tired of CPU 100% ?

[frosty3907]

Why don't they optimize these games to use the GPU instead of constantly hammering the CPU?

My machines can play the latest games without breaking a sweat but the instant I load a simple 2d slot it's 100% CPU usage and fans into overdrive, with crappy frame rates to boot.

With the $$$ they're bringing in it would be trivial to add a directx or opengl renderer.

So why don't they?

 

[RichieRespin]

I agree, the CPU usage on some poorly optimized games makes me sad.

However, I think the operators want "everyone" to be able to play the games, and that means catering to 10 year old laptops with 10 year old drivers, where the hardware accelerated modes simply does not exist, or cant be initiated.

One example could be seen on here: When NetEnt released their Aliens game, which is using "real 3D", whatever that means, there were a lot of complaints from players with old computers, old drivers, old browsers, issues with Chrome, etc, etc. And operators don't want to deal with complaints, so the games gets made with the lowest common denominator in mind. In other words, old Flash tech that runs on the CPU only. very sad for us used to also playing high end PC game titles, but such is the state of the business, unfortunately.

 

[Balthazar]

I agree, the CPU usage on some poorly optimized games makes me sad.

However, I think the operators want "everyone" to be able to play the games, and that means catering to 10 year old laptops with 10 year old drivers, where the hardware accelerated modes simply does not exist, or cant be initiated.

Just try to play Avalon II or Girls with Guns on a 10 year old laptop, I dare you.

 

[RichieRespin]

Just try to play Avalon II or Girls with Guns on a 10 year old laptop, I dare you.

Haha, or Jurassic Park at Unibet, in Full Screen mode. Kills even my good laptop.

But the difference is between running very slow (which these games does) and not run at all, not even start, which is what happened to Aliens. People got free rounds that they couldn't even play. I'm guessing "running slow" is more ok than "not running at all"?

 

[frosty3907]

The requirements for Jurassic park are a quad core 3ghz+ + 3gb ram, which is insane, when even the most paltry of discreet video cards would run it better.

I'd wager 99%+ of people have at least a 256mb dx9 card which would run these fine.

And they could leave the old CPU renderer in as an option if they're worried about compatibility.

The reason I bring this up is that I basically miss the entire t-rex feature (not that it matters with the crap it was paying) on Jurassic even with graphics set to basic on a relatively new laptop with discreet GPU.

They could also add some Australian mirrors for there downloads they're crazy slow (30 minute download).

 

[frosty3907]

Oh and also: you COULD play these games on a ten year old laptop if they would utilize directx, it's amazing how much better graphics cards are at shuffling screen data about than CPUs, almost as if that's what they are for.

 

[RichieRespin]

Oh and also: you COULD play these games on a ten year old laptop if they would utilize directx, it's amazing how much better graphics cards are at shuffling screen data about than CPUs, almost as if that's what they are for.

The thing is that there is no built in support to draw directly to a DirectX or OpenGL layer in a browser window. You have to go through Flash's own internal wrapper system for the hardware layer and then you end up with both Flash itself and the browser host working against you.

The "old school" Flash drawing system is what works (but very slow, as can be witnessed in these new 100% CPU games).
The hardware accelerated graphics systems that just recently has started to pop up, which uses the GPU support you are asking for, (I'm mentioning Aliens from NetEnt here, because it is the only such game I know of) runs into a ton of problems. This can be witnessed by the number of rightfully annoyed players reporting that the game is impossible to start in the Aliens thread here on CM. I tried to help out there a bit, since I have a background in graphics programming, but the limitations are there.

I fully agree with you, though. As an owner of good PC hardware, I would love the games to make a lot better use of the GPU.

 

[frosty3907]

Oh yeah I was talking about download casino not web browser although you could probably do it through silverlight or html5 or some nonsense but yeah, download casino.

It's just embarrassing how slow these things run.

 

[RichieRespin]

Oh yeah I was talking about download casino not web browser although you could probably do it through silverlight or html5 or some nonsense but yeah, download casino.

It's just embarrassing how slow these things run.

Ah, ok. Yeah, the download casino solutions should definitely be using the GPU better. I only play through browsers, so I guess that's why I defaulted to talk about those games

 

[vinylweatherman]

The requirements for Jurassic park are a quad core 3ghz+ + 3gb ram, which is insane, when even the most paltry of discreet video cards would run it better.

I'd wager 99%+ of people have at least a 256mb dx9 card which would run these fine.

And they could leave the old CPU renderer in as an option if they're worried about compatibility.

The reason I bring this up is that I basically miss the entire t-rex feature (not that it matters with the crap it was paying) on Jurassic even with graphics set to basic on a relatively new laptop with discreet GPU.

They could also add some Australian mirrors for there downloads they're crazy slow (30 minute download).

Not only insane, but blows a big hole in the argument that they have to cater for everybody. It would be MORE likely that an older machine could cope if the GPU was used, as many entry level machines STILL don't achieve those CPU standards, and many people buy these "budget" machines because they just want to use the internet, not play Call of Duty.

Microgaming download is the worst offender, and I have had to buy machines at the bottom end of "gaming rig" specs to get decent performance. My latest machine was closer to the TOP end, and here it became obvious that it was CPU power that mattered, not GPU. An overclocked quad core I5 has Microgaming clients sorted for now, but once I have around 8 games running simultaneously, the CPU hits the 100% mark, the GPU wonders what all the fuss is about.

It would seem that for casinos, the aim should be to get the very best CPU, but not worry too much about a powerful GPU, this can be added later if casino software developers change tack and use GPU rendering.

For Microgaming, a large SSD is helpful as this is where all the casino files end up, and there is no choice about where to put them, they end up on the C: drive by default, which in modern machines is often a relatively small SSD holding the OS, which the intent that large data files would go to conventional hard drives of higher capacities.

 

[frosty3907]

Lol and that's ANOTHER THING that annoys me, that the software automatically downloads all the games.
I'm on a 10gb/month limit here!

 

[Dinahnana]

Just try to play Avalon II or Girls with Guns on a 10 year old laptop, I dare you.

My laptop is almost 3 years old and goes bonkers when I play these games. Fans go mad and it heats up. I keep expecting it to explode Not fun at all.

 

[refre]

Does anyone know which process controls the MG graphics?
I have a Nvidia Geforce 750M graphics card on my laptop, which it needs to be activated manually.
I have tried adding casinogame.exe in the Nvidia Control Panel, but still it uses Intel graphics...


Thanks!

 

[frosty3907]

Does anyone know which process controls the MG graphics?
I have a Nvidia Geforce 750M graphics card on my laptop, which it needs to be activated manually.
I have tried adding casinogame.exe in the Nvidia Control Panel, but still it uses Intel graphics...


Thanks!

It's not a case of just linking the correct process. The games need to be designed or converted to utilize the GPU, which they currently do not.

Your GPU does nothing.

 

[refre]

It's not a case of just linking the correct process. The games need to be designed or converted to utilize the GPU, which they currently do not.

Your GPU does nothing.

Thanks.

That's a real shame.
My laptop has a i5-4200 processor and 8 GB memory, and the new games are still unplayable.

 

[Tirilej]

Thanks.

That's a real shame.
My laptop has a i5-4200 processor and 8 GB memory, and the new games are still unplayable.

That was sad to hear.
I've only 2GB memory in this and planned to put in more this weekend, just to be able to play those games.

Then it won't help much I suppose

 

[maphesto]

I have a Nvidia Geforce 750M graphics card on my laptop, which it needs to be activated manually.
I have tried adding casinogame.exe in the Nvidia Control Panel, but still it uses Intel graphics...

Thanks.

My laptop has a i5-4200 processor and 8 GB memory, and the new games are still unplayable.

Something is messed up with that configuration, here's some advice:

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I definatelty would update NVidia drivers first, which you probably have done already. If not, try that!

@Tirilej:

Jurassic Park runs well on my PC with 3 GB RAM and a CPU which do not reach their requirements. The graphics card do however meet their requirements. I can play both download and flash versions.

 

[Tirilej]

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I definatelty would update NVidia drivers first, which you probably have done already. If not, try that!

@Tirilej:

Jurassic Park runs well on my PC with 3 GB RAM and a CPU which do not reach their requirements. The graphics card do however meet their requirements. I can play both download and flash versions.

That game is ok if I have it on Basic.
What I would like to play is Girls with Guns and Avalon 2.

 

[K2C]

Why don't they optimize these games to use the GPU instead of constantly hammering the CPU?

My machines can play the latest games without breaking a sweat but the instant I load a simple 2d slot it's 100% CPU usage and fans into overdrive, with crappy frame rates to boot.

With the $$$ they're bringing in it would be trivial to add a directx or opengl renderer.

So why don't they?

Stick wih the RTG casinos. They don't require much CPU at all.
(yes, I am kidding)

 

[mcgameboy]

Just try to play Avalon II or Girls with Guns on a 10 year old laptop, I dare you.

Mine is 4 years old. And yes....they are slow. Especially if you are playing them at All Slots. When playing at All Slots, Avalon 2 is slow pretty much from Spin 1. GWG goes slow after about 5 spins. It's like watching The Finer Reels Of Life slowing down on one of Chopley's vids after it did about 100 spins on his considerably better and more powerful PC.

On all my other MG download casinos, they are merely "less terrible/less bad". Avalon 2 holds up to "borderline acceptable" standard, while GWG goes to pot after about 25 spins.

Mind you, I run worse than a bad case of diorrhoea on GWG, so not being able to play it is no great loss to me. Every cloud

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Thanks.

That's a real shame.
My laptop has a i5-4200 processor and 8 GB memory, and the new games are still unplayable.

The problem with most budget laptops and pcs is that the hard drive is usually of very low quality and very slow, more than likley running at 5400rpm. Todays games,applications and casinos utilise all aspects of a machine. The ram, the HD, the gpu and the cpu. You could have a machine with a top end graphics card, top end ram and top end cpu but this matters not if your hard drive is too slow to keep up with them and the hard drive is one thing most people dont even consider when looking at the specs of any machine be it a laptop or desktop.

Case in point would be your machine running a i5-4200 and 8gb memory. Over kill for casino games. I would wager pound to a penny that although you have an i5 and a good amount of ram, it is likley that your hard drive is the component letting it all down. Unless you buy a gaming laptop, the hard drives are usually always poor.

 

[Nifty29]

Hmmm

I have an intel i3 2.7GHZ processor with 4GB RAM.

I also have a 2GB NVidia GPU.

I have absolutely no issues with any MG games either download or flash (except flash takes ages to load but I think that's a slowfire issue).

Bizarre, considering some of you guys have better rigs than me.

 

[syntynyt]

They could also add some Australian mirrors for there downloads they're crazy slow (30 minute download).

30 minutes? time to move to iiNet dont you think?




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[frosty3907]

Thanks for the ad!
But the problem is not my ISP, as I can download other things fine (up to about 1200KB/s) so unless these games are 1.8GB then the issue is not bandwidth. I'll bet the issue is it's downloading from a remote mirror in Malta or the US or something.

Also those speeds you're advertising are if you live in a city but as for the rest of Australia, we're still on copper.

 

[frosty3907]

The problem with most budget laptops and pcs is that the hard drive is usually of very low quality and very slow, more than likley running at 5400rpm. Todays games,applications and casinos utilise all aspects of a machine. The ram, the HD, the gpu and the cpu. You could have a machine with a top end graphics card, top end ram and top end cpu but this matters not if your hard drive is too slow to keep up with them and the hard drive is one thing most people dont even consider when looking at the specs of any machine be it a laptop or desktop.

Case in point would be your machine running a i5-4200 and 8gb memory. Over kill for casino games. I would wager pound to a penny that although you have an i5 and a good amount of ram, it is likley that your hard drive is the component letting it all down. Unless you buy a gaming laptop, the hard drives are usually always poor.

This is incorrect.
My unit does have an ssd and the only thing it speeds up is the time it takes to load the game into ram which is probably less than one second.