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Thrills/raffle

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by aceking123, May 2, 2016.

    May 2, 2016
  1. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    So i've got a e mail from them today stating you've won the raffle , the head of the e mail clearly states you've won the raffle,im taking the meaning of this is i got first place in it & per header that has come my way. ( i haven't opened the e mail as per yet )

    So it got me thinking before i open this e mail , it clearly does not say you're a winner in the raffle or you've won a prize in the raffle , clear heading states you've won the raffle, anyone else had this today ? or is it misleading & false on their part ? ?

    I've been struggling with their software over last few weeks & haven't been playing due to the problems loading slow spins etc etc.

    Just thought i would ask the Forum to see how other members see this/read this as i know this could be very misleading indeed

    Any thoughts please ? ?
     
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  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Who not open the email and go from there?
     
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  5. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    i shall do ) im just a sceptic on the way of online headers to be honest , my immediate thought was it could be very misleading , clearly im not stating that as such it is i could be wrong wouldn't be the first time , but i was just asking to how people would see this or read it )
     
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  7. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Well, yes, but you're asking if we read the title as misleading based on the contents of the email without knowing the contents of the email in order to fairly judge the title
     
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  9. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    As a header it's very misleading.

    But once you open it, you'll probably find, like I did, that it's made VERY clear that you've won 10 free spins.

    I've noticed that English is a second language for a lot of casinos, so that's maybe the problem, rather than deliberately trying to mislead :rolleyes:
     
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  11. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    If it's the case above that you've merely won a few spins...it's ambiguous, but not exactly misleading, if the raflle has more than one prize. Technically winning a raffle, be it 2nd-100th place is technically true, though most would assume they've gotten the main prize and could be better worded. 'You've won' might be more apt if it's a secondary, tertiary prize etc.
     
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  13. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    If someone was to say to an athlete 'you have won the race' it would mean they came first, not second or third.

    it's unambiguous.

    saying you won IN the race, would be ambiguous
     
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  15. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Though someone who when asked, 'where'd you get that $500,000' may easily respond, 'I won the lottery' even if the major prize was 3.2 million and other prizes after were less..noone would say 'I won IN the lottery'
     
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  17. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    Hi yep , it's clearly displayed on header that you won the Raffle ( header states Thrills, you won the raffle.******** , the winners of the raffle have been................

    Clearly that is my point i shouldn't even need to open the e mail to collect first prize of which it is ( not sure on that one what the prize is ) either way looks like this could be very misleading to others players as well not just me.

    I'm not suggesting that i did not place first either , im just going by what i have e mailed on front of e mail from thrills .

    Badly written false or misleading headers should be a no go in this day & age .

    Anyway i shall update the thread when i've opened the mail )
     
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  19. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    yer i get this , the point to me asking was , as header says , Thrills. you won the raffle. this means you have won the raffle.

    Also im not sure if any of the forum reps might have a view on this from other casinos ? point of view & all that ?
     
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  21. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    That's just lazy 'speaking' English. And also said from the opposite position, where a little ambiguity can be allowed for

    If the lottery phoned you and started the conversation with "you've won the lottery". You'd be well-pissed off to find that you'd only won $10

    P.S. noone is not an English word
     
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  23. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    And you did win the raffle I assume - perhaps not first place.
    I could argue it's not misleading, but it would be rather long going into definite and indefinite articles and coming down to semantics.
    Sure the casino could have written 'you've placed in the raffle' but ulitmately, it's areally a non-issue as you simply open the email and discover the contents.
     
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  25. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    Which is the whole point of misleading mail headers
     
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  27. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    It isn't really. It does follow the rules of grammar without being unnecessarily verbose or pedantic. And of course, let's be honest, as this thread proves, the header generated more interest than writing 'you didn't place first but there's some small consolation' - marketing does come into play to.

    I've agreed it could be worded better. But really, one just has to open the email - painless really - to see what they've won.
     
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  29. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    I have just sent myself an email headed :-

    THRILLS

    " Congratulations Mr ***** you have won feck all in our raffle, not free spins or even an email. Have a good day". :(
     
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  31. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Again, misleading is debatable here. It's ambiguous at best imo.
     
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  33. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    Okay, it's the whole point of misleading and ambiguous email headers
     
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  35. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    ok well i opened the e mail , clearly the header states i had won the raffle , upon opening it yes i had won 10 free spins well that isn't what the header is stating in any shape of form .
    hahaha

    Well as already pointed out , again the wording that i had indeed won the raffle , clearly needs addressing & they should be adding £2000 to my account along with all the other players ) , no e mail in any competition whether that be raffle or race should start with you've won the raffle or race , this in english terms means first place.

    bahhhhhh i give up Thrills hopefully the rep shall chime in here when they get chance )

    Thanks guys for your help ))))
     
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  37. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    in your opinion. I disagree to the former but accept the latter. :thumbsup:
    Anyway, I assume the op will open his email to find he's won. If there's no prize to be found, I fully accept it to be a completelymisleading header.
     
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  39. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    If it makes you feel any better, all I've won today is an all-expense paid trip to the front door and back several times over to let the dog out so he can come right back in :D
     
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