This Is Vegas Owe Me 80,000 USD

Meanwhile, a player on RiverBelle posted a winning screenshot of $80,000 on 10-hand video poker (natural royal, $100 max bet), and he says the casino is working with him to get him his money. :thumbsup:

Am I the only one who wishes I could play on RiverBelle? LOL

I cashed out $31,500 on riverbelle a few years ago ( Hit royal on joker poker playing for $10 a hand, then hit another one 2 hours later playing for $25 a hand :p) and my money was paid in full within 7 days. They are fantastic and their customer service is second to none, very nice people to deal with.
 
Meanwhile, a player on RiverBelle posted a winning screenshot of $80,000 on 10-hand video poker (natural royal, $100 max bet), and he says the casino is working with him to get him his money. :thumbsup:

Am I the only one who wishes I could play on RiverBelle? LOL

I wish I could play at RiverBelle, 32Red, etc...That is where all the screenshots seem to come from.....Let us in!!!!
 
River Belle use high level (early 19th century*) dirty tricks on their customers.

They delete their live chat, right in front of your eyes.
At first when I saw it I figured it was a bug in the chat.
But have seen it on numerous occasions.
For instance if you are talking about claiming a bonus, a question like; have you met your wage requirement. If they say something like; "I just had a look then and you have met it." Then about 2 seconds later what live chat said gets deleted and they say; "Still looking into it for you."

This is probably the most advanced dirty trick I have seen yet.

* 19th century dirty trick as opposed to 18th century dirty trick which includes but is not limited to stalling you when you wish to withdraw.
 
Meanwhile, a player on RiverBelle posted a winning screenshot of $80,000 on 10-hand video poker (natural royal, $100 max bet), and he says the casino is working with him to get him his money. :thumbsup:

Am I the only one who wishes I could play on RiverBelle? LOL

Working with him you say? They should pay up asap, what does this imply??
 
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First ever post in here, wanted to credit Belle Rock for their professionalism since winning this, they've paid me quicker than normal and are a credit to the Casino world imo.

WHAT A HIT THOUGH!

So he has already been paid. I don't know when this hit actually occurred. But since he raves about them, I presume it was not that long ago (as he also claims he's "still in shock").
 
Casino monitoring

I was reading through the terms of a certain site and remembered reading somewhere on this thread someone said that casinos dont watch players...Im copying this from the site....4. All casino games are monitored by (casino) at all times. As a result (casino) has the ability to track and review each hand/roll/slot pull/spin for each player and game offered. I took out the name because not sure if I can post it or not.
 
I was reading through the terms of a certain site and remembered reading somewhere on this thread someone said that casinos dont watch players...Im copying this from the site....4. All casino games are monitored by (casino) at all times. As a result (casino) has the ability to track and review each hand/roll/slot pull/spin for each player and game offered. I took out the name because not sure if I can post it or not.

IMHO MGS Casinos definitely tag you after a withdrawal, a prime eg here is just before Xmas I had a mediocre withdrawal from 32Red (£500), recently I have deposited with all 4 of their casinos for the monthly bonuses including x3 deposits at 32Red for all bonuses, only on one occasion did I manage to get my balance above starting amount and this was only 5-6 credits, the actual play time was beyond abysmal, it was identical at all four of their casinos.. coincidence?, I think not.

In the same breath I deposited earlier at Virgins and had my 5th consecutive withdrawal, where over at Sky Vegas it stands 2 from 2, and 3Dice it`s 4 withdrawals from 5 deposits!!!!!!!!!.
 
I always wondered, when a casino decides not to pay the player his/her winnings do they at least refund them their deposits?
That all depends on how rogue they are, I guess...

BTW, This Isn't Vegas has been taken over by the same people who run Paradise 8 and Cocoa - does anyone think they were aware of this issue before they signed on the dotted line...? :confused:

KK
 
IMHO MGS Casinos definitely tag you after a withdrawal, a prime eg here is just before Xmas I had a mediocre withdrawal from 32Red (£500), recently I have deposited with all 4 of their casinos for the monthly bonuses including x3 deposits at 32Red for all bonuses, only on one occasion did I manage to get my balance above starting amount and this was only 5-6 credits, the actual play time was beyond abysmal, it was identical at all four of their casinos.. coincidence?, I think not.

In the same breath I deposited earlier at Virgins and had my 5th consecutive withdrawal, where over at Sky Vegas it stands 2 from 2, and 3Dice it`s 4 withdrawals from 5 deposits!!!!!!!!!.

I didn't think this was allowed - how did you slip through the net?

That all depends on how rogue they are, I guess...

BTW, This Isn't Vegas has been taken over by the same people who run Paradise 8 and Cocoa - does anyone think they were aware of this issue before they signed on the dotted line...? :confused:

KK


They could always use the "William Hill defence", and say responsibilty rests with the previous owners, since no record of the debt was passed to them when they bought the operation.
 
They could always use the "William Hill defence", and say responsibilty rests with the previous owners, since no record of the debt was passed to them when they bought the operation.


Except that this is total rubbish ofcourse. When you buy a business all assets and liabilities get transferred. It's up to them to do their due dilligence at the time of purchase.

If there are concealed debts like this the correct action is for the player to recover them from the new company and the company would recover the amount from the previous owners.

Goodness knows how William Hill ever got away with it tbh. I'm certain they would have paid up had the player taken legal action against them. It would have been expensive and stressful though which is maybe why that case faded away.
 
Except that this is total rubbish ofcourse. When you buy a business all assets and liabilities get transferred. It's up to them to do their due dilligence at the time of purchase.

If there are concealed debts like this the correct action is for the player to recover them from the new company and the company would recover the amount from the previous owners.

Goodness knows how William Hill ever got away with it tbh. I'm certain they would have paid up had the player taken legal action against them. It would have been expensive and stressful though which is maybe why that case faded away.

William Hill stated that because the player had AGREED to take only half, rather than wait 30 years for the full amount, this settled the debt with no liabilty passing to William Hill.

The problem I have with this is like when you are robbed at gunpoint. Of course you AGREE to hand over your wallet with a gun to your head, but this "agreement" in such a situation does not hold water.

It's the same with this Canadian player, it was a virtual "gun to her head" as in "take CAD$2m now, or trust that we stick around for the next 30 years to pay you in full". Of course she is going to have half right away, rather than risk the very real likelihood that after several months, the payments would become less regular, or the group disappear.
Ginve the number of casinos that have gone bust, she really had no choice in the matter. This was not a negotiation, it was an ULTIMATUM.

We now have the SAME situation with TIV. They have sold on the casino with this case of $80,000 unresolved. However, the previous owner disputed the validity of the winnings, and voided them. They probably did not appear "on the books" when they were passed to the new owners.

We had the same thing with Grande Vegas too. When Jackpot Capital group took them over, they made it clear to players owed money that the BEST Jackpot Capital could do was to contact the previous owner to ask them to settle the debt. Jackpot Capital ALSO used the "William Hill defence", but I believe they may have partially backed down in some cases, as this didn't go down at all well with the members here.
 
If you had got $2mCDN it would make sense to invest some of that on a legal action with a view of getting some kind of negociated settlement. It's pretty sick that the player had to do this but for a limited investment the chance of getting a good deal more would be very high.

Certainly taking the $2m would be no bar to taking action as any 'full and final settlement' would be thrown out by the courts. As you deduced above it is like having a gun to your head and there are many many cases where this has happened before and the wronged party has gone back for the rest.

I used to know the original case for this situation and it was in 1600 and something so it is a clearly established right. The precedent was that if someone offers you part payment for full settlement of a debt you can take it and then sue them for the rest once you are confident they can pay you the rest of the money.

The William Hill 'defence' was never a defence atall but was a pure bluff. And they seemed to have got away with that one.

Taking action against William Hill would be straightforward but it get's much harder I think when you are dealing with a company like TIV who will be based somewhere weird no doubt.
 
The William Hill 'defence' was never a defence atall but was a pure bluff. And they seemed to have got away with that one.

That would depend on how you define "got away with". Their reputation within the community has suffered enormously over the past few years and what you'd hear said about them when industry people meet would make your ears burn. That kind of "got away with" often comes with a very high long term price, not that they give a fat rat's arse if the bottom line today doesn't show it.
 
So Max, CM - do you have any away with the new owners and would you suggest i attempt to contact the new owners of TIV or do you believe that would just be going down a dead end path ?
 
"Sway" is a Bryan thing, I've flagged him on your post.

(you can do this too using 'Report Post')
 
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This happens at every single Online Casino.Not Only Rival.
Like somebody said,there is there either somebody,who's monitoring your playing or an automated system
.I'd go for the ''Somebody''.
What's is doing somebody working at Live Help Chat at 1:00,2:00am......or mush later?.Rigging the Casino Games obviously.It's obvious how you lose your money so quick.This makes me sick really.Knowing,that there is there somebody winding you up with The BULLSHIT Randomness and The RNG(Random Number Generator).Slowly they are stealing your BANKROLL,they're waiting and when you fell confident and arise a little your bets,BANG!,here you go a strike of bad luck?.
For me is the Operators,specially knowing that there're operators working so late.Really?.To make sure nobody wins,in case somebody does,just some money not so much.
Disgusting really.I'm fed up with the Random story,even with Micrograming=MicroRigged!.
Apparently once you have hit a number,playing at Roulette and if you keep betting the same numbers what Microrigged sofware is the following:Either is somebody or an automated system.I believe is somebody,who actually adjust The Microrigged software for you to lose.SCUMBAGS!.
Something like this:I have covered almost all the 37 numbers,and suddenly of the 6 numbers left,appears not twice,THREE TIMES,along another one that is uncovered as well.Then I keep betting in the same numbers,and the number ,that appeared before,keeps appearing every 4 or 5 spins?.Absolutelly manipulated MicrorRigged!.
Is The operators,as far as I know.
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May I suggest you donate your money to one/some of the charities listed here https://www.casinomeister.com/donate/ rather than online casinos.
 

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