Tin foil hat time. Is this stuff actually legit?

Jennifer

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I play both live and online. How come when I play live I can actually win and when Im online I have never ever booked a win. For example. My last 24 $1000 deposits I have not hit anything at all online. But in a casino Ive actually booked quite a few wins. Its extremely odd to me and I dont get it. I try other casinos all the time but its the same thing. You get down a few hundred and than thats when you finally hit something worth $200 or $300. Its never ever right off the bat its when your chasing losses.

Money is not really a factor here, I have a great job. But Im really starting to think this online stuff is not realistic.

ZOMG rigged ya ya I know but hey cant I just suggest I dont understand it considering the outrageous beats? LOL the table games are the worst. flush over flush I even lost to quads over quads.
 

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I play both live and online. How come when I play live I can actually win and when Im online I have never ever booked a win. For example. My last 24 $1000 deposits I have not hit anything at all online. But in a casino Ive actually booked quite a few wins. Its extremely odd to me and I dont get it. I try other casinos all the time but its the same thing. You get down a few hundred and than thats when you finally hit something worth $200 or $300. Its never ever right off the bat its when your chasing losses.

Money is not really a factor here, I have a great job. But Im really starting to think this online stuff is not realistic.

ZOMG rigged ya ya I know but hey cant I just suggest I dont understand it considering the outrageous beats? LOL the table games are the worst. flush over flush I even lost to quads over quads.

Let me just say, that if you have ANY doubts that it's legit, your best choice is probably to stop putting $1000 after $1000 of deposits into it.
 

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Make sure you are in fashion with that hat please....I think the accredited ones have tightened up some..actually quite a bit..but thats just my thoughts for the last few years and I was awarded the most beautiful hat!!! (Proudly wears it to all these functions at the CM!) :thumbsup:

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it is just the other way for us,online we win regularly while in live casinos we always lose bigtime

Sorry to hear that mate ... But i agree with marsan ...Play where you win... I play both as well but never had more than 5k Irl casinos .... But online I win 5k+ almost every week ( although I play it through) ... But I have won upto 50k online.
 

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I play both live and online. How come when I play live I can actually win and when Im online I have never ever booked a win. For example. My last 24 $1000 deposits I have not hit anything at all online. But in a casino Ive actually booked quite a few wins. Its extremely odd to me and I dont get it. I try other casinos all the time but its the same thing. You get down a few hundred and than thats when you finally hit something worth $200 or $300. Its never ever right off the bat its when your chasing losses.

Money is not really a factor here, I have a great job. But Im really starting to think this online stuff is not realistic.

ZOMG rigged ya ya I know but hey cant I just suggest I dont understand it considering the outrageous beats? LOL the table games are the worst. flush over flush I even lost to quads over quads.

Quads over quads? What table games are you referring to or is this poker ie Texas Hold 'em?
 

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I play both live and online. How come when I play live I can actually win and when Im online I have never ever booked a win.

Confirmation bias ...

And don't worry, you'll start losing live soon enough.
 

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I play both live and online. How come when I play live I can actually win and when Im online I have never ever booked a win. For example. My last 24 $1000 deposits I have not hit anything at all online. But in a casino Ive actually booked quite a few wins. Its extremely odd to me and I dont get it. I try other casinos all the time but its the same thing. You get down a few hundred and than thats when you finally hit something worth $200 or $300. Its never ever right off the bat its when your chasing losses.

Money is not really a factor here, I have a great job. But Im really starting to think this online stuff is not realistic.

ZOMG rigged ya ya I know but hey cant I just suggest I dont understand it considering the outrageous beats? LOL the table games are the worst. flush over flush I even lost to quads over quads.

There are a lot of crooks out there. However, there are just as many 'non accredited' casinos which are perfectly okay to play at, and many people cash out with. They may, however, have slow payments or somewhat silly terms and conditions. Or constant "processor" issues.

Its all luck- if all you play is slots, and you do play at an accredited casino then you are probably getting a pretty fair RTP. Probably pretty close to what you might find in Vegas. But, I'm just guessing. It feels the same to me. When I play slots anyways- I get drinking in B&M blackjack games and they get emotional. >_> :p
 

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From my point of view,if a player keeps coming back to play, after so many times he lost,it is a magic sign from GOD that he/she is quiet normal and even gets excited from the way he plays and loses...
 

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My perception is - When it is not your day at a particular casino you will go from slot to slot, game to game with no joy, however, when it is your day you can go from slot to slot game to game and get some damn good hits on all of them. At a land based you can chop and change the slot/game and hopefully get a decent win, but, how many times will you get consecutive big hits playing the same or different slots?, this is the main difference between the two imho.

When the software decides it`s your lucky day then boom it`s a stairway to gambling heaven, how many times has anyone played at a land based with a starter balance of £10 - £50 and turned it into £2k-£5k?.
 

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My perception is - When it is not your day at a particular casino you will go from slot to slot, game to game with no joy, however, when it is your day you can go from slot to slot game to game and get some damn good hits on all of them. At a land based you can chop and change the slot/game and hopefully get a decent win, but, how many times will you get consecutive big hits playing the same or different slots?, this is the main difference between the two imho.

When the software decides it`s your lucky day then boom it`s a stairway to gambling heaven, how many times has anyone played at a land based with a starter balance of £10 - £50 and turned it into £2k-£5k?.

Good DESCRIBE,777.I agree :thumbsup:
 

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Good DESCRIBE,777.I agree :thumbsup:

Why thank you :), and here is my favourite case of this awesome phenomena, look at the time between these two hits (two minutes), I remember to this day me cursing the 1st RF for not hitting the x8 lol, it was like the game said "Sorry about that, here we go"..........



deucesRF.jpg


deucesRF2nd.jpg

Like I stated in previous post, when it`s your day, it`s your day ;).
 

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In my experience, I have to agree with the OP.

I win most of the time at my local land casino. Always feel like it is fair and regulated. Have even talked to the regulators a couple of times while playing. They came in to ask players if they felt they were getting a fair game and if they were winning.
Strangely enough while they were there jackpots were going off left and right ;)

I have NEVER won anything to talk about online, but I continue to play only in hopes to one day be able to share the same feelings as most of you do about online gaming.
But as of today, it continues to SUCK for me.
 

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It's totally legit with accredited casinos, maybe you should try different games other than poker, you might just be lucky :thumbsup:
personally I am the same, I can win nearly every time I go to land casinos, online I'm just not that lucky, money is an issue for me, so when I play online, I cannot go to land casinos :(.

My advice is play where you get the most enjoyment ;)
 

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My perception is - When it is not your day at a particular casino you will go from slot to slot, game to game with no joy, however, when it is your day you can go from slot to slot game to game and get some damn good hits on all of them. At a land based you can chop and change the slot/game and hopefully get a decent win, but, how many times will you get consecutive big hits playing the same or different slots?, this is the main difference between the two imho.

When the software decides it`s your lucky day then boom it`s a stairway to gambling heaven, how many times has anyone played at a land based with a starter balance of £10 - £50 and turned it into £2k-£5k?.

You have just said what I have been thinking all along, the jackpot from slots at my local casinos is £500 from £2 bets (which I have hit several times) jackpot from linked poker machines is £1000 (this is the highest that it goes, which I have hit 3 times) though it is extremely hard to get. Now the same bet online from slots (£2) would win a damn lot more than land slots, the poker machines have a bet limit of £1 per hand dealt at my local casino, online it's £25, my bro hit the royal flush online 2 years ago £10 bet =£8000 (jammy so n so) by accident he had it in that bet he was playing so fast, so I blame him for my online gaming, it was after this that I started to play online, but alas I have spent more online than at land casino.
 

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Great responses from everyone in this thread. Almost every response was nice to read.

So online I figure I have made a total of 750,000 individual bets. About 500,000 of that on slots and about 250,000 on table games. Some o fthese sessions are 12 hours straight sometimes a couple days in a row of sessions like that.

Out of all that play and thousands and thousands of pulls on the same game, I have never hit a thing. To me, thats a hell of alot of playing to not win a thing especially when they arent under $1.50 per play.

I have decided to close some of accounts and entire networks. I wrote them last night and basically said "look at my playing history on your site and look at my hits or winnings, this is why Im closing my account". I got a couple responses saying "After looking at your play history I can see without a doubt you have been extremely unlucky. However if you deposit right now, we will give you a 100% bonus match and I think your luck will change". lol Ive taken up these offers in the past and all I do is blow the money right into their pockets. Well not anymore.

Why should I put so much time and effort into it when it never pays me back even once and awhile? I used to play because I enjoyed it but now it just seems to frustrate me. I will set the slot on autoplay and let it play 500 bets at a time 5 or 6 times on the same slot. I come back to look and not much of anything.

If it isnt fun or giving me any kind of a thrill I see no sense in it. I only live 20 minutes from a casino so from now on I will be taking my business there. However, if I feel the need to play online I will mess around with one of the no deposit bonuses that never ever work out well. lol

Maybe online Im unlucky and this is just one heck of phenomenon or maybe they think Im a sucker and will keep trying and trying and trying. Maybe they are upset Im closing my accounts, maybe they are not. But for me, Im happy because it's become a dark cloud over my head.
 

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Great responses from everyone in this thread. Almost every response was nice to read.

So online I figure I have made a total of 750,000 individual bets. About 500,000 of that on slots and about 250,000 on table games. Some o fthese sessions are 12 hours straight sometimes a couple days in a row of sessions like that.

Out of all that play and thousands and thousands of pulls on the same game, I have never hit a thing. To me, thats a hell of alot of playing to not win a thing especially when they arent under $1.50 per play.

I have decided to close some of accounts and entire networks. I wrote them last night and basically said "look at my playing history on your site and look at my hits or winnings, this is why Im closing my account". I got a couple responses saying "After looking at your play history I can see without a doubt you have been extremely unlucky. However if you deposit right now, we will give you a 100% bonus match and I think your luck will change". lol Ive taken up these offers in the past and all I do is blow the money right into their pockets. Well not anymore.

Why should I put so much time and effort into it when it never pays me back even once and awhile? I used to play because I enjoyed it but now it just seems to frustrate me. I will set the slot on autoplay and let it play 500 bets at a time 5 or 6 times on the same slot. I come back to look and not much of anything.

If it isnt fun or giving me any kind of a thrill I see no sense in it. I only live 20 minutes from a casino so from now on I will be taking my business there. However, if I feel the need to play online I will mess around with one of the no deposit bonuses that never ever work out well. lol

Maybe online Im unlucky and this is just one heck of phenomenon or maybe they think Im a sucker and will keep trying and trying and trying. Maybe they are upset Im closing my accounts, maybe they are not. But for me, Im happy because it's become a dark cloud over my head.

If you are playing solely slots long sessions are nothing as long as you do not accidentally increase your bets but for table games judgment is important. Many years ago I used to endure sleepless nights at b &m casinos and in one marathon session over 48 hours playing mainly table games like Baccarat and Roulette I lost the equivalent of USD $20000. I didnt even know what I was betting on. Try to keep your playing sessions short and sweet. Marathon sessions will only result in one outcome' 'you lose your shirt'.
 

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Great responses from everyone in this thread. Almost every response was nice to read.

So online I figure I have made a total of 750,000 individual bets. About 500,000 of that on slots and about 250,000 on table games. Some of these sessions are 12 hours straight sometimes a couple days in a row of sessions like that.

Out of all that play and thousands and thousands of pulls on the same game, I have never hit a thing. To me, thats a hell of alot of playing to not win a thing especially when they arent under $1.50 per play.
500,000 spins on slots? Wow that's a lot!
I can't believe you've never hit "a thing" - it just doesn't make sense. :what:
I play only a few hours a week, but still average a 100 x bet win at least twice per month.

What slots are you playing? Are they all progressives or something? Please can you name them?

KK
 

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500,000 spins on slots? Wow that's a lot!
I can't believe you've never hit "a thing" - it just doesn't make sense. :what:
I play only a few hours a week, but still average a 100 x bet win at least twice per month.

What slots are you playing? Are they all progressives or something? Please can you name them?

KK

Not really KK, especially if your in the USA. Someone wrote somewhere that the casinos have really tightened up, and they sure have. When I first started gaming on line and it was that long ago, just about 2 years, it never took hundreds of spins to get a feature that pays 2x your bet. Let me show you what I mean....

On this day, I played at an accredited casino, it took 153 spins on Caesars Empire to get a feature to win 11.20 on a 2 dollar bet. On that same day it took 107 spins on Mermaid Queen to get a feature to win 8.73 cents on a 1.80 bet.

On another day, the same accredited group it took 188 spins on Mystic Dragon to get a feature to win 3 dollars on a 1.25 bet. On that same day it took 146 spins on T-rex to get a feature to win 1.50 on a 1.25 bet.

On another day same accredited group it took 143 spins on Happy Golden Ox to win 8 dollars on a 1 dollar bet and this slot has 2 different features. That same day I had 149 spins on Return of the Rudolph and never got a feature before I busted out. I could go on for a long time with this because I do have my playlogs.

I don't know as if anyone can blame the casino, because I think it is the way the games are programmed. I can tell you this, it was a very rare occasion to get even the lowest paying symbol on a complete pay line. When I said that RTG has the "one off syndrome" I was not kidding. It is running rampid with this platform. I don't care what game you play, it seems like 98 percent of the time you are always 1 off from getting a full pay line, and that last symbol is almost always in view, either 1 up or 1 down.

When it became so obvious that this is what was happening time and time again I stopped playing. I had a better chance of hitting the lottery then I did to get something from these online places. If you notice, look how many screenshots are in the show me the money threads from Microgame compared to RTG. MG's shots are plenty and RTG are not. Not like it used to be. So I can see the OP's point on this one.

It will be interesting to see what platforms are still around when and if gaming on line becomes legal in the USA. But when and if it does, I am sure you will see a decline in RTG casinos, because I know many people will be heading straight for Microgame.

All the best,
LH
 

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Not really KK, especially if your in the USA. Someone wrote somewhere that the casinos have really tightened up, and they sure have. When I first started gaming on line and it was that long ago, just about 2 years, it never took hundreds of spins to get a feature that pays 2x your bet. Let me show you what I mean....

On this day, I played at an accredited casino, it took 153 spins on Caesars Empire to get a feature to win 11.20 on a 2 dollar bet. On that same day it took 107 spins on Mermaid Queen to get a feature to win 8.73 cents on a 1.80 bet.

On another day, the same accredited group it took 188 spins on Mystic Dragon to get a feature to win 3 dollars on a 1.25 bet. On that same day it took 146 spins on T-rex to get a feature to win 1.50 on a 1.25 bet.

On another day same accredited group it took 143 spins on Happy Golden Ox to win 8 dollars on a 1 dollar bet and this slot has 2 different features. That same day I had 149 spins on Return of the Rudolph and never got a feature before I busted out. I could go on for a long time with this because I do have my playlogs.

I don't know as if anyone can blame the casino, because I think it is the way the games are programmed. I can tell you this, it was a very rare occasion to get even the lowest paying symbol on a complete pay line. When I said that RTG has the "one off syndrome" I was not kidding. It is running rampid with this platform. I don't care what game you play, it seems like 98 percent of the time you are always 1 off from getting a full pay line, and that last symbol is almost always in view, either 1 up or 1 down.

When it became so obvious that this is what was happening time and time again I stopped playing. I had a better chance of hitting the lottery then I did to get something from these online places. If you notice, look how many screenshots are in the show me the money threads from Microgame compared to RTG. MG's shots are plenty and RTG are not. Not like it used to be. So I can see the OP's point on this one.

It will be interesting to see what platforms are still around when and if gaming on line becomes legal in the USA. But when and if it does, I am sure you will see a decline in RTG casinos, because I know many people will be heading straight for Microgame.

All the best,
LH
I agree with this entire post. However MG is well known for hitting but after you have lost a bunch you are constantly playing catch up.

On these 3 casino\s RTG MG and 3dice are the absolute worst for paying out. How can a person have 500,000 pulls an dnot win anything. Its absurd and I personally and spitefully hope they go out of business for being so cheap and greedy.

While MG slots are fun to look at, after awhile they need to start paying back a little. Regardless, I have been self banned for all three of those networks. I wrote them all emails to blacklist me from their casino because I think their rng is designed in a way you can never win. So far one casino has confirmed I can no longer dl a casino from my IP address. And dont get me wrong im not crying over it, Im just simply not an idiot an dknow when Im being had. Money has very little meaning same with the losses I suffered. I just wont support a company that doesnt give back once and awhile. I have now moved over to omni and will see if its any better. If not, I will request an internet casino ban (lol) and get myself blacklisted from all casino's and stick to live.

Hopefully these other 2 casino's get back to me today and confirm I have been IP banned from their network. I had one support rep try to offer me some free chips. I denied them and saved myself the hassle. The other one didnt want me to leave but no amount of begging would keep me there. If they cared about my business, they would have designed their software to allow people to hit a score once and a blue moon.

I just to wanted add about the bonus feature spins. on RTG they have a slot that has 150 guranteed spin feature. Which means after 150 spins of not hitting the feature they give it to you automatically. I played that for awhile the other day and almost every time, the meter ran out. Rarely did I hit the spin feature in between those times. Ridiculous.

I dont expect to win all the time..or even half. Once and awhile would be fine.
 

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ive been playing LOTR, Thunder something, break da bank, basically every slot they have. I really played the hell out of LOTR and pure platinum. I did $700 worth of spins on their $18 multi reel slot (which wasnt a heck of a sample size because its alot for one bet so it went somewhat quickly)the alaskan fish, fruit reels etc etc.

Yes I posted a win or two out of all the gambling I did so I think that It only proves I rarely if ever hit anything. The biggest win I had was $300 and that was once. I hit a $262 or something around there and a $100. Thats pretty much it.
 

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Not really KK, especially if your in the USA. Someone wrote somewhere that the casinos have really tightened up, and they sure have. When I first started gaming on line and it was that long ago, just about 2 years, it never took hundreds of spins to get a feature that pays 2x your bet. Let me show you what I mean....

On this day, I played at an accredited casino, it took 153 spins on Caesars Empire to get a feature to win 11.20 on a 2 dollar bet. On that same day it took 107 spins on Mermaid Queen to get a feature to win 8.73 cents on a 1.80 bet.

On another day, the same accredited group it took 188 spins on Mystic Dragon to get a feature to win 3 dollars on a 1.25 bet. On that same day it took 146 spins on T-rex to get a feature to win 1.50 on a 1.25 bet.

On another day same accredited group it took 143 spins on Happy Golden Ox to win 8 dollars on a 1 dollar bet and this slot has 2 different features. That same day I had 149 spins on Return of the Rudolph and never got a feature before I busted out. I could go on for a long time with this because I do have my playlogs.

I don't know as if anyone can blame the casino, because I think it is the way the games are programmed. I can tell you this, it was a very rare occasion to get even the lowest paying symbol on a complete pay line. When I said that RTG has the "one off syndrome" I was not kidding. It is running rampid with this platform. I don't care what game you play, it seems like 98 percent of the time you are always 1 off from getting a full pay line, and that last symbol is almost always in view, either 1 up or 1 down.

When it became so obvious that this is what was happening time and time again I stopped playing. I had a better chance of hitting the lottery then I did to get something from these online places. If you notice, look how many screenshots are in the show me the money threads from Microgame compared to RTG. MG's shots are plenty and RTG are not. Not like it used to be. So I can see the OP's point on this one.

It will be interesting to see what platforms are still around when and if gaming on line becomes legal in the USA. But when and if it does, I am sure you will see a decline in RTG casinos, because I know many people will be heading straight for Microgame.

All the best,
LH


I have to agree on the rtg observations. The features are hard to get and this is even true for slots that are rated as having low/medium volatility. On ordinary spins, 50ak of any symbols pays much much more than 4oak but you rarely get the former so normal spins get you nowhere and you will only get around an rtp of 50% or less.

As for Jennifer's 500000 spins, I find it impossible that nothing really exceptional was hit though she might have considered anything less than 10000x bet was unworthy of consideration. At $1.50 per spin, she endured 500000 spins so her rollover amounted to at least $750,000 and she would have busted long ago with a bankroll of $24000 if she hadnt hit anything.Even if she had busted in the end and discounting the losses at table games this amounts to an rtp of over 96% and this not something to be sneezed at.
 
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