Tin foil hat time. Is this stuff actually legit?

[Seventh777]

It`s all down to your betting strategy hun, take a look at what has happened the past 18 months - 2 years, a perma world recession and more importantly a prohibition enforced on the USA regarding online gambling, this has had a vast knock-on affect to the casinos revenues, let`s take Rival for eg, when I 1st started playing there were loads of tried and trusted Rival casinos, now you will do well to find one.

It`s not just Rival that have felt the nip, this goes right across the board including MGS, so many casinos have gone under and been bought out by casino rewards and 32Red, hell even some Playtech casinos have started finding ways not to pay legit winnings.

Casinos do not cater for the high-rollers anymore, look at the screenshot section, how many £15 a spin x5 wild storm reels hits do you see or x5 wilds and sapphires for a £22.50 BDBA spin?, look at some of the new slot jackpot hits IR is around £72k for a £6 spin, how many casinos in today`s environment could handle hits like that?.

My personal opinion regarding features is they have dramatically changed in average payouts, upon release I played TSII with a vengeance I would estimate that 1-5 features would yield a x100 return and 1-15 would give a x150+, although I have hit a monster x250+ for a £3 stake it took me around 18 months, but for this, I paid the price of hitting an average of x20 bet with a x50 every time the wooden rocking horse dropped a doogie.

None of us know how the RTP for slots work, is it linked to all those playing it at the same time or based on a solo player?, let`s say for argument`s sake it is linked to all playing it, you have 5 people playing BDBA, 4 are playing at .18p a spin, the other is high-rolling for £22.50p a pop, all the low rollers hit a £150 soft jackpot, the low rollers started with a £50 balance each and all having and end balance of £175 the high roller had £800 and ended up with £250, an overall RTP of 95%.

4 people are now very very happy, and one is pissed, no slot in it`s right mind is going to keep paying out £150 for a .18p bet, something must be putting money in the kitty, and if it`s not the individual player than it must be someone else.

This is ofc my personal opinion and may differ from other`s pov`s.

 

[Osloking]

well i can honestly say that i have played more than ++200.000 spins, yes over 200K on break da bank again and never hit 5X sapphire on it

To Jennifer, pelase try to lower your bets at the avrage player would bet (around 1-5$), in that way you would see more wins. and one last thing, playtech casinos are usally very high variance so be careful, and if i ware you, i would choose bet365 or genting for playtech casino.

 

[Seventh777]

well i can honestly say that i have played more than ++200.000 spins, yes over 200K on break da bank again and never hit 5X sapphire on it

I`ve hit wilds saphs 21 times from .09p to .90p, the biggest return i`ve had from a higher bet was £750 for x4 in free spins at £1.80p a spin, 1 short from a £7500 hit

 

[SAunnyS72]

Ok I am a player not a casino so I am more on your side than the Casinos. I sympathize with you.

However, I find it hard to believe you had 500,000 ,clicks with nothing.... that would be half a million dollars @1$/click .... hmmm ...

I play about 5kUSD/week and I still dont think that is possible for me to lose without hitting a few big ones or stopping after maybe $100000 worth of dry runs. I am a high roller but I am not sure I am willing to lose 1/2 Million dollars on a online casino....

Like I said I bet 5/10/25$ a click.... when I lose... I lose about a few Ks... but then when I hit OH BOY! do I HIT! ... so I am really confused why you are having such a massive dry spell.... talk to your Casino Manager if you are a VIP and they might help you in your gameplay and even give you some Hot Games and tips.

EDIT: BTW... just as a tip on your point... it's all about the RNGs... Last week I got hooked on Isis Mega Moolah for some reason... betting 5/10% a click... got 5k a few times and then... went for almost 10k without a single feature ... then got a feature at 5$ and it gave me 75 spins and yet at 75 spins nothing!... then I got five golden things with Isis and Bang 5k again.... so it's all RNG... it doesn't mean that if you had 500k dry run you will hit 500k back or if someone hits 500k he cant hit it again... I guess the thing we love "Gambling" is the cause of our frustration as well... if you had regular pays you would be bored lol

Thanks
Sunny

 

[takethemoney]

500,000 spins on slots? Wow that's a lot!
I can't believe you've never hit "a thing" - it just doesn't make sense.
I play only a few hours a week, but still average a 100 x bet win at least twice per month.

What slots are you playing? Are they all progressives or something? Please can you name them?

KK

Not really. I have logs coming from a casino that have several hundred thousand individual columns, probably a few million spins, but yet I haven't won shit there. It's gonna take time to send the logs.

 

[Jennifer]

500k of spins I seriously never hit anything at all. If you want to call $300 something out of all those spins..well I guess it is (and funny the $300 score was actually on scratch ticket) so really the highest score on the slots was around $262. I hit my fair share of $1-10 scores and some $50 scores. So thats why Im no where near down $500,000. Plus I would be a retard and gamble on black jack and roulette. Which I did okay at. It helped me keep a bankroll for my slots gambling.

My point is, I never hit anything on all those bets I made. I checked my history every time I would put it on autoplay for 500 spins at a time. Nothing significant. Every time I came back to check I would be down at the end of that $500 every single time. Sometimes $100 sometimes $300.

I have no reason to make any of this up. Its not like im telling people not to play at MG. Im just talking about my experience and how I decided to close my account because I feel they never pay out. Its called gambling. I took a risk and lost a lot of money. Oh well its my fault, I get it but I can still share my experience.

And Im glad that MG took action when I requested a network wide ban. I have numerous emails from every casino on MG confirming I am now IP banned as requested. So good on them I guess.

 

[SAunnyS72]

I have no reason to make any of this up. Its not like im telling people not to play at MG. Im just talking about my experience and how I decided to close my account because I feel they never pay out. Its called gambling. I took a risk and lost a lot of money. Oh well its my fault, I get it but I can still share my experience.

Good point ! This is a forum an you have every right to say whatever your experience is good or bad.

 

[LaHutti]

500k of spins I seriously never hit anything at all. If you want to call $300 something out of all those spins..well I guess it is (and funny the $300 score was actually on scratch ticket) so really the highest score on the slots was around $262. I hit my fair share of $1-10 scores and some $50 scores. So thats why Im no where near down $500,000. Plus I would be a retard and gamble on black jack and roulette. Which I did okay at. It helped me keep a bankroll for my slots gambling.

My point is, I never hit anything on all those bets I made. I checked my history every time I would put it on autoplay for 500 spins at a time. Nothing significant. Every time I came back to check I would be down at the end of that $500 every single time. Sometimes $100 sometimes $300.

I have no reason to make any of this up. Its not like im telling people not to play at MG. Im just talking about my experience and how I decided to close my account because I feel they never pay out. Its called gambling. I took a risk and lost a lot of money. Oh well its my fault, I get it but I can still share my experience.

And Im glad that MG took action when I requested a network wide ban. I have numerous emails from every casino on MG confirming I am now IP banned as requested. So good on them I guess.

Surely you have the right to tell people about your experience, but your story is just really hard to swallow.
What people are trying to tell you, is that it's not the casino, but you....or rather the way you play, because there is NO way you can possibly play 500000 spins, putting just a minimum of thought into it, without hitting anything. Personally I'll go ahead and say, you have no friggin clue what you're doing, if you can lose 37K without hitting anything at all. That's just MY opinion, and I have the right to let people know what I think, just as you have.
Now, if you don't like to hear THAT, I suggest you stop posting about it, and blame the software, or the casino, because people here WILL question your playstyle, when you bash the best casino you can find online today, and calling people shills, for telling the truth, is a bit out of line imho.

 

[Jennifer]

ow, if you don't like to hear THAT, I suggest you stop posting about it, and blame the software, or the casino, because people here WILL question your playstyle, when you bash the best casino you can find online today, and calling people shills, for telling the truth, is a bit out of line imho.

Why do you feel the need to quote my post and then add all of this to it? My post wasnt cutting people up. As for people questioning I have seen a few people say they never hit anything on that network.

Anyways enough of that, keep it on topic from now on.

As I said I dont really care who believes me. I would say at least 200k of spins was on auto spins. So if thats something you shouldnt do online than I guess Im doing it wrong. 500k spins is 500k spins how exactly can you play slots wrong? Im seriously asking because I am new to online casinos for the most part.

At each slot machine I spend the minimum an hour at a time. Maximum can be 5 hours when I get sick of not hitting and I figure okay ive been playing 4-5 slot machines for 13 hours straight and im just not hitting anything Ill stay on this one for 5 hours. Still nothing.

Tell me something if I have no reason to lie, why exactly would I request a network wide ban? Certainly not vecause I lost a few hundred dollars? Usually if someone requests that its for a good reason. I played on MG like never before. I did everything I could. I tried betting smaller for hours..medium..higher..even higher.,,back down to low back down to medium. I did everything possible to switch up my play. And I got nothing at all. Finally at my wits end. I contacted live support and told them I was upset and to look at my account history briefly and I asked why I never hit a thing. They responded with the ...thats the excitement of gambling you never know. We see you have been on an immense cold streak but thats what happens with randomness.

Okay fine I dont believe it so I just said close and IP ban me from this network. I went above and beyond. I mean after about 200k spins I was fed up and I said to myself okay this is just some awful run Im on. Take a break, wake up and push through it youre bound to hit something. 300k spins later and $37,000 in losses I just never hit anything.

I see people in the screen shot thread posting $1-5k wins. I never came close to one of those. Again Im not whining Im just sharing my experience.

Ive moved over to omni and havent had any luck there but I also havent really played much. Im betting approx $1 per spin there and Ive had a $167 score(which is good). Playing time there so far is only a few hours at best. lol even after a few hours of not hitting this jackpot ive been chasing (lol silly I know chasing jackpots!) I got frustrated because the money just kept leaking. Mind you no where near as quick as MG but still going down! Maybe it is my playing style, maybe I am clueless. I have recieved a couple of PMs from members here who feel my pain and have given me advice on how to play. So when I find the heart to fire it up again, I will try it. And if Im chasing losses and not enjoying it, maybe gambling is not for me. Gambling should be fun and entertaining. Not about getting pissed off. I have obviously have some decisions to make

 

[Jennifer]

I just wanted to add, I think the reason why I got so angry and upset is because NUMEROUS times I was close to hitting the jackpot. IE: three red 777 paid x400 your bet and numerous times in a long session I would get 2 and the fricken third would land just under the payline! LOL bah!

 

[Tirilej]

I know the feeling, but unfortunately you were not close to win anything. Those near misses, or almost winnings, (or whatever they are called) are build in to the program to make you just believe you're close to win something big.
That's what makes you go back trying

 

[Surasanji]

500k of spins I seriously never hit anything at all. If you want to call $300 something out of all those spins..well I guess it is (and funny the $300 score was actually on scratch ticket) so really the highest score on the slots was around $262. I hit my fair share of $1-10 scores and some $50 scores. So thats why Im no where near down $500,000. Plus I would be a retard and gamble on black jack and roulette. Which I did okay at. It helped me keep a bankroll for my slots gambling.

How would you be down $500,000 if you didn't deposit that amount?

That seems a touch hyperbolic. Not a big deal, I don't know many people who aren't when they'd like to prove an emotional point. (And why wouldn't you be upset about it? That's a lot of money no matter what way you look at it.)

As for the legitimacy of it all?

Like any industry its a mixed bag. There are several highly respected casinos who have proven themselves to 'The Community' of online gamblers. Not all of them are accredited here, even. And some people swear by places that are rogued here at CM.

The fact is, I think, that most here don't believe that over 200-500k worth of spins you didn't once hit a point where you could cash out....

With that? I give you this very classic piece of advice from Kenny Rodgers: Know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.

And, if you do decided to play elsewhere? Best of luck!

 

[KasinoKing]

500k of spins I seriously never hit anything at all. If you want to call $300 something out of all those spins..well I guess it is (and funny the $300 score was actually on scratch ticket) so really the highest score on the slots was around $262. I hit my fair share of $1-10 scores and some $50 scores. So thats why Im no where near down $500,000. Plus I would be a retard and gamble on black jack and roulette. Which I did okay at. It helped me keep a bankroll for my slots gambling.

My point is, I never hit anything on all those bets I made. I checked my history every time I would put it on autoplay for 500 spins at a time. Nothing significant. Every time I came back to check I would be down at the end of that $500 every single time. Sometimes $100 sometimes $300.

It's impossible to judge what your luck was like with that info - because you didn't say how much you were betting.
A top win of $262 off a 40c bet would be awesome, but off a $40 bet it would pretty rubbish.

KK

 

[Jasminebed]

The longer you play, the more chance you have of losing. If you made 500K worth of $1 bets, you could excpect to lose 17.5 K if you got the exact RTP expected for slots that are 96.5% RTP. Some RTG slots may only be 91%, so that would be 25K down. And if you didn't hit a random, part of your bet was going towards that.

While your luck seems bad, it doesn't seem that bad for the amount you have played.

If you are playing 500 spins on autospin, do you have it set to stop when you hit $100? Do you watch every win intently, sometimes they count up pretty quickly depending on your settings. You could win $150 and lose most of it back while you are going to the bathroom and fridge.

I play several days a week, usually get 15,000 to 40,000 spins in a month at 32Red, and I don't think I've ever had a month without a 100x hit. 1000x hits are very very rare, I think I've posted pretty much all of them in that thread, as you can see, there aren't many in 4 years of playing online.

Playtech has a wide variety of slot games, some pay more slow and steady, others are boom or bust. This is the last major platform you have left yourself, so please please make sure you play at a reputable place.

If you like table games or Video pokers, make sure you understand the correct strategy for the game. Wizardofodds is one of the best sites out there IMO for that.

You say you deposit $1000 at a time. Maybe try depositing 100 at a time, then a $200 win feels like winning.

And forget chasing losses. Approach each new session as just that, a new session.

Playing online is something to amuse yourself with, and a chance that you can come out ahead now and again. I live in Ontario, the slots pay awful at all our casinos.

But that kind of money, you can probably arrange with a casino in Vegas to get a comp flight and room a few times a year.