Official The UKGC is officially considered 'not fit for purpose'!

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The Parliamentary Committee looking to overhaul UK gambling has confirmed what we know - the UKGC is incompetent, acting outside its boundaries and obsessed with problem gamblers as opposed to the structure and operation of the industry and its businesses:

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"From the evidence we have seen, we believe that the Gambling Commission has become imbibed with an overtly anti-gambling ideology and is actively seeking to ‘get the industry’."
 

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"From the evidence we have seen, we believe that the Gambling Commission has become imbibed with an overtly anti-gambling ideology and is actively seeking to ‘get the industry’."

Give me the job, I’ll soon sort the scamming b*#^_~*s.
 

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Can we get some of the stupid decisions such as autoplay removal reversed now, please?!

Also perhaps the casinos can stop being overly draconian on casual players??

I wonder whether there has been a lobbying behind the scenes. I’ve had a few casinos now ask me to join a ‘players panel’ so that player’s views can be put across to try to prevent further rot of the industry.

Either way, the UKGC has been seriously undermined here.
 
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The ukgc are subjected to an attack from gambling outlets lobbying mp's and for once I I sort of support such practice.
 

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The Parliamentary Committee looking to overhaul UK gambling has confirmed what we know - the UKGC is incompetent, acting outside its boundaries and obsessed with problem gamblers as opposed to the structure and operation of the industry and its businesses:

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I read the article. It's completely from an industry perspective. The complaints are all from the casinos about how the UKGC has been screwing them over.

I'm not British so it doesn't affect me directly, probably more indirectly. But, I'm wondering if any over UKGC overhaul will benefit the player? Like casinos holding player withdrawals hostage while an extensive SOW investigation is requested. Or if your politicians will just give the casinos more "discretionary" power?

(Don't mind me. Just casually turning the ship back to the original topic. . . )
 

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I read the article. It's completely from an industry perspective. The complaints are all from the casinos about how the UKGC has been screwing them over.

I'm not British so it doesn't affect me directly, probably more indirectly. But, I'm wondering if any over UKGC overhaul will benefit the player? Like casinos holding player withdrawals hostage while an extensive SOW investigation is requested. Or if your politicians will just give the casinos more "discretionary" power?

(Don't mind me. Just casually turning the ship back to the original topic. . . )
It will likely focus more on the provider and end user (us!) and become a more balanced commission as opposed to one with an agenda, where things will be simplified a bit. Hopefully.
 

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I doubt it, considering that everything the UKGC has done has been under governmental instruction.

They are not separate entities, they are part of the same monster.

Basically, the UK government has commissioned an investigation into a governmental body that make decisions based on governmental policy approved by the government. It's a bureaucratic farce and complete waste of money. Not much will change.
 

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Plenty of people on here have issues with gambling but will be in denial until the cows come home myself included
Since i came to work in 'the west', multiple countries, i was able to see the many facets of the people, by depending on situations/whos interacting with, so much puke inducing fakery that makes them at their core unknown to themselves, who they really are, but they dont know different either. Creating personas on-the-go, they call it living, i call it existing, such a plastic sense of happiness. 1 in 5 persons is a shell, no one is home, no common sense, continously needs tasks/warnings given by a higher power just to survive the life, and they happen to look like humans, might look sophisticated even. Everyone is doing great and brilliant if asked yet most of them are on antidepressants to bear the life in general, no clue what real hardship is, i cant say shit without being seen unhinged or too direct or plain weird. Thats the downside of invading tribes to which i dont belong so i dont judge but now and then is good to come with clean hands, leaving aside comfort zones, safe spaces, microagressions, and state the things for how they are. Ive said many times about my pathological gambling issues here and im very sure ill end because of these issues because the 'earthly' cures dont work on my stubborness and ill never have money to attend a proper clinic to be locked 1 year into so i learned to accept this self inflicted fate, case closed, and just like you, shapesy, i recognize a chunk of membership here suffering from such issues, hopefully to a milder level, that put more emphasis on their account status and how they are seen in this casino-society, some living their life on the forum instead of seeking help. Its in the genes, upbringing and all that, so 'the denial' will continue, if the facade is falling, for some theres nothing left as they became so acustomized to anything gambling-related to the point of becoming ill. I fucking hate the pretenders that are spending 'only what i afford to lose' only to go balls deep behind the scenes, being in denial for the sake to dont jump a multistore building in the aftermath or pull a neonclows. Met them in the landbased in multiple countries where ive spent the salaries and the free time, in online is no different, watch the chat of a streamer of choice entirely or read this forum 2 weeks straight, they are out there, ILL or VERY ill. There is a solution to this over here to those that might be saved still(from death even, when social help stops, family stops involvment and the boss give ya the boot), nuke winner screenshots section fully, switch quit gambling at the top of the forum and encourage them to come out of the closet in a way to dont feel that their reputation is tainted. Not gonna happen because this is a business. But guys, if you made it to here and i made your eyes bleed for the lack of paragraphs or else, stop fooling yourselves(you know who you are), leave the tabu aside and state loudly that you are ill, drowned in this pay-per-view animations where you'll never win in the real sense. You are a (bunch of) loser(s). Just like me. Keep on being tho, just like me. Just dont create apperances you silly shells...
 

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As long as there's humans there'll be those that find ways to be self- destructive, whether long- term or in compulsive pangs......not sure banning online gambling outright will have the desired effect you believe it will.

Though in all honesty the current lepered state of the industry could do with a bit of a great reset (that one's for Geordiecolin)

Hopefully soon the industry will crash and blow up into smithereens, from which a more fair, transparent and player- friendly ecosystem can emerge, you never know....

If anything needs banning from a destructive societal point of view it actually ought to be Social Media, and yes I'm being serious. Easily more damage wrought from that globally than any drunken impulsive gambling binge
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My bank sent me out a letter saying "lets talk about gambling" and a leaflet to get support how patronizing can you get?. This nannying has to stop! I discarded it as after my bills are paid I will do what the fk I like with my money. :thumbsup:

Don't worry, Dave. I got one around the same time too. And while I've been kinda hoping for some sort of letter from the bank over the past week or two which would save me the hassle of having to pop in the bank to pickup proof of address to use for the KYC to at Novibet, this wasn't quite the one l had in mind.
 

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Don't worry, Dave. I got one around the same time too. And while I've been kinda hoping for some sort of letter from the bank over the past week or two which would save me the hassle of having to pop in the bank to pickup proof of address to use for the KYC to at Novibet, this wasn't quite the one l had in mind.
I know this was a serious reply but this tickled me 😁. What you can do is go in your banks info part in online banking and screenshot that for the casino and combine this with other address screen grabs from PayPal neteller skrill amazon etc then they can’t argue it. Just tell them you do electronic statements 👍
 

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The Parliamentary Committee looking to overhaul UK gambling has confirmed what we know - the UKGC is incompetent, acting outside its boundaries and obsessed with problem gamblers as opposed to the structure and operation of the industry and its businesses:

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I bet the gamblers in the parlement got sick of no auto play.
 

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The Parliamentary Committee looking to overhaul UK gambling has confirmed what we know - the UKGC is incompetent, acting outside its boundaries and obsessed with problem gamblers as opposed to the structure and operation of the industry and its businesses:

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Must say that after years of flagging the UKGC's various stubbornly stupid policy decisions it's nice to see that an official review has come to pretty much the same conclusions. Unfortunately the hostile environment created by the UKGC has driven a number of very good people out of the business and that's something that can't be undone. They're gone and they ain't coming back.
 

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Must say that after years of flagging the UKGC's various stubbornly stupid policy decisions it's nice to see that an official review has come to pretty much the same conclusions. Unfortunately the hostile environment created by the UKGC has driven a number of very good people out of the business and that's something that can't be undone. They're gone and they ain't coming back.
Ditto on that. A licensing jurisdiction ought to be, in my humble opinion, primarily focused on the player. Making sure that the player is being treated fairly with licensed and continually audited gaming software, responsible gambling safeguards, proper payment processing, fair promotions, and of course - a way for players to have disputes handled by qualified and experienced staff.

The only jurisdiction that does ANY and ALL of this is Kahnawake. The rest of these licensing jurisdictions are just a money grabbing political posturing bunch of folks that have barely any experience dealing with players.

Gamblers are like people who are beer drinkers - most folks do this socially, or to relax, or chill out - but then you will have folks abuse this as well. But the abusers are the minority - not the majority, as the UKGC's PR representatives (The Guardian) will lead you to believe. You might as well put a group of nuns in charge of a keg party. Nuns don't understand beer drinkers and probably think they are misguided, or have deep seated problems. The same attitude comes from the folks at the UKGC - they treat players the exact same way.

The first thing a licensing jurisdiction should do is set up a players' complaint center, ethical and acceptable operating procedures, and a support/training center for operators. The operators need to know in black and white - what is expected and the do's and don'ts of their licensing terms. What training has the UKGC set up for their licensees? Maybe there is something going on in the background, but I'm not aware of anything. In other words, the UKGC has nothing to offer their licensees but grief.

When the UKGC first launched their online licensing branch, they chose to delegate the complaints to ADRs - that was a massive red flag to me since it just underscored their inexperience. It drove home a point that they had no clue on what they were embarking on. Look at them now - they are killing their own industry, and loads of decent upstanding operators are bailing from the UK market. I don't blame any of them, and in fact I encourage it.
 

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The only jurisdiction that does ANY and ALL of this is Kahnawake. The rest of these licensing jurisdictions are just a money grabbing political posturing bunch of folks that have barely any experience dealing with players.

Amen! And the whole reason why I expect nothing to change following this charade of a report and complete waste of taxpayers money.
 

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