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babs7262

Banned User
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Oct 9, 2006
Location
PA
Hello

Ok, I am going to try my very best to be objective here because I really have no beef with TIV and think John is a real nice person.

Is it just me or what? I go on the Winner Screenshots section day after day and see all of these Scary Rich wins. If John just looks at the surface, it will look like I just deposited 3 times at $25 but in reality, I have deposited at most or all of the Rival Casinos, not just TIV. This is why I am wondering.

Everyone raves about Rival and I want in on the fun. Have you ever tried to like something so bad but cant? I want to be part of this rival thing going but it's impossible when I make all of these deposits and not only NEVER get bonus rounds or even 2 frankensteins on scary rich but never had a w/d at ANY of these Rival Casinos.

Its a shame and on top of it, as most of you know , I only deposit $20 at most at a casino in the morning so Im even going the extra mile to accept the $25 minimum deposit and that's huge for me lol!

The ONLY thing I seem to get anything on is the 3 reel bars and sevens slot, the one with the diamond. Thats all good but I want to play the reel of fortune and the dog pound and cleopatra and scary rich and I get NADA.

Is it just me? Am I depositing on bad days? How are you guys getting bonus after bonus on Scary Rich when I cant get one, and Im a low roller, so one would think I would get even more because my bets are so low!

Please tell me Im not alone. John..dont take this personal, I like how you answered my PM's in the past so quickly and you were very nice but something's gotta give here! Im getting jealous
 

jas2587

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Joined
Apr 25, 2006
Location
FL
No it is not just you

the screen shots make ya drool
I know they do me an I wonder
wow hope im next

then bust


Good Luck

Cindy
 

anniemac

Ueber Meister
PABnoaccred
MM
Joined
Jan 30, 2007
Location
Texas, USA
Scary Rich is feast or famine. I have had some awesome hits on it and cashed out. However, it is not a game for the faint of heart. I used to deposit large amounts and play the max ($2). After taking lots of beatings, I deposit small amounts and play small ($.20-$.60) and I don't use the bonuses much either because if I do manage to get a hit, I want to be able to cash out because I will lose it all if I keep playing.

When the Rivals first came to be, they paid great. Now, not so much if at all. It is so sad that a very good group of casinos have gone the way of all the others. This is not sour grapes or a bad loser. I like the Rival casinos but I would like a kiss before I get sc**wed. :D
 

bb28

Dormant Account
Joined
Nov 18, 2006
Location
US
Babs.....this is just my opinion about Rival and you know that I'm pretty much a low roller myself so I do understand where you are coming from. I played Scary several times and wondered what the big deal was, then I hit.....and good. ;) Now more times than not when I play scary, I think geez that was just a big waste of time and money. I think people are correct in saying that it's very high variance and it takes a pretty good bank roll to play......unless you just happen to get very lucky. My other favorite and the one that I have more consistent but much smaller wins on is Love & Money.
I've also had a few wins on Cleo and once ended up with about 140 free spins but taking into account the number of free spins, didn't win squat. LOL
My favorite slots used to be RTG but lately I've been playing mostly Rival's but they have been cold for me lately. I had uninstalled all but two of the MG's quite a while back and hardly ever deposited at the two I had left and just recently uninstalled the other two. For the money I was putting in MG, I felt they had the lowest return of any. MG never offered me squat in loyalties, I think the only players they appreciate are their high rollers. One thing that keeps me going back to the Rival's is the loyalty bonuses.....it's really nice to get a freebie thrown at you a couple times a week, :thumbsup::thumbsup:although all of them don't follow the same policy about that. :eek: One more thing.......I've uninstalled 2 of the Rivals I had on my puter......strange to me how they seemed so different, in more ways than one.
I've played at 3 Dice a few times but to me....it's much like Scary, high variance and my bankroll hasn't ever lasted long, so I seldom deposit there. With my recent problem with __ (see my thread in America The Beautiful), I'm about ready to give it up. I'm gonna give Netspend a try and if that doesn't work out, I think it's time to hang it up.

BB:):)
 

missmayda

Dormant account
Joined
Jun 20, 2007
Location
There
I Agree!

I closed my rival accounts a while back due to the awful problems with the software being so buggy-just got plain frustrated. But I LOVED the games!

I read about the upgrades and went back to TIV. Played my usual deposit, always with small bets (notorious low roller) and the features were very few and far between...even on the Circus game, which by far was the highest feature hitting slot they offered. I even noticed that now when you do get a feature, the scatters dont pay...unless you hit them during the free roll...Although the new software is fast & smooth, it certainly is alot stingier (sp) :confused:

So sad.:eek2:
 

brianzz

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Joined
Feb 2, 2006
Location
TN
I've lost every single time I deposited at TIV. Never even got ahead.

Just an FYI if you keep seperate accounts for gambling.. on my last few deposits at TIV the processer added an extra quarter to the deposit. Glad I keep an eye on the gambling account otherwise it would have gone to the negative for an extra $30 fee.
 

hippo925

Dormant account
Joined
Jun 13, 2006
Location
so cal
i can totally understand the frustration of seeing great screenshots and not being able to hit one to join in on the fun. In my case, i have deposited quite a bit and luckily, my cashouts have surpassed my deposits and i have been up for a while. This is definitely due to scary rich which is my favorite game but i don't expect to be winning forever because it is an extremely high variance game.

To put things in perspective, i usually bet .60 and start with $200 or $300. that may seem like a big balance just to bet .60, but i've learned i get quite a bit of entertainment even if i don't hit the three wilds. it only takes one spin in any one bonus to create that "wow" moment, but they do happen a lot as seen in the winner screenshots. you need to guarantee yourself a lot of spins and that means betting low if you start with a small balance.

One piece of advice i can give is to play scary rich with a nice bonus. if you don't hit, at least you get a lot more play time. if you do hit, change to the art heist or another low variance game to meet the wr and then cashout.

the only rival i play at is thisisvegas for many reasons (though i'm sure some of the other ones are good)...their manager, John, being the primary reason.

All i can say is that it is a huge thrill to hit the right bonus on scary rich and i hope everyone here gets a chance to hit one! (i also hope i keep hitting them too, lol.);)

ps babs, if you're still planning a party after a big win, i really believe scary rich is the game to do it on... even on small bets (look at the reels and the possibilities will blow your mind.)
 

ballysdb

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Apr 28, 2006
Location
Long Island NY
I find that it is feast or famine as well. But the feast!...The feast is sooooo good! At least for me.

I find John to be very generous and very accessible(sp?). That is a big reason why I play there.:)
 

chuchu59

gambling addict
PABnonaccred
CAG
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SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
:mad:
Hello

Ok, I am going to try my very best to be objective here because I really have no beef with TIV and think John is a real nice person.

Is it just me or what? I go on the Winner Screenshots section day after day and see all of these Scary Rich wins. If John just looks at the surface, it will look like I just deposited 3 times at $25 but in reality, I have deposited at most or all of the Rival Casinos, not just TIV. This is why I am wondering.

Everyone raves about Rival and I want in on the fun. Have you ever tried to like something so bad but cant? I want to be part of this rival thing going but it's impossible when I make all of these deposits and not only NEVER get bonus rounds or even 2 frankensteins on scary rich but never had a w/d at ANY of these Rival Casinos.

Its a shame and on top of it, as most of you know , I only deposit $20 at most at a casino in the morning so Im even going the extra mile to accept the $25 minimum deposit and that's huge for me lol!

The ONLY thing I seem to get anything on is the 3 reel bars and sevens slot, the one with the diamond. Thats all good but I want to play the reel of fortune and the dog pound and cleopatra and scary rich and I get NADA.

Is it just me? Am I depositing on bad days? How are you guys getting bonus after bonus on Scary Rich when I cant get one, and Im a low roller, so one would think I would get even more because my bets are so low!

Please tell me Im not alone. John..dont take this personal, I like how you answered my PM's in the past so quickly and you were very nice but something's gotta give here! Im getting jealous

Babs,

Is your account enabled to receive promos? I understand they give out a freebie of $25 today the 19th though I dont see it in the cashier yet.


Correction: The freebie cannot be claimed if no deposit had been made with the preceding week according to live chat. Well, I only received my withdrawals a short time ago and didnt deposit during the past 2 days so there is nothing for me.:mad:
 

brianzz

Dormant account
Joined
Feb 2, 2006
Location
TN
Ahhh.. a cloaked freebie.

Not a freebie if you were/are required to deposit to get it. My last deposit there was the 11th, guess I'm out too.
 

Slotster!

I predict a riot.
Joined
Oct 17, 2004
Location
Location, Location!
Winner Screenshots should be viewed as just that, the rare occasion that people do good.

Inbetween there's an AWFUL lot of losing for those beauties to come along...

Forever and a day there'll be threads and discussions about some people who have done well on a specific slot -- and some that can't hit a thing... That's slots.
 

classymom

Dormant account
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Location
Port St lucie Florida
Hello

Ok, I am going to try my very best to be objective here because I really have no beef with TIV and think John is a real nice person.

Is it just me or what? I go on the Winner Screenshots section day after day and see all of these Scary Rich wins. If John just looks at the surface, it will look like I just deposited 3 times at $25 but in reality, I have deposited at most or all of the Rival Casinos, not just TIV. This is why I am wondering.

Everyone raves about Rival and I want in on the fun. Have you ever tried to like something so bad but cant? I want to be part of this rival thing going but it's impossible when I make all of these deposits and not only NEVER get bonus rounds or even 2 frankensteins on scary rich but never had a w/d at ANY of these Rival Casinos.

Its a shame and on top of it, as most of you know , I only deposit $20 at most at a casino in the morning so Im even going the extra mile to accept the $25 minimum deposit and that's huge for me lol!

The ONLY thing I seem to get anything on is the 3 reel bars and sevens slot, the one with the diamond. Thats all good but I want to play the reel of fortune and the dog pound and cleopatra and scary rich and I get NADA.

Is it just me? Am I depositing on bad days? How are you guys getting bonus after bonus on Scary Rich when I cant get one, and Im a low roller, so one would think I would get even more because my bets are so low!

Please tell me Im not alone. John..dont take this personal, I like how you answered my PM's in the past so quickly and you were very nice but something's gotta give here! Im getting jealous


you have just explained my gambling @ 3 Dice - I do not deposit any large amounts when I play but even when I play tourneys I can't hit crap so I too dont get all the screenshots from 3 dice ( I know Im just jealous ) I would like just once to try out the quick payout that everyone raves about @ 3 dice :confused:
 

BingoT

Nurses love to give shots
Joined
Dec 16, 2004
Location
Palm Bay Florida
Wow the best I ever got at 3D Whip Tee Do
I think All Rivals are better I think.
At3D-1.jpg
 

thisisvegas

Dormant account
Joined
Oct 18, 2007
Location
Canada
Quick post then I am off for the day (funeral), Scary Rich is a high variance game meaning you'll catch a big win out of nowhere or not much at all. All I know is some players said they wanted to see a game where they could win something bigger instead of small wins so some of our recent slots have these larger jackpots. Sorry I haven't read any of the other comments so apologies if I missed anything I am really out the door now.

John
 

BingoT

Nurses love to give shots
Joined
Dec 16, 2004
Location
Palm Bay Florida
lol RobWin it was a quick shot at the time.My son had the camera in his hand and he just took it.I just found it in the camera.
3D was not worth me saving it on my computer and my time.

John my thoughts and prayers are with you
Please accept my deepest sympathy
 

babs7262

Banned User
Joined
Oct 9, 2006
Location
PA
Quick post then I am off for the day (funeral), Scary Rich is a high variance game meaning you'll catch a big win out of nowhere or not much at all. All I know is some players said they wanted to see a game where they could win something bigger instead of small wins so some of our recent slots have these larger jackpots. Sorry I haven't read any of the other comments so apologies if I missed anything I am really out the door now.

John

Sorry for your loss John
 

missmayda

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Joined
Jun 20, 2007
Location
There
Not really about Scary Rich for me

Quick post then I am off for the day (funeral), Scary Rich is a high variance game meaning you'll catch a big win out of nowhere or not much at all. All I know is some players said they wanted to see a game where they could win something bigger instead of small wins so some of our recent slots have these larger jackpots. Sorry I haven't read any of the other comments so apologies if I missed anything I am really out the door now.

John

I love Scary Rich...and understand the varience there...but for me I was just amazed at how the entire casino changed after the upgrade: i.e., scatters dont pay unless you hit during a free spin, the overall tightness of the features, and the lower pay scales on ALL games. I have not played the other Rivals yet, TIV has always been my favorite. Has this been the case with other Rivals as well (those that have played the others)?
 

dirtydealin

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Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Location
South of Heaven
I didn't get the freebie either

:mad:

Babs,

Is your account enabled to receive promos? I understand they give out a freebie of $25 today the 19th though I dont see it in the cashier yet.


Correction: The freebie cannot be claimed if no deposit had been made with the preceding week according to live chat. Well, I only received my withdrawals a short time ago and didnt deposit during the past 2 days so there is nothing for me.:mad:


I didn't get the promo either, I deposited a few times this too. I just sent an Email to CS, hopefully I'll get it before the end of the day.

DD
 

bb28

Dormant Account
Joined
Nov 18, 2006
Location
US
I inquired with TIV CS via chat about the freebie and this is the answer I got. :confused:
They don't know what the qualifications are, nor do they know who is qualified. If you are........you'll receive an email advising you. I'm really surprised that the CS people aren't privy to this information.
:confused::confused:
Strange uh!
 

NASHVEGAS

Banned User - flamming, disrespecting admin,
Joined
Dec 10, 2006
Location
MERS
I have wagered I would now assume based on the past figures I was provided in the millions (like 10) at TIV and I have been working with John on some figures mostly with Blackjack (where I have had tremendous runs but just as bad of takedowns) but also have some figures on Scary Rich (which is not a feast or famine game, it is a fun game but the only feast you could possibly have is an early big hit and never play the game again----I have often played MG slots at $45/spin and even higher where MG allows----I will not spin higher than $2 on Scary Rich for a reason, the risk of ruin on that slot is higher than any slot I have experienced including TUT )........................ That said, John is the ASSET of TIV but there are many fallacies at TIV with the one of the biggest being the player's winnings having to remain in their account (assuming a greater than a $4000 win which can be withdrawn and paid weekly). For example, you win $20K, you can remove and be paid only $4K per week but the remaining $16K can not be removed from your account as it will have to sit in your account for weeksssssssssss whereby then another $4K can be removed after another week and paid leaving $12k staring at you for another week, rinse then repeat,lol (get the picture). I have asked many times and also suggested that my entire balance at least be removed from my account and then TIV/Rivals can pay according to their (TIV) terms of disbursing $4K per week. I know of no other casinos that will not allow you to remove your entire balance at anytime from your account (assuming no wagering requirements) but TIV and I assume the other Rivals.....To this day, I have only had this question/issue, that I have asked all (ok not all but more than the fingers on a hand and some more than once), responded to in any form whatsoever ONCE ONLY AND THAT WAS BY ONE CSR (other CSR's as well as others also avoid) and the answer was because of software (WRONG ANSWER). All others (yes all) do not even acknowledge the question/issue with an answer or response....I was hoping I could adapt but the reason TIV/Rivals will not remove your balance at least to me is now obvious:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.....Moreover, it may be considered ROGUE by some....The terms simply imo only imply disbursement amount restrictions but I suppose one could argue that any excess amount over your weekly disbursement amount must ALWAYS REMAIN in your account as a hidden implied term but in no way is it clear. Furthermore, there, for obvious reasons, appears to be no flexiability even with what I consider at best an implied term................................................. THAT SAID AND REALIZING THE DOUBLE STANDARD (see above), I REALLY BECAME AGGRAVATED (after reading many other's posts) THIS WEEK AS IT SEEMS FINE (AT LEAST BY RIVALS) FOR TIV/RIVALS TO VIOLATE THEIR CLEARLY STATED TERM OF PAYMENT IN 48 HOURS which the US excuse is not an excuse this time (with very little comments from any RIVALS reps) ......John shared with me a day or two before he mentioned on the forum that he had some serious family issues so in retrospect, I believe John would have posted earlier but he had more important priorities, rightfully so, and I have expressed my sorrow to him via PM.....If the truth be known, I have no way of knowing if John really knows why these payment problems are occuring but John is about the only one whose real integrity I would not doubt.....May have stepped on some toes and do I expect some of my post to be a concern to others, prolly not, but hopefully there is some value (or maybe knowledge to be gained) from this post! :)
 

anniemac

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Location
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I haven't a clue as to why the other Rivals are having a bad time paying winners but Sloto'cash is not. I made a withdrawal yesterday and it was in my QT account within 3 hours. Asked CS to flush, which they handled and didn't tell me they would message accounting and within 3 hours it was in QT account. I know that Sloto'cash uses their own processor unlike the others which must all go through Pantasia. So who knows? If one can pay, why not all?
 

RobWin

closed account
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A Vault!
I have wagered I would now assume based on the past figures I was provided in the millions (like 10) at TIV and I have been working with John on some figures mostly with Blackjack (where I have had tremendous runs but just as bad of takedowns) but also have some figures on Scary Rich (which is not a feast or famine game, it is a fun game but the only feast you could possibly have is an early big hit and never play the game again----I have often played MG slots at $45/spin and even higher where MG allows----I will not spin higher than $2 on Scary Rich for a reason, the risk of ruin on that slot is higher than any slot I have experienced including TUT )........................ That said, John is the ASSET of TIV but there are many fallacies at TIV with the one of the biggest being the player's winnings having to remain in their account (assuming a greater than a $4000 win which can be withdrawn and paid weekly). For example, you win $20K, you can remove and be paid only $4K per week but the remaining $16K can not be removed from your account as it will have to sit in your account for weeksssssssssss whereby then another $4K can be removed after another week and paid leaving $12k staring at you for another week, rinse then repeat,lol (get the picture). I have asked many times and also suggested that my entire balance at least be removed from my account and then TIV/Rivals can pay according to their (TIV) terms of disbursing $4K per week. I know of no other casinos that will not allow you to remove your entire balance at anytime from your account (assuming no wagering requirements) but TIV and I assume the other Rivals.....To this day, I have only had this question/issue, that I have asked all (ok not all but more than the fingers on a hand and some more than once), responded to in any form whatsoever ONCE ONLY AND THAT WAS BY ONE CSR (other CSR's as well as others also avoid) and the answer was because of software (WRONG ANSWER). All others (yes all) do not even acknowledge the question/issue with an answer or response....I was hoping I could adapt but the reason TIV/Rivals will not remove your balance at least to me is now obvious:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.....Moreover, it may be considered ROGUE by some....The terms simply imo only imply disbursement amount restrictions but I suppose one could argue that any excess amount over your weekly disbursement amount must ALWAYS REMAIN in your account as a hidden implied term but in no way is it clear. Furthermore, there, for obvious reasons, appears to be no flexiability even with what I consider at best an implied term................................................. THAT SAID AND REALIZING THE DOUBLE STANDARD (see above), I REALLY BECAME AGGRAVATED (after reading many other's posts) THIS WEEK AS IT SEEMS FINE (AT LEAST BY RIVALS) FOR TIV/RIVALS TO VIOLATE THEIR CLEARLY STATED TERM OF PAYMENT IN 48 HOURS which the US excuse is not an excuse this time (with very little comments from any RIVALS reps) ......John shared with me a day or two before he mentioned on the forum that he had some serious family issues so in retrospect, I believe John would have posted earlier but he had more important priorities, rightfully so, and I have expressed my sorrow to him via PM.....If the truth be known, I have no way of knowing if John really knows why these payment problems are occuring but John is about the only one whose real integrity I would not doubt.....May have stepped on some toes and do I expect some of my post to be a concern to others, prolly not, but hopefully there is some value (or maybe knowledge to be gained) from this post! :)


So look at it like this Nash...that 30K you just cashed out will FINALLY be totally paid out to you in about 2 (TWO) MONTHS !! :eek::eek2::eek2: Somewhere around the last week in June most likely...what are you complaining about...if you were at one of the Crystal Palace Group casinos it would take just as long...:rolleyes::D
 

bb28

Dormant Account
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Location
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So look at it like this Nash...that 30K you just cashed out will FINALLY be totally paid out to you in about 2 (TWO) MONTHS !! :eek::eek2::eek2: Somewhere around the last week in June most likely...what are you complaining about...if you were at one of the Crystal Palace Group casinos it would take just as long...:rolleyes::D

I assume you are kidding, right Rob???
I think one important point that Nash was trying to make is.....there are very few people who have enough self control to look at the amount of moolah every day for two months and stay in control of it. If the truth be told.......I bet the majority of people here at CM couldn't do it. How many have had a big win and then they have turned around and lost it all back because of a lack of self control? Rival's policy of leaving it in the cashier and then mix in human nature makes it unlikely that they will have to pay out many huge wins. I would guess it's a rare person who could forgo the temptation of leaving it just sitting there. I'll admit.....I don't think I could if I had to look at it every day.
It's as simple as that, don't you think?
 

RobWin

closed account
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I assume you are kidding, right Rob???
I think one important point that Nash was trying to make is.....there are very few people who have enough self control to look at the amount of moolah every day for two months and stay in control of it. If the truth be told.......I bet the majority of people here at CM couldn't do it. How many have had a big win and then they have turned around and lost it all back because of a lack of self control? Rival's policy of leaving it in the cashier and then mix in human nature makes it unlikely that they will have to pay out many huge wins. I would guess it's a rare person who could forgo the temptation of leaving it just sitting there. I'll admit.....I don't think I could if I had to look at it every day.
It's as simple as that, don't you think?

Nah, I wasn't kidding...but I was being sarcastic...who the hell wants to have to wait that long to get their damn money...could you imagine Harrah's telling you to come back every Thursday for the next 8 (EIGHT) WEEKS and pick up a small portion of your cashout ??? That's just ASININE...:what:

If anyone has self control in here...I would think that Nash would rank in the top five for self control...and I know that from our similar backgrounds...Nash is going to show them the self control aspect that I speak of here and then we will all know if there is any cash flow issue over at Rival...Right Nash,,, we're behind you buddy !! :thumbsup:;)

Just so that I am very clear here...I Clearly understand where Nash is coming from on this issue and Clearly understand the important point he was making here and I definitely agree with him on this issue as I have now stated that three different ways !!

....I was hoping I could adapt but the reason TIV/Rivals will not remove your balance at least to me is now obvious:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.....Moreover, it may be considered ROGUE by some....The terms simply imo only imply disbursement amount restrictions but I suppose one could argue that any excess amount over your weekly disbursement amount must ALWAYS REMAIN in your account as a hidden implied term but in no way is it clear.

That highlighted RED statement above that Nash made was why I used the comparison of the infamous Crystal Palace Group !!
 
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