Top Game and an extra monkey in Crazy Jungle

maphesto

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In Crazy Jungle there are 3 monkeys in reel 2-4 and if you get them in a winning line you will come to the bonus game.

This means that they are worthless in all other combinations.

At this point I want to say that Black Diamond Casino is a serious place for players. I have used them since their start earlier this year.

However:

I have once before found an "extra" monkey in the game "Crazy Jungle" and that was when I ran out of luck totally at Rome Casino.

I didn`t catch the extra monkey with picture at that time. I was too furious over the loss I was making when the live chat told me the wrong amount during the WR.

But now i did during a screen recording at Black Diamond. I just tested my new installed software.

Why is there a monkey on the fifth reel when monkeys only have a "paying roll" at reel 2-4?
 
You only need 3 or more monkeys to trigger the bonus round. They do however need to be on a payline. Paytable is as follows:

3 monkeys 30-150
4 monkeys 100-500
5 monkeys 150-750

Mike
 
At 50 states casino (also Topgame) it says the monkey is on the 2 3 4 lines! So how is it then??? It is very odd that the layout is different from casino by casino:) Moreover I guess the inner the monkey is (towards line 1), the lower the winning chances will be, as it will take the place away from other winning symbols. :rolleyes:
 
Well, oblviously the two differs. And as maphesto provided a screenshot of Black Diamond payouts, you can see that crazily there are some monkeys on the 5th line as well, that is not mentioned in his rules. And the fact that you have a different paytable, Wild, that makes this more interesting. Well, so far I haven't seen such things. It is a software error + the same games differ. Where are your schreenshots from, Wild? :rolleyes:
 
Well, oblviously the two differs. And as maphesto provided a screenshot of Black Diamond payouts, you can see that crazily there are some monkeys on the 5th line as well, that is not mentioned in his rules. And the fact that you have a different paytable, Wild, that makes this more interesting. Well, so far I haven't seen such things. It is a software error + the same games differ. Where are your schreenshots from, Wild? :rolleyes:

Also Black Diamond and it clearly says "Bonus Symbols: The bonus feature is triggered when 3 or more monkey symbols appear on any active payline". I have not yet played Top Game software for real money, just play mode as I am in the process of putting the software through its paces. So when I see anomalies like this example it doesn't exactly fill me with confidence!

Mike
 
Also Black Diamond and it clearly says "Bonus Symbols: The bonus feature is triggered when 3 or more monkey symbols appear on any active payline".

Mike

but how can it be you have a different payout scheme from the same casino???
 
Now watch this:

Casino States, Top Game, game: Crazy Jungle

The rules are the same: monkeys appear on the 2,3,4 reels, and in case they are on a winning line the bonus round is activated. Well, definately there is another one:

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Moreover, that 4th one doesn't worth anything, for example this combination didn't pay anything to me, however this is also on a winning line:

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It means that 4th monkey on the 4th playline doesn't have any role. An I had situations when I had 4 symbol in a row from left to right on a winning line, and the 5th place was taken by the monkey. So that 4th monkey obviously just made my winning chances worse, and took the place from a possible 5th symbol on that playline.

Top Game should care about what they do. I am very diesappointed, because their slots are cool, both regarding sounds and graphics. Very enjoyable. But such errors make the chance of winning worse. Not talking about that several affiliate sites advertise no deposit bonuses for Top Game Casinos, several of which are not real no deposit bonuses, but you need to deposit and wager your own money as well (usually deposit at least 25 and wager it at least 5x, or wager deposit+first deposit bonus 20x, in case you claim that too). Last time I was very happy when I completed the wr for such a bonus and was ready to cash out the max allowed amount, when I was told I need to deposit an wager more. What a disappointment. So Top Game should look around the bit to see what their affiliates are doing, and also take care about the proper functioning of their slots.
 
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I think you will find that the monkey symbols must line up from left to right on an active payline to trigger the bonus. They are not scatter symbols.

Similar to Playtechs bonus slot "Azteca" and MGs "Jungle Jim" where the 4th and 5th bonus symbol only become active if the first 3 are triggered on a payline. However these 2 examples are different in that "Azteca" will reward you much higher if you hit 4 and 5.

Unlike the MG slot "What on Earth" where 3 or more rockets only have to line up anywhere next to eachother to trigger the feature. This Crazy Jungle slot seems to be very similar to MGs "Big Khauna".

Mike
 
The payout scheme I provided from Black Diamond looks exactly the same at it does at 50states and Gold Vegas.

Check the payout from the bonus game!
According to the other payout scheme(Wildfire7 shows this earlier) 3 bonus monkeys can give 30-150 coins.

I hit the bonus game with three monkeys and it clearly gan give up to 300 coins(check below) which means that I am playing the version without the possibility to have use for the monkey on the fifth reel.
 
Hello All,

Just wanted to let you know im on this right now. Senior management have been made aware of this thread and are having the technical department check everything to see what is going on.

I will of course update you the second I know more.

Best Regards


David

Oh btw my thanks go out to Jasminebed for taking the time to send me a PM and alerting me to this thread :)
 
@topgame: Thanks!

I have tried it at Thebes aswell. Everything looks exactly as they are at Black Diamond.

There is a monkey at the fifth reel.

I got the bonusgame when 3 monkeys were at the bottom of reel 2-4 which means that there were 2 winning lines and I won 600 coins.

I haven`t seen a monkey at reel one yet.
 
Originally Posted by Wildfire7 View Post
You only need 3 or more monkeys to trigger the bonus round. They do however need to be on a payline. Paytable is as follows:

3 monkeys 30-150
4 monkeys 100-500
5 monkeys 150-750

Mike

Wow.


150 coins MAX for 3 monkeys? What's the use? That's only 10x your bet. I thought TG raised their payouts long ago, but I guess I was mistaken.
 
I think you will find that the monkey symbols must line up from left to right on an active payline to trigger the bonus. They are not scatter symbols.

Similar to Playtechs bonus slot "Azteca" and MGs "Jungle Jim" where the 4th and 5th bonus symbol only become active if the first 3 are triggered on a payline. However these 2 examples are different in that "Azteca" will reward you much higher if you hit 4 and 5.

Unlike the MG slot "What on Earth" where 3 or more rockets only have to line up anywhere next to eachother to trigger the feature. This Crazy Jungle slot seems to be very similar to MGs "Big Khauna".

Mike

Even if you are right on this, there is still an error, because in that case the paytable is misleading:rolleyes:
 
Wow.


150 coins MAX for 3 monkeys? What's the use? That's only 10x your bet. I thought TG raised their payouts long ago, but I guess I was mistaken.

I think that payout is not valid any more. In Black Diamond, 50 States and Casino states the actual payout scheme is different, it is what maphesto posted. Wild, I still cannot understand how your screenshot can be different. How old is that screenshot? :confused:
 
Wow.


150 coins MAX for 3 monkeys? What's the use? That's only 10x your bet. I thought TG raised their payouts long ago, but I guess I was mistaken.

The bonus games don't generally pay all that great, except once in a while. The real money is in getting a hit at the right time - i.e., five blue spheres on Diabolo or five elephants on jungle.
 
The bonus games don't generally pay all that great, except once in a while. The real money is in getting a hit at the right time - i.e., five blue spheres on Diabolo or five elephants on jungle.

At Top Game - at least at States and Black Diamond casino - the slots pay out well even with the little amount of reward on the bonus spin. Interestingly more 5 in a row combinations fell in than at other places that makes the pay out statistic better if you play. Anyway this Monkey bonus at crazy jungle is between about 100-600, and the reward palette you can choose from is based at how many lines covers the bonus Monkey combination on the reels. The more lines the more bonus. Or at least I guess this is how it works... But overally the payout is not that bad on Crazy Jungle.
 
Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that the technical people got back to me and they assure me all is working as it should. The different screenshot appears to be taken from a previous version of Crazy Jungle and hence is different.

Kind Regards



David
 
Do you mean that they admit that the monkey on the 5th reel is useless for the player?

I dont get it.

Have they told you why the monkey shows at the fifth reel?
 
Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that the technical people got back to me and they assure me all is working as it should. The different screenshot appears to be taken from a previous version of Crazy Jungle and hence is different.

Kind Regards



David

Quite an ambiguous post! Which SS are you referring to??? Of course one is going to be different; but which one??
 
Hi All,

Ok so my last post might have caused some confusion so I just wanted to clarify.

The actual game is the same at all casinos, the payout table of which a screenshot was posted which differs from the current paytable.

Since im still not sure where/when that screenshot was taken it would seem to be either an old screenshot and/or a TG client had not updated their paytables on a site.

Hope that helps clarify things.

On another note this will probably be my last post before xmas so I would just wish you all a merry xmas :)
 
This is from Today..Is this the correct paytable?? I also got the monkey on the last reel which is useless..so why even have it there except to keep from having any winning lines hit..it is a dead reel during bonus round IMO..which causes the payouts to change...yes?

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There really ought to be no need to alter a slots payout after it has gone live. For what purpose has this one changed? Basically what this means is everytime I play these slots then I have to look at the paytable incase it has changed overnight.

Any flaws and tweaks that are deemed neccasary should be ironed out before the game goes live. Otherwise the game that is launched is merely a beta version, and the player a guinea pig.

Mike
 

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