjoyable for you to watch in your spare time. If you think it's fake / smoke and mirrors or whatever, why waste your energy thinking about it?

My 2 cents

Bottom line is that he does it for his own benefit. The casinos are using him as a marketing tool for which he gets paid. He doesn't risk any of his own money, in my opinion, which is not the reality of gambling.
 

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Bottom line is that he does it for his own benefit. The casinos are using him as a marketing tool for which he gets paid. He doesn't risk any of his own money, in my opinion, which is not the reality of gambling.
Does it for his own benefit...yup, capitalism at its finest. I mentioned in my first post that I've heard him emphatically say to viewers "DO NOT GAMBLE, YOU WILL LOSE MONEY. YOU WILL HATE LIFE." Etc etc multiple times...and I've probably watched his channel 5 times at most.

I should also mention I've never seen an affiliation code for a casino on his channel, which I know Twitch banned...but can't recall him ever mentioning to join any discord server, which is how all the others are getting around all that.

My opinion...his emotions seem real. Could it be "fake", or at least < 100% risk to him, I'm sure it's easy enough to pull off. But either way, why the hate? If you don't like him so much, don't waste your energy on it. For argument's sake let's say he is fake. What that amounts to is nothing more than a shady, albeit legal, business practice. I can think of much more egregious offenders...Google comes to mind ??.

Anyway...who cares? ??‍♂️

Cheers
 

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Does it for his own benefit...yup, capitalism at its finest. I mentioned in my first post that I've heard him emphatically say to viewers "DO NOT GAMBLE, YOU WILL LOSE MONEY. YOU WILL HATE LIFE." Etc etc multiple times...and I've probably watched his channel 5 times at most.

I should also mention I've never seen an affiliation code for a casino on his channel, which I know Twitch banned...but can't recall him ever mentioning to join any discord server, which is how all the others are getting around all that.

My opinion...his emotions seem real. Could it be "fake", or at least < 100% risk to him, I'm sure it's easy enough to pull off. But either way, why the hate? If you don't like him so much, don't waste your energy on it. For argument's sake let's say he is fake. What that amounts to is nothing more than a shady, albeit legal, business practice. I can think of much more egregious offenders...Google comes to mind ??.

Anyway...who cares? ??‍♂️

Cheers
We take those points, especially the latter one. The problem is that he's been earning money promoting gambling, even worse at dodgy operators then proceeds to decry the industry (probably having finally seen the penny drop about the maths of the games to his own cost!) which he was hitherto encouraging viewers to participate in.
These viewers witnessed crass and unrealistic play which in a few minutes would almost certainly cause them financial suicide had they been tempted, with no regulatory protection if using the anonymity of Bitcoin. The whole thing was a shitshow from moment one. Another point, if he was being funded to simply advertise the brand at $1000's per hour then the absence (or not) of a merchant's link would hardly be relevant. It's wholesale scummery.
 

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He seems genuine and genuinely addicted

I agree on both those points. I read that he gets paid something like $1m a month from Stake but plays with his own money. He is very visibly in the stranglehold of addiction so probably cannot stop even if he wanted to.
 
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