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The thing about political rants

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by Nifty29, Jan 25, 2012.

    Jan 25, 2012
  1. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    I've been reading the political section quite often. I post when I feel I have an educated POV (OY!! I HEARD THAT!!)..... but not being in the US and not being informed about the local and intricate stuff means I seldom do.

    One thing does strike me though. It seems US people are even more polarized than we are here. It appears you either love Obama and the dems, or you hate them...and the same with republicans. In just about all debates I've seen, people get quite ugly and take opposing political views almost as a personal attack.....and its this aspect that fascinates me.

    I did go through a stage where politics was important to me, and was a member of a political party for years. However, it occurred to me over time that I, a regular citizen, wasn't important to the party.....except of course at election time or when they needed something. The whole idea of a party to begin with looked increasingly undemocratic. We vote for regional representatives, but when members of a party they realistically cease to truly represent those regions, because the party line will always come first, and the only time truly local issues are dealt with is in marginal electorates during election campaigns....and most of them never make it off the ground. We vote for an idea. A certain view of the country as a whole. So, why not just vote for one party or the other and let them choose their own members of congress according to the % of votes they receive? What do others think?

    Anyway I'm wandering now. The point is that while a two-party adversarial system exists there will never be much room for fresh thinking and real change. What the vast majority of democracies have these days is huge lines of self-interested career politicians with their noses in a very deep trough.....a trough being filled by the taxpayers. Politicians don't want change...most work their whole life towards getting their snout in that trough, and I've yet to meet one who refused to get stuck in with all the others.

    I'll finish with telling you about the old guy who lived next to my grandfather. He was a grumpy bugger. He lost his leg in the war so I guess he had reason. Anyway, I remember being out playing cricket with my dad and cousins at grandpas and he would lean over the fence to talk to dad, and amongst the expletives was the strong message "I can't stand this robbing bastard government I can't wait to vote the mongrels out etc". Dad always laughed about it afterward as he went off on the same tirade even after an election lol. It didn't matter who it was, he just wanted to vote them out.

    Aren't people funny when it comes to politics?
     
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  2. Jan 25, 2012
  3. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    Well you know me and my political stance, I try my best to refrain from speaking of my overall political beliefs here, saving them for forums they are best suited to.

    Politics has such a complex and intricate infrastructure, and is solely built around a split voting mass, and heavily relies on not pleasing all the people all the time ethics, not so much the perfect aspect of the latter but it`s opposite, if you have a government pissing off 100% of the voters you are in trouble, deep trouble.

    These perfect voting scenarios began around the same time as the class systems evolved, each having a political party that suited their personal needs.

    A split nation is a controllable nation, a united nation = civil unrest and possibly a civil war.
     
  4. Jan 25, 2012
  5. klara1968

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    WE ALL remember that in a place we have 2 persons,there are at least 3 opinions.Same with doctors,teachers,parents,human beings,and yes,yes,politicians too...
     
  6. Jan 25, 2012
  7. Nifty29

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    Interesting thoughts. Keep 'em coming!
     
  8. Jan 25, 2012
  9. klara1968

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    And BTW...we must remember that all of us,every one of us,politicians too-we all need a warm hug...(most of us never admit it).
     
  10. Jan 25, 2012
  11. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    You forgot the political key to war here.......Religion, this has been a huge tool in human manipulation since the days man 1st graced this planet, governments have introduced religion in so many key aspects of life so as we never forget :rolleyes:, from the day we`re born (christenings), school (assembly and grace before meals etc, etc), weddings, funerals, courts of law (I swear by almighty God etc, etc), Military (Holy wars). So we are basically spoon-fed that God exists from the day we`re born until the day we die, this is not because we all herald from nations that are religious fundamentalists, it`s for the pure power that religion bears down upon the nations worldwide......

    Let`s for arguments sake declare war on some country because it has huge mineral resources, ooops we didn`t get much backing from the tax-paying nation there, let`s change the reason, now we are declaring war against a country that hates our democracy, freedoms, and our God, damn, there we go.

    Here`s the hypocrisy kicker, after going through life that starts with and ends with a God related event (and a few in-between, wedding, court, Xmas, etc, etc), we can do nothing other than believe that God exists, hell we even swear on his name before giving evidence, and we will fight to the death in religious based wars in keeping the faith, so he must exist, no doubting that .......... Now see what happens if you tell someone you have personally spoke to him.
     
  12. Jan 25, 2012
  13. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    No doubting the benefits of a good old fashioned snuggle :).
     
  14. Jan 25, 2012
  15. Nifty29

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    The way that religion has become deeply entwined in the political landscape of the US in particular is quite fascinating. It seems to be more so each year, from an outsiders POV.

    Over here, the churches, catholic more so than others, held a lot of sway when it came to who their congregations voted for right up until the 70's. Nowadays, if a priest were to even allure to the subject of politics, most of the congregation would walk out. Australians became fed up with "politics from the pulpit" and sent a clear message to the various religious hierarchies that they wanted a clear separation between church and state and that they desired only guidance of a spiritual nature.

    IMO, the US people could take a leaf out of our book. I'm seeing religion being used as a political and electoral weapon every time I tune in to the latest election news e.g the recent GOP primaries. I see different branches of the same faith supporting different candidates and voting almost as a bloc, led by their respective pastors and leaders.....and given the kind of money being thrown around in US elections, it doesn't take a genius to work out that much of the religious bluster by candidates and church leaders alike is just a smokescreen for backroom dealings and bought promises, just like any other lobby group. Hell, conservative Christians are even backing candidates whose personal lives read like something out of bold and the beautiful, so it has nothing to do with God or wrong or right or anything else. It's about what most religions, and political parties for that matter, are about...money and power.

    The way I see it, if you need some hypocrite pastor or Jimmy-Bakker-wannabe to tell you who to vote for, then you don't deserve the right to vote.....and until this kind of thing is stamped out, nothing will change in the US and the downward spiral will continue to be perpetuated by those of both political persuasions with their eyes firmly closed and their snouts firmly in that trough.
     
  16. Jan 25, 2012
  17. harrys99

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    I just hope that Mickey Mouse and his buddy Donald Duck don't come out and vote like they did in 2008. They made a pretty poor choice IMO and definitely didn't deserve the right to vote.

    Can you say ACORN:p
     
  18. Jan 25, 2012
  19. Seventh777

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    No one likes to be reminded of their countries dark past, and i`ll be the 1st to admit that through history England has been a complete ass hole regarding our treatment to others, especially those from the British Isles, but, the history of, in particular the Bush family makes me seethe with anger, from Granddad Bush and co selling arms to both Germany and the allies during WWII, Bush senior being instrumental in the assassination of JFK, to dubya`s involvement in a rigged election, hushed and brushed under the carpet allegations of accomplices being involved in paedophile rings and the highly suspicious 9/11 fiasco.

    `But we would never kill our own, that`s just plain stupid` is the cries of many, think again.........

    History of American False Flag Operations

    The leaders of smaller and less industrialised nations are not madmen (whatever the media claims). They also are generally better informed than their citizens. In a war an attacker does not need equal forces compared to the enemy. The attacker needs a 5-fold local superiority, or better. No one begins wars without very definite objectives and a quick victory in sight. If a war with more even military balance erupts, someone has been mislead and walked into a trap (usually arranged by third party).

    After the American war of Independence (1776-1779), and an English challenge to that independence (1812-1814) no single nation has planned an offensive war against the USA. It is probable that a strong coalition of Anglo-French-led European nations planned to split the USA into two states through diplomatic recognition of the Confederate states possibly followed up by naval blockade embargoing the Union. At that time the British Empire was the strongest naval power, and the French the second strongest. The events led, however, into the Civil War (1860-1865) and due to the Russian intervention 1863 (1863) on the Union's side, those European plans were quietly abandoned.

    Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48: Long series of operations, commencing with the annexation of Florida (1819) and followed by a declaration of independence of Texas from Mexico (1836). Provocative troop movements near the U.S. southern border caused an incident which led to war. (It is said the US built a fortification 150 km inside the Mexican border.) The annexation of Texas by the USA and the conquest of California, New Mexico, and nearby territories followed. Mexico had a weak government at that time, because after Napoleon conquered Spain (1809) their former colonies soon revolted. Mexico had been a colony of the Spanish kingdom but now they revolted and formed a republic. There were a series of revolts, not just one.

    Spanish-American war, 1898: The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba. 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The USA declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards.

    World War I, 1914-1918: A U-boat torpedo hit ocean liner Lusitania near Britain and some 1200 people, including 128 Americans, on board lost their lives. Subsequent investigations revealed that the major explosions were inside the Lusitania, as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition, as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation to help their clients, the Britain and the France. It was against US laws to transport war materials and passengers in the same ship.

    World War 2, 1939-1945: A U-boat torpedo hit the ocean liner Athenia near Britain with some 1100 passengers, of which 311 were Americans. The sea was calm and only 118 people on board lost their lives. The ship was sunk because it behaved like a military transport, blackened out and zigzagging. This incident wasn't enough to precipitate war, and the Germans also refused to be provoked by several American acts of war. Americans confiscated German merchant ships, and Americans started to support the British with various lend-lease items, US volunteer pilots joined the RAF and some RAF pilots were trained in the US, US gave the British 50 old but usable WW1 destroyers and 20 modern torpedo boats, tanks, light bombers, fighter aircraft like P-40s and so on. American destroyers also escorted the convoys bound to Britain, and attacked German U-boats even far away from those convoys. The US did not maintain a neutral stance attitude towards the warring nations.

    The US naval intelligence, chief of Japan desk planned and suggested "8 insults", which should bring Japan into war with the US. President Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and also added some other insults, enraging the Japan. The most serious one was a total blockade of Japanese oil imports, as agreed between the Americans, British and the Dutch. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japan and forbade them the use of Panama canal, impeding Japan's access to Venezuelan oil.

    The Flying Tigers volunteer air group successfully fighting the Japanese in China with some 90 fairly modern P-40Bs was another effective provocation that is not generally acknowledged by historical accounts of World War 2, most of which fail to mention any air combat action prior to 7th December 1941. But at that time the Japanese had already had lost about 100 military aircraft, mostly bombers, to the Tigers. After Pearl Harbour these squadrons were some of the the hardest-hitting ones in the US service.

    The attack on Pearl Harbour followed some 6 months later. Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbour. Americans even gave their friends the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic. But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration.

    Two scapegoats, the navy commander Admiral Husband Kimmel, and the army commander Lt. General Walter Short were found incompetent and demoted as they were allowed to retire. Short died 1949 and Kimmel 1958. In 1995, the US Congress re-examined this decision and endorsed it. Then in 2000 some archive information came to light and the US Senate passed a resolution stating that both had served in Hawaii "competently and professionally". In 1941 they were denied vital information, and even on presidential orders purposefully mislead into believing that the Japanese fleet could be expected from the south-west. These commanders have yet to be rehabilitated by the Pentagon.

    Korean War, 1950-1953: South Korean incursions (the Tiger regiment etc.) into North Korea (1949) led to contrary claims and into war. The cause of this war probably was covert action involving leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the US military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities.) After the unpublished hostilities in 1949, the communist powers were strongly backing North Korea.

    Chiang Kai Sek was being abandoned, isolated and falling prey to the powerful communist Chinese operations. The right-wing South Korean ruler was expected to loose the soon-to-be-elections. The American military-industrial complex went into high gear again, and huge government orders for equipment were flowing in.

    The American-led UN forces had difficult times early in the war, but after sufficient forces arrived they advanced victoriously and penetrated deep into the North Korea. The strong Chino-Russian intervention into the war once again turned the tides, the Chinese with vast armies on ground, and the Soviets less visibly with large numbers of aircraft, nearly costing the UN forces the war.

    Finally the front stabilised along the original 38th parallel armistice line. The war resulted in the death of 3 million Korean Chinese and the destruction of virtually all of the Korean cities, and left Taiwan in strong American protection and South Korea firmly in the hands of the right-wing president Syngman Rhee. Some 55,000 Americans lost their lives.

    Vietnam War: "The Tonkin incident", where American destroyer Maddox was supposedly attacked twice by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats in 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. What was happening at the time were aggressive South Vietnamese raids against the North in the same general area. Huge American presence wasn't decisive and President Nixon negotiated a "peace with honour" in 1973. This war was lost, when North Vietnam finally conquered South Vietnam in 1975.

    Grenada invasion: The Grenadian leader, Maurice Bishop, favouring the left and having invited Cubans to help build the infrastructure including by extending the airport to accommodate long range Soviet aircraft, was deposed and executed in October 19, 1983. Six days later the US invaded, with the proffered reason that the American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The new leader supported by the US favoured more traditional values and the right.

    War on Drugs: The war was launched by Richard M Nixon sometime around June 17,1971. The drug problem was found bad within the army in Viet Nam around 1968 prompting action was required towards the end of the war. Nowadays it is estimated that the military will never win the War on Drugs. The street prices of illicit drugs did not change significantly in the USA despite the military action in foreign drug-producing countries. The Colombian experience, with local military supported by the US, has shown that peace is more important than war against drugs. The Colombians have successfully negotiated some 1000s of guerilla fighters back into the society and out of jungle.

    This "war" actually seems to be a pretext for military invasions into less developed countries, where covert "bad" drug lords on behalf of western intelligence services are producing drugs into US and first world markets. This operation produces huge incomes, generating black budget money for those intelligence services managing the global drug operations.

    Panama invasion: The incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand control of the canal over to Panama was cancelled. The strategic importance of the canal has surpassed any more just thinking in the US global domination policy.

    US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988: The US has built power bases in the Middle East in Iran starting with the CIA-organised coup 1953, where Iranian prime minister Mossadeq was replaced with the Shah of Iran Reza Pahlavi and he by his son Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Iran was equipped with the best western military equipment, including the American F-14 fighters with Phoenix missiles and the British Chieftain MBTs. Unfortunately there was in 1979 a coup of ayatollah Khomeini replacing the Shah and founding an Islamite nation.

    After this, the US warmed up relations with their good Iraqi friend Saddam Hussein, and started to build a nation capable of challenging the Iran. Iraq acquired large numbers of effective weapons including factories able to produce older versions of gas warfare agents. These would later be called WMDs, which of course they were not, being the WW1-vintage weapons.

    The war broke out and was fought to exhaustion because third-party powers, especially Israel, were carefully monitoring the power balance supplying more weapons to the side which seemed to be loosing. "Too bad they both cannot loose" is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.

    Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991): Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Sr. mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.

    War on Terror: The war was launched by Bush administration October 2001. The war was claimed to be the response on terrorism, especially the 9-11 incidents. Most of the people in the world today know that these reasons are false and that those events were based on MIH type (make it happen) inside job.

    Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 7.10.2001-: Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, a Saudi-Arabian Osama bin Laden was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the WTC and the Pentagon. Such a complex operation, if actually executed which it was not, in this case would be much beyond the capabilities of anything in Afghanistan. Only some top ten intelligence services in the world could hope to be successful in such an operation involving forgery, infiltration, living "underground" in a foreign non-Muslim country, coordination of moves, illegal arms, hi-quality flight training, accurate aircraft navigation in no-visibility conditions and so on. Perhaps even less, because the friends of the US (at that time, still most of the world) would also have been interested in stopping the attack.

    Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003-: later known with less irony as Operation Iraqi Freedom The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the US with wmd's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them has been made. Since no wmd's were found, and after the Iraqi also scrapped some 800 long range Scud style missiles before the US coalition attack, the reason for the invasion was changed into "bringing the democracy into Iraq".

    Makes ya feel proud to be part of it, don`t it :mad:.
     
  20. Jan 26, 2012
  21. Nifty29

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    I have to admit there are a lot of "wow" moments in there.

    Excellent compilation BTW.

    I'm surprised some US members haven't commented. It would be interesting to know if there's another side of the coin.
     
  22. Jan 26, 2012
  23. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    Yw, I borrowed VWM`s keyboard for that one :cool:, at the moment he is writing a reply that should be with us by the end of March :eek2:.
     
  24. Jan 26, 2012
  25. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

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    I, for one, have chosen to read and ignore. Sorry, not going to get into the 'US is a bad, bad nation' debate.
     
  26. Jan 26, 2012
  27. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    It`s not the nation that is bad, on the contrary, Americans are a damn fine breed, hell they fought bravely by our side in two world wars, the questions here are corruptness in governments, and believe me, I believe that Tony Blair was as instrumental in the London 7/7/2005 *terror attack* You must register/login in order to see the link. as Bush was in the 9/11 fiasco.
     
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  29. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    Slight derail but kinda on topic, anyone else noticed the swing in film genre`s atm centring around huge political figures?, J. Edgar Hoover, Margaret Thatcher, and by all means Marilyn Monroe.

    Also, this makes for some very interesting reading, and imho answers the main argument put forward by debunkers involving false flags and felonious acts undertaken by corrupt governments, regarding the people involved and possible whistle-blowing.

    Before you look at the relevant link a quick briefing, it was well documented that the man (Jack Ruby) whom shot dead the man (Lee Harvey Oswald) alleged to have assassinated JFK, claimed he was injected with some form of cancer cells......

    "And so Jack Ruby, on December 9, 1966, - exactly one day after he had learned that his new trial was going to be held in February or March 1967 at Wichita Falls, about 140 miles from Dallas - was stricken with a mysterious disease first diagnosed as a common cold, then as pneumonia and finally as generalized cancer.

    For more than three years, with a death sentence hanging over his dead for most of the time, Ruby had been as fit as a fiddle in the custody of Dallas Sheriff Bill Decker. At no time before December 9, had the prison doctor who visited him regularly, detected any flaw in Ruby's splendid health. But now, with a new trial in prospect in a different place, death quickly overtook the man who knew perhaps more than any other living person (with the possible exception of David Ferrie, then still totally unknown to the public at large) about the real background to the assassination. He passed away in the morning of January 3, 1967 - and another inconvenient trial was happily averted."

    But anyway`s, here is the link.........

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  31. anniemac

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    And therein lies the rub.

    Americans are a damn fine breed. However, we tend to be tarred with the same brush as the people that run our country. Believe you me, if my vote meant a damn thing, we wouldn't have what we have running the country now. I am not Obama bashing. He has about as much power as I do. He, or whoever is President, can make speeches about what they are going to do while in office until their face turns blue and unless the Senate and House of Representatives want it, nothing is going to change. Our country is being run into the ground by a bunch of greedy, power hungry fools with no other interest except their own.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not apothetic. I will exercise my right to vote til the day I die. I just wish my vote meant somethng.
     
  32. Jan 26, 2012
  33. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    I hear ya hun loud and clear, this statement sums up politics very well......`I`m not racist, but you can still vote for me if you are`.
     
  34. Jan 26, 2012
  35. cpdnd31

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    You know I try I try hard to stay out of political conversations. For the most part they bore me. However since you mentioned some things I would like to respond. I love my country, it has been my home the only home I know. I love the fact women can speak there minds and not be afraid. I love the fact my children can play in a safe bomb free environment. Yes and get a education as well. But these are the things that bother me. They say we are separated from church and state. They do not teach religion of any kind in a public school, but yet look in every court house and there is a God there. Look at are money. We have freedom of speech yes compared to most countries we do however now they want the right to monitor the internet. They say everyone should have health plan, but first they need to fix the health field when you pay 400 for an aspirin because you have insurance and the same guy without it pay 4.00 something is wrong. I rather be uninsured lol.

    I feel lately in our country its the 70s movement all over again. The young people want to be heard, they want change. Most are sick of the political scandals its embarrassing when you teach your child to never send any kind of photo on there phone and the next day there is a politician busted for sending nude pics. It's sad to see people who have lost everything and then listen to a politician say its there fault. Why why is it there fault when you were elected to guide our country. You let China tax us 25 percent but yet we only tax them 3. You let our American companies go overseas for cheaper labor and materials. You took every moral standard out of our school system yet you blame us. I am a proud American but also saddened by the political greed. It's no longer about what can your country do for you and what you can do for your country. It's about and it hurts to say it how your country has screwed so many in there quest to amass the most. I am grateful for what I have and every day when I watch the news I remember how grateful to be.

    America is beautiful but it also has its slums and right now its Called Washington DC.

    If our politicians can't work together what lesson are they teaching our children. I swear I think some of them need to go on play dates and learn how to share there toys lol.


    Ok rant over . Feel better and I hope you understand my thoughts.
     
  36. Jan 26, 2012
  37. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    Sure do hun :), I get many questions regarding my stance on things, the main one being `Why do you care so much about all this, it doesn`t effect you?`, because I want a decent world for my children and theirs to grow up in, shouldn`t all of us want this?
     
  38. Jan 27, 2012
  39. gloria460

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    I'm a middle of the road kinda person. I wish the politicians were but if they were then the people who are on the right and left would vote them out of office. The only ones who aren't afraid to vote their conscience are the ones retiring or got voted out.

    Can't have it both ways. We want our politicians to work together but at the same time to stay true to their party. They are there to promote the well being of the USA and protect it's borders...it's a freaking joke. It's all about who can get the most toys and sling the most dirt, distorting the truth and thinking that the American people are dumb.

    I truly wish that everybody in congress and the house of representatives would get voted out and people with backbone and ethics would get elected. Officials that couldn't be corrupted by greed and promises of lucrative lobbying jobs when they leave the government...I know it's a pipe's dream but maybe our children will see it in their lifetime.

    I've resigned myself to cable only for the remainder of the year as I'm sick of the nasty ads already.
     

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