Tin Foil Hat warning!

[Jasminebed]

I always think if you got up at all it's pretty amazing.

More spins lose than win.

I've encountered across many platforms stuck reels, slow spinning reels, and only one that comes to mind, sped up reels, and that only for one game.

Most times I just think "I'm done". But honestly, aren't we "done" most times when things work well. I've had games that played like that and turned out winning on occasion. Just like all the normal spins do.

A lot comes down to trust. If you think a casino is booting you to switch your game play over to a server with a lower RTP, then you should walk away and never look back. I'm not saying it can't happen.

But a smart casino wouldn't do that, the house edge and a fair game will keep you a returning and ultimately profitable customer.

I know since you are in the US you are not talking about the problems that the Quickfire casinos have with server interuptions, so MGS and Netent are not being discussed.

Oh, and with your colouring, I think a green hat would suit you better than blue.

 

[SubzeroWins]

Free spins with no/small wagering Vs. Free spins with huge wagering

my best wins are always on the latter one so the theory would be that the slots know when to pay out
this is on Netent btw.

 

[mrmark21]

When you start thinking like that it's definitely time to stop playing. I've stopped playing MG and Netent because I couldn't win period. I'm not talking getting a few dollars ahead I'm talking about actually winning. Most of my accounts had a RTP of under 50-60%.

I understand there is a massive house edge on slots. Your not going to win every time. Your not going to win every second, third, fourth, or fifth time in fact you won't win most of the time. However when you can go seven months without winning a decent amount there's obviously something more at work apart from a RNG.

I'm going to go off my own experiences not what someone else has told me. I'll go off what I can see right in front of me. So far I've seen nothing that provides clear evidence that the games aren't compensated or influenced in some manner. That doesn't mean they are rigged - Compensated slots can still be random slots.

I'm not the developer the way I see it is if the casino or software developer wants me to deposit MY MONEY then they should be more open with me about how their slots work. The veil of secrecy isn't going to work with me. B&Ms are tightly regulated I've doubted the level of regulation pertaining online casinos ever since the Speilo incident. I don't think there are any switches or any other magical mumbo jumbo at work. I've just seen consistently poor returns. I think the slots are generally tight. I think it's great that other people seem to win but that's just not me.

The above is my own opinion and I've already got my tin foil hat But yes if you are having these thoughts then it would seem your not enjoying your results and that can't be very satisfying actually it can actually be quite the opposite - Extremely frustrating. You should take a break

 

[SinWin]

Ahhh yes I know exactly what your talking about. Everything is bouncing along smooth as silk then all of a sudden everything becomes laggy or you get kicked off the slot entirely. So you keep playing and boom dead spin after dead spin. I knew it wasnt just me this happend too, is spooky how you described it to a tee.
I'm guessing when your hitting a balance of around 700+ your tied in with a bonus right? If not then thats slightly crazy to me.
Your not alone in this I can assure you.

Having said that where's my debit card I fancy a flutter!!

 

[gagamel]

Some years ago I had my longest unlucky run. I played a lot of BJ in a landbased casino in Switzerland. From 2000 to 2008 I won some money and I lost some money. No big wins or loses.
In 2009 I had a fantastic run over 3 month and made some good money.
In 2010 I lost a small amount.
In 2011/12 I had a losing streak for 18 month. No chance to win anything with BJ or slots.
This was the reason I started to play online (aslo was very unlucky in the beginning, but since November I made some big withderawals that covered my loses).

Long story short:
It all depends on your luck. I tried everything to end my bad luck (Voodoo, Magic LOL) but nothing worked. And of course I had my own theories why I`m losing.
The more I lost the more insane my conspiracy theories were. But it`s obvious that sometimes you have a long bad run. It`s part of the game.

If I have a bad run now I stop playing for money for some weeks and if I want to play I play in fun mode. Normally my bad luck follows .
And when the things work better for me I deposit again.

 

[BMWSTACK]

As long is it is the assumed casino, I see you have continued to play and got a 200x bet. I hope it was a large bet, but knowing the volatile game it may not be.

 

[eizei]

There's not much of a point to make any observations and then crafting theories how slots aren't purely random based on your personal experiences. There's even several reasons for this. Our brains are prone to more easily remember the times such theories were true and ignore the times they were not. Not to even mention that you'd have to have insanely large sample sizes to make comments with any credibility that I doubt the people claiming these theories have.

 

[mrmark21]

There's not much of a point to make any observations and then crafting theories how slots aren't purely random based on your personal experiences. There's even several reasons for this. Our brains are prone to more easily remember the times such theories were true and ignore the times they were not. Not to even mention that you'd have to have insanely large sample sizes to make comments with any credibility that I doubt the people claiming these theories have.

I understand however stats don't lie 50-60% RTP is pathetic and when it's across all casinos for seven months then it's beyond ridiculous. I don't need to depend on my own brain for the patterns as I can obtain the patterns (RTP) rather easily from the casinos. I'm not only basing my opinion solely off what I've seen with my own two eyes, I'm basing it on what I haven't seen regarding clear proof (not hearsay) that the games are 100% random. The way I see it is if they were the software developer would put forward irrefutable proof that would put ALL players minds at ease (that would be in the operators best interests) but they haven't and really I must admit I do wonder what the reason could possibly be. Secrecy? Yes I'm not buying that especially not with my own money. I'm not calling the games rigged - Compensated slots can still be random slots. I don't think there are any switches or levers being pulled.

The other thing I'm basing my opinion on is lack of regulation the Speilo incident comes to mind. The above is MY opinion and I'm certainly open to responses or listening to other peoples POV even if they have thrown all logic to the wind. I don't have any credibility, I'm just a mere gambler voicing my opinion (just like you). I'm not the software developer. I'm fine I don't play anymore but I'd hate to continue playing only to wake up tomorrow and find out that irrefutable proof has been posted and it's not in the software developers favor. That's fine I haven't been spending MY money (other players have). Lest we forget it wasn't a casino who came forward about the Speilo incident it was another member on this forum. Betfred didn't have to reimburse any funds as far as I can recall so the operators had nothing to lose. I don't mind wearing a tin foil hat, we are on the internet, I'd just like mine with an antenna So yes I think the best thing players can do is base their own opinion off their own experience

 

[nikantw]

Not fun when you drop from 700 to 0. But imagine dropping from 7000 to 0! And imagine if the 7000 was deposit money! Besides, you had some fun going up to 700, didn't you?

What I want to say is simple. Casinos are not charity. One can only win what many others have lost.

And if you are right, and you have spotted some signs, some indicators, that your luck (or whatever) is going to change, then you must be super happy!! Because now you can predict it and stop playing!!

 

[blonde]

Well choc its happened to me twice now and makes me wonder..hand over my hat if you will. Something is happening and not sure what. I am frustrated to say the least with the disconnects or whatever they are. So the question is, are we imagining this or did it happen? My theory YES its happening!!!!!

 

[cpdnd31]

Just to point out to a few who have commented on this thread, I am not complaining about losing. I know when to take a break. I was just sitting there dead spin and with connection problems and getting frustrated as all hell and said to myself why does it act this way when I'm losing. Now me being me I came here to post about it and make fun of it until I realized I am not the only person that has seen and or felt this behavior. So if you feel the need to where a TIN FOIL HAT DO IT> BE Proud Be loud!

Honestly i didn't realize other people had the same issues and now my tin foil hat is begging to come out of the closet and ask hmmmmmmm..

 

[blonde]

I wonder if the tin foil hats come with any shade of pink on it? LOL

 

[jshort]

JUST MY TWO CENTS...............If I had your experience at a new casino, a bad spell like this would likely send me running. However I could see myself sticking around a tad longer if the promos were good and the casino used MG software, however with that said I would switch my gameplay to either roullette or blackjack where I'm more capable of analyzing the results for statistical anomilies.......And fyi they are out there! Online gambling is probably more dirty than professional cycling was back in the 1990's (for both of these the formula "opportunity + financial gain = motivation to be evil"!)

 

[randomiam]

ive found if you go to kitchen supply places

you can get way bigger rools of tin foil there i tend to buy lots and ive made many tin foil hats suits shoes as ive found out the more you weaar the more sane you are about the two scatters meaning 3 are on the way and yeh if a rtp drops below 30% after 10 different deposit sessions change you games and check the casinos reputation as 10 sessions with trp onder 30 by the law of odds it dont seem right.. also dont try and make a tin foil tongue it will only hurt your fillings...