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Thrills - Max Bet on Bonuses very low??

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by hoff1985, Sep 19, 2014.

    Sep 19, 2014
  1. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    Hey Guys,

    i wanted to give Thrills a try but realized that they have insane max bet terms...

    I usually deposit a 100$, but at thrills the deposit doesn't matter...

    ". The maximum bet that is allowed to be placed when playing with a bonus is €5/$6/£4 per spin and €0.1/$0.1/£0.1 per Bet line "

    Well 6$ per spin totally fine, but 0.1$ per Line??

    That means on a 15 line slot i'm not allowed to play more than 1.50$ per spin with a bonus no matter what amount i've deposited...

    I should have read the terms before MORE DETAILED, just looked at the 6$ bet... But yeah i already deposited, so i'll just stick with some 243 liners and see how it goes...

    Of all the casinos i play these are probably the hardest max bet rules i've seen, but only because of the "per line" thing.

    I did try to get my deposit back before i started to play wiht the bonus, but yeah, no luck :)

    SEE CHAT:

    name: Andre
    email: xxxxx
    Question about MAX BET
    20:48
    Hi Jarno
    20:48
    Hello Andre
    20:48
    So i checked the terms for bonuses
    . The maximum bet that is allowed to be placed when playing with a bonus is €5/$6/£4 per spin and €0.1/$0.1/£0.1 per Bet line
    20:49
    So $6 is fine, thats usual but 0.1$ per line
    Does that mean for a video slot with 20 lines
    I'm only allowed to bet 2$ ??
    That would be the first time i see something like this :)
    20:53
    Yes
    20:53
    Ok good to know
    20:54
    I haven't played can i ask you to withdraw my funds back to Skrill (even if there's fee), i would like to cancel my deposit and to close my account
    I'm sorry i haven't read it clearly but i play lots of casinos and i never found one where i'm not allowed to play at least 4-5$ with a 100$ on usual 20-25 line slots
    20:55
    100$ deposit i've meant
    20:56
    You would have to wager your money once even if you would forfeit the bonus.
    20:57
    ok
    then i'll just wager it through
    It was worth a try
    20:57
    Cool. Is there anything else I can help you with?
    20:58
    no
    thanks
    bye
     
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  2. Sep 19, 2014
  3. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    That's fine for those who only deposit small amounts, but what about their high rollers? You can't expect a high roller to be content depositing a four figure sum and then having to stick to $1.50 bets or less on the regular slots. Even $5 is a bit low for many high rollers.

    Either they don't apply this rule fairly (as in, to all players as stated in the terms), or they have no high rollers to have complained about it.

    Some casinos would void your winnings for "grinding out the WR" with bets that low per line, yet at Thrills it's the MAXIMUM bet allowed.

    When it comes to some of the early 9 line slots in Microgaming, like 5 reel drive, the MIN is 25p per line.


    When it comes to our B&M arcades. 10p per line is the max bet for Children's slot machines:p

    Machines for adults start at 25p per line on fruit machines, and go up to a max of £2 for the big £500 jackpot games.

    They really shouldn't be calling it "Thrills" casino, not with a max bet of 10p per line.
     
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  4. Sep 19, 2014
  5. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    never had any problems with thrills concerning large bets including on bonuses , seems mighty odd ive always been paid very quickly from thrills there a very nice outfit
     
  6. Sep 19, 2014
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    It would be worth checking. This could be a recently added term which means your current style might get you into trouble at some point.

    If not, it would mean they are not applying this term in an honest and fair manner, but might be using it as a means to have a "spirit of the bonus" option at their disposal.
     
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  8. Sep 19, 2014
  9. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    well theyve sent me a e mail today for the weekend double im shall go & have a look ive had my account there a fair while & always been treatd fairly well from them , update upon checking e mail )

    update the term is there but i have played IM at 3.90 so maybe thats why ive never had any problems

    8. The maximum bet that is allowed to be placed when playing with a bonus is €5/$6/£4 per spin and €0.1/$0.1/£0.1 per Bet line (or equivalent in any other currency) until the play through requirements of the bonus have been met. This includes double up wagers after the game round has been completed. For example, wagering winnings from X game round on red/black.

    im reading this as i can play any slot upto £4 per spin ? ?
     
  10. Sep 19, 2014
  11. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    Yes i tried that weekend double, and busted out...Thankfully. The Max Bet rules scared me away....The 0.1 per line is just too risky for me.

    But yeah besides that i heard good things about Thrills.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2014
  13. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    i think that term needs to be addressed to be honest , like ive said my account has been stable for a good while & i know for a fact ive spent above this loads of times & have always been paid . if i play BDBA i may play that at 1.80 so im breaking the term?
     
  14. Sep 19, 2014
  15. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

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    Bah, not a funny term.

    I played a casino in january with the same T&C`s.

    Asked the CS and had no sufficient answer and never played this casino again.
     
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  16. Sep 19, 2014
  17. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    Yeah maybe you're lucky... But if you see my chat transcript from earlier today CS was very clear about this.
     
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  18. Sep 19, 2014
  19. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    hmmm i shall contact the rep to get that clarified )

    sent a email to erik to see wether he can find out whats going on with that term , hope it helps in the muddy waters as such
     
  20. Sep 19, 2014
  21. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    yeah i would. Just to be sure!
     
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  22. Sep 19, 2014
  23. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    most casinos have the 10p a line bet when using bonus been bought up in a good few threads in recent weeks,
     
  24. Sep 19, 2014
  25. Finn

    Finn Senior Member MM

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    I think usually the bet line limit if there is one is 10% of the maximum bet, so turning €0.1/$0.1/£0.1 into €0.5/$0.6/£0.4 would be much better.
     
  26. Sep 19, 2014
  27. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    I forgot,

    Yes max line is 10p but but remember you can also point your coin up, so example;; DOa 9 lines at 10p = 90p but you can go up to 4 coins brings up to 360 so not far of the max bet but certainly no where near for high rollers,
    Thunder struck 2, 9 lines 10p line = 90p x max 5 coins = £4.50 spin so again near limit

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  28. Sep 19, 2014
  29. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    But that's just a coin value of 10p, the actual line bets would still be 40p and 50p
     
  30. Sep 19, 2014
  31. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    You are misunderstanding the term I am sure.

    It's a 10p per line max, and although you are using coins of 10p, if you bet 5 per line, that's 50p per line you are betting, a considerable breach of this term.

    If playing a traditional 9 liner like Thunderstruck, you can only bet 90p, not £4. For Munchkins, the max bet is £1.50, which is 10p per line @ 15 lines.

    It's not such an issue with slots like Immortal Romance because they use "ways", not lines, hence it's the overall max bet of £4 that matters.

    If you play the "classic" slots, often having 1 to 5 lines, the max bet could be as low as 10p, and at most 50p. This is well below the overall max bet of £4.


    In effect, you are REQUIRED to "grind out the WR on minimal bets" by this term, something that is usually AGAINST the rules as it comes under "irregular play" or the dreaded "spirit of the bonus".

    These terms are not too big a problem if players deposit small amounts at a time, as they are little different to the % of bonus rules that most casinos have. The problem comes when players deposit large amounts, as such players tend to play bigger bets, and may not realise just how LOW their max bet is under the rules. For example, betting £3 per spin on Munchkins would violate the terms, but for many, this is considered a "grinding" bet on this slot as it's variance is relatively low. On the other hand, betting £4 on Immortal Romance is allowed, and these "ways" slots can have VERY high variance, far more than slots like Munchkins, and thus this opens a way to drive a coach and horses through the intent of this term, whilst keeping to the letter of it. After a nice hit on IM, you can play Munchkins at £1.50, and they can't claim this is "grinding" the remaining WR because it's the MAX bet allowed.
     
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  32. Sep 19, 2014
  33. PaaskeDenmark

    PaaskeDenmark Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

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    Only me who find 10 free spins on Lights for regular players an insult?? :p won massive £0,03

    PS I decided to leave them in my account as I am afraid breaking any terms and conditions of max bet :D

    Oh forgot its cash so thats nice £0,03 lasted couple seconds 1 spin on starbucks 3 lines....
     
  34. Sep 19, 2014
  35. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    I may of ballsed up trying to work things out a usal, If that is the case than it is terrible, But it states 10p per line, so could there be an argument if using coins as well? as still under the max bet rule,

    Like VWM said when it comes to terms about grinding out ect what else are you ment to do, Especially now when Ive been hearing about the auto play now being at only ten at a time due to new rules, If you have a few grand then you be sitting there all day and night pressing, I take abonus as Im a low roller so unless I hit the max bet button due to stupidity than this should nether effect me, But what about all theses high rollers,
    How may times have people deposit a good few grand than after a few deposits win big to come to find they broke the 10p line spin? I no its been said many of times but casino basic saying hang on we wont say nothing and keep leting you deposit but as soon as a win than oh you broke rule,

    I do not understand why big deposters even take a bonus? espeally 50% on it? with all theses rules it is crazy to even think about bonus, The worst bonus I Ive seen recently is slotmagic with a 10% bonus with a 30x wager on deposit and bonus
     
  36. Sep 20, 2014
  37. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    The rule for autoplay is 25 max, not 10. It's there as a means of ensuring players have "break points" during a session where they have to make a conscious decision to carry on, rather than a conscious decision to stop. There is also a requirement to prompt players regularly regarding how long their session has been.

    Whilst having an actual value specified is clear, it fails to cater for the full range of players. Other casinos will specify in terms of % of bonus credited, and this is where high rollers can be catered for as if they deposit big, their actual max bet is proportionately bigger. For example, on a % basis, a high roller depositing £1000 for the 50% bonus would be able to play up to 10% of the bonus, which would be a £50 max bet, For the average player who might deposit £100, the same rule would give them a £5 max bet.
     
  38. Sep 20, 2014
  39. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    all free spins come without any wagering ,doesnt matter how much you win ive had quite a few 100s from them , my normal deposit is a 100 -150 depending , so i must be breaking the rules without knowing about it ( glad hoff pointed it out .like ive said ive always found them fair & havnt run into any problems at all regarding payments or rules broken , theyve always paid very quickly
     

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