# This is 1/2 a post, lol RE: roullette

#### babs7262

##### Banned User
Hiya

I just remembered my brother was telling me that his friend and colleague has a roullette system that is 100%. I just emailed and asked him to explain it to me again

I thought someone out here might know it. He personally watched him 3 days in a row in Vegas and he won every single time. Now mind you, you have to start with \$1500-\$2000 and it takes a couple of hours to reel in the money but it works

Im hoping he remembers. It's the way he bets on every number without coming out even or losing. He wins every time and over a certain span of time he comes out about \$3000 ahead.

#### SlotsWizard

##### Dormant account
Hiya

I just remembered my brother was telling me that his friend and colleague has a roullette system that is 100%. I just emailed and asked him to explain it to me again

I thought someone out here might know it. He personally watched him 3 days in a row in Vegas and he won every single time. Now mind you, you have to start with \$1500-\$2000 and it takes a couple of hours to reel in the money but it works

Im hoping he remembers. It's the way he bets on every number without coming out even or losing. He wins every time and over a certain span of time he comes out about \$3000 ahead.
It probably involves betting on nearly all of the numbers, in such a way that 91% of the time he will win, but if he loses, he'll lose big.

For example, sometimes I do this with European Roulette (but I have a feeling you are talking about American Roulette if it's in a B&M) but the principle is the same:

Place 1 "unit" (could be \$1, \$5, \$10, whatever) on numbers 0 through 33. Then place a hedge bet of another unit on the street bet (3 numbers) for 34, 35, 36.

On average, 34 spins out of 37 will win me 1 unit (if 0 through 33 are rolled), but for the other 3 spins (if 34, 35 or 36 are rolled) I will lose 22 units.

91.89% of the time I go up by 1 unit
8.11% of the time I go down by 22 units

There is no 100% strategy on roulette, there simply cannot be. It's impossible, period. He is risking a lot of money, especially if he is under the mistaken belief that his strategy cannot fail. It will eventually fail.

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#### Kaynos72

##### Dormant account
You can beat the roulette, but if you get caught you risk big. All the systems work pretty much the same, you use an hidden computer to calculate the decelaration of the ball.

After a few spins of the ball, the computer will calculate the probable 1/8 sector where the ball will land. This give the player a huge advantage.

Most other legal way you find on the internet always involve the martingale system. You pretty much bid on a color and double your bet if you loose. But in the end, it's highly risky cause if you get a streak of red (while you bet on black) for more than 7 in a row, you risk hitting the table maximum and loose all your money.

#### steinhaug

##### Senior Member
You can beat the roulette, but if you get caught you risk big. All the systems work pretty much the same, you use an hidden computer to calculate the decelaration of the ball.

Not sure if this is the same, but many real roulette tables are not correctly in balance. Meaning that it is not random where the ball will land, it could be that on this table there is a much higher chance that the ball will land on <16. There was a court ruling in england on this, where a couple wandered around with an earpeache and a little computer - punching in the numbers over time to find the flawed tables. In the end they won a lot of money, and were cought. The casino sued them, but when the trial started the casino dropped charges.

Why you must ask? Pretty damn obvious, if the casino did go for the couple they would be admitting that the table was flawed and not random. By not doing so, they state that the couple had a dumt invention that didnt work - but got lucky.

#### happygobrokey

##### Dormant account
i believe the manipulation kimss suggests was merely that the wheels were slightly tilted. but as they are spinning, each number section gets its share of time on the "low" side, so it stays random, just with another imperceptible variable thrown in (the slight tilt from 0 degrees horizontal). the wheel itself is not weighted at all.

they do this so that you can't determine how a wheel plays. if all the wheels are perfectly level then you could study and determine with the right gadgets how they will behave. but they switch the wheels from table to table so the same table does not always have the wheel that you "know".

#### SlotsWizard

##### Dormant account
All righty then, you cheaters!

It's the way he bets on every number

Somehow, I don't think the physics of the roulette wheel and whether or not it's out of balance is the kind of system that Babs was talking about - you wouldn't need \$1,500 or \$2,000 if you could predict where the ball was going to land all the time, you would only need \$1!

#### Kaynos72

##### Dormant account
It's the way he bets on every number without coming out even or losing. He wins every time and over a certain span of time he comes out about \$3000 ahead.

Show me a way to cover 100% of the wheel table and still comes out ahead or even everytime, it's impossible.

#### SlotsWizard

##### Dormant account
Show me a way to cover 100% of the wheel table and still comes out ahead or even everytime, it's impossible.
That was exactly my original point. There's absolutely no way to do it.

#### babs7262

##### Banned User
Im tellin ya

my brother saw it with his own eyes but didnt have the patience to do the whole thing. He was with this guy for three days and this guy won every time.

I emailed him again for the explanation. He told me once already but I have a short attention span after 5 minutes, I got distracted

I know about the color thing because he mentioned that too. The guy would often wait for 5 straight of the same color and then play and double but if you lost 12 times in a row it would wipe you out, he saw it go 12 in a row when he was gonna try and decided not to do it. This other system he has takes hours to really come ahead. Im not into that game at all so that's why he didnt have my undivided attention

I dont know...Ill have to wait until he emails me back

#### happygobrokey

##### Dormant account
i heard of a betting style that uses two (or three?) 6-way bets of 3 units, and a square bet of 2 units, and it covers practically every second section on the wheel's layout, and nets you a positive overall result (obviously) when it hits. so this gives you a nice chance of hitting on the wheel, since if you miss it is only by one panel each time (barring one or two numbers next to the zeroes iirc). i believe it was called the action number system, but i don't have the details in front of me. but, of course, you still need to get lucky and have your numbers come in more often than not.

#### SlotsWizard

##### Dormant account
iyou still need to get lucky and have your numbers come in more often than not
This statement sums up every gambling game perfectly.

#### NASHVEGAS

##### Banned User - flamming, disrespecting admin,
This statement sums up every gambling game perfectly.
SW, cover for me if you are not as worn out as I,lol, and explain to all who just do not get it what the "Risk of Ruin" is. Thanks,Nash.

#### NASHVEGAS

##### Banned User - flamming, disrespecting admin,
This statement sums up every gambling game perfectly.
with the only exception being BJ in the long run along with the ability to count cards without error.

#### SlotsWizard

##### Dormant account
SW, cover for me if you are not as worn out as I,lol, and explain to all who just do not get it what the "Risk of Ruin" is. Thanks,Nash.
Nah... I prefer to leave the really complicated stuff to the real
...

I did find a simple, elegant explanation from Googling around:
The likelihood of losing all of ones bankroll
Which pretty much sums it up.

#### babs7262

##### Banned User
I hope you guys know...

that I do agree with you about this. I dont even play the game. I was just mentioning it. Im still waiting for the email LOL. in all honesty, he travels all week long.

I dont believe in sure bets and even told him that when he told me this story. Honestly, if it wasnt my brother telling me this, I wouldnt of even mentioned it in here. I really think the guy did what one of you said about covering just about every number with different amounts and happen to win every time.

Lets just drop until I hear from him because I cant defend something I don't know

#### SlotsWizard

##### Dormant account
Lets just drop until I hear from him because I cant defend something I don't know
But do post it when you hear it because I'm curious.

Also, if your brother works for a living, then that says something about how good his system is.

#### babs7262

##### Banned User
LOL SW

he didnt do it, his coworker does it. He only plays BJ every now and then when he travels to Vegas on business. He is Regional VP of a computer Co and travels all week long. Maybe Ill hear from him this weekend.

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