The slow death of the online casino bonus

[L&L-Jan]

The cashback and reward points are just bonuses by another name.

Thanks for the feedback. However I cant really agree here.
For me a bonus is a incentive or compensation with specific terms.
Doesn't apply on No Bonus.
Your cashback is cash, no bonus and if you prefer you can withdraw the cashback.

Kind regards,

Jan

 

[brianmon]

Cashback is good if you normally don't play with a bonus

But the problem with cashback is that it's usually a negligible amount of 5-10% - and you have to lose to get anything - lose £100, get £5-£10 back.

So if you were to make 10 deposits of £100, and lose them you'd get 10x £10 or £100 back.

But since cashback is normally paid straight into your balance, each £10 will basically be added to your next deposit, and more than likely spent without any benefit. which is the way casinos like it.

If however, the cashback was allowed to accumulate, and be claimed whenever the player wanted. Then things would be different. But the casinos wouldn't like that.


If you made 10 deposits of £100 with a 100% bonus. You'd only need to convert one of those bonuses (with a closing balance higher than your starting balance) to have got more back than with cashback.

Plus, having twice the starting balance, you could either bet higher, or for longer, in the hope of a decent win

 

[ricky]

Thanks for the feedback. However I cant really agree here.
For me a bonus is a incentive or compensation with specific terms.
Doesn't apply on No Bonus.
Your cashback is cash, no bonus and if you prefer you can withdraw the cashback.

Kind regards,

Jan

if anything NO bonus casino should focus on tournaments and VIP tournaments

(but you probably dont even have a playerbase to make them worthwhile LOL)

Why would i want 10% cashback where i can get 15-20% cashback at casinos that ALSO give deposit bonuses???

What a junk operator

 

[Deleted member 49134]

No Bonus Casino isn't new, I remember playing there a few years ago. They offer daily cashback on all losses - something like 5-10% if I recall correctly, and you have to have made a deposit and ended up with a zero balance on that day to qualify (or something along those lines, I don't remember very clearly - but the terms are a bit strict). So as @osulle said, a not really great if you're a low roller. Personally I agree with his/her post - bonuses give me extra play time, and I think this is why they're so popular. I'd rather take a small 100% bonus and get to play slightly higher stakes for longer than a 15% cashback that doesnt really give me much

 

[kazzi]

Love my bonuses, but its soon over im sure new regulations in denmark from 1st January.

Max bonus is up to 1000kr with 10x wager doubt many casinos gonna offer those, even freespins wins can max be 10x wager, my vip bonuses is 10x but doubt they gonna offer that to everyone casino's will be loosing too much 10x is very easy to beat.

 

[Bloatgoat]

Could someone explain me when for example, 100 euro is added to my account as bonus money (some VIP manager assigned this on his own behalf onto my account) and that the hit frequency of that game seemed far higher then anything usual then when i played with my own money? I keep noting this that it's far more hard to play with genuine money compared to playing with bonus money.

Once you exceed what you where supposed to wager, the game seems to turn back to 'normal' and getting those frequent hits is far more harder. How is this even random? Lol.

 

[dionysus]

well, they cant flip it on and off, so i imagine it only seems that way

 

[nickg]

Could someone explain me when for example, 100 euro is added to my account as bonus money (some VIP manager assigned this on his own behalf onto my account) and that the hit frequency of that game seemed far higher then anything usual then when i played with my own money? I keep noting this that it's far more hard to play with genuine money compared to playing with bonus money.

Once you exceed what you where supposed to wager, the game seems to turn back to 'normal' and getting those frequent hits is far more harder. How is this even random? Lol.

If the game is rigged, then yes you could have changes in house edge depending on bonus play versus real money play. But if the casino is legitimate, the game is unlikely to be counterfeit and therefore its probably you feeling more relaxed about bonus money than real play money (maybe)

 

[Ruder]

When the game goes to the bonus you play more relaxed.Not afraid to lose them. And when you play on your deposit, you develop a feeling of fear that you can lose them.
Return on slots in licensed casinos you can not put. Quite another if you play in casino scripts.
Once again I remind you to play only in those casinos that have been accredited here on the site.

 

[shewoff]

It is always in the house's favor to begin with, Bloatgoat. The idea that you become more relaxed with bonus play is not really the way the casino look's at it.Odd's and the number of roles per minute.It is all worked out to a math of number of roll's vs. odd's,or the house.It seem's a bit nasty when you look at the 1st 100 goes like grease thru a goose.And then the next 150 is slow as syrup on a cold day. If you play the same game enough.It is possible to see the way the game spin's ,the speed,and the number of FS's you get. I have seen that when I increase my bet's the game MAY respond with a number of win's. And it either takes it all back or you play on and after you clear whatever bonus or free money from the casino.Well it is gravy after that.Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff

 

[Bloatgoat]

They creditted a few times of bonus money into my account since i played pretty big. But when playing on my own money, the hit frequency seems far lower then when playing on bonus money. It's like your doing free play vs real play or something. Once you where lucky enough to wager what was required, the uphill rollercoaster is done and everything seems to turn back to normal. I'll proberly never understand online casino's since i'm more of a landbased casino player. Fuck it.

 

[goatwack]

**** me, the fellow goatster is back!

 

[Bloatgoat]

**** me, the fellow goatster is back!

Yes, still questioning the online slots vs landbased slots theory. Online is just shit.

 

[TheAddict]

Welcome back goatster 2.0.
Looking pretty sharp in your latest facebook picture you handsome devil!

 

[Greigssy]

Maybe I've missed this mentioned elsewhere on the forum but I'll stick it here.
I got an FS offer from a Butlers Bingo site, so decided to log in and was greeted by the new updated bonus terms.

3.6 Unless stated in the specific terms applicable to any Promotion, any Casino Bonus awarded will be subject to a 50 times Wagering Requirement. What this means is that Your Casino Bonus Monies derived from that Promotion will become Cash as soon as You wager 50 times the value of the Casino Bonus initially awarded to You.

3.5 Where a Promotional Restriction consists of a Wagering Requirement, different casino games will be regarded as providing different percentages of the relevant Wagering Requirement, as follows: most Slots 100%, Roulette 8%, Blackjack 8%, Other Games 0%. Bets placed on the following slots will contribute 75% towards the Wagering Requirement:
Retro Reels, Retro Reels – Diamond Glitz, Retro Reels – Extreme Heat, Hot Ink, Reel Gems, Dragon Dance, Bikini Party, Wild Orient, Lady In Red, Scrooge and Loaded, Immortal Romance, High Society, The Great Albini, Playboy, Leagues of Fortune, The Finer Reels of Life, Jungle Jim – El Dorado, Cool Buck 5 Reel, Isis, Jurassic Park, Break Da Bank Again, Mystic Dreams, Bust The Bank, Deck The Halls, Dragonz, Fish Party, Fortune Girl, Girls With Guns – Jungle Heat 90, Girls With Guns – Frozen Dawns, Golden Princess, Pretty Kitty, Rhyming Reels Georgie Porgie, Secret Romance, Titans Of The Sun – Hyperion, Titans Of The Sun – Theia, and Untamed – Giant Panda.

So for anybody that plays there the wagering has gone from 40x to 50x and if you want to play a HV slot its 62.5x, the mind boggles as to why slots like Immortal Romance and Jurassic Park etc are considered wagering friendly.

 

[RickyMicky]

As I see the topic is not discussed, then online casino bonuses have died at all.. or not?

 

[Reelsoffun]

My land based casino sometimes sends me ND bonus with only 1x wagering don't often get to use them these days being not local anymore.

Shame you never see that online lol

 

[Playford7]

Get some great offers from the white hat lot, 300%, 200%..
Ain’t played for over a month as the industry seems set up to mimick the fobty now with the silly bonus buys and the parasites playing £10 a spin.
The offers are there, sadly the slots and entertainment value doesn’t seem to be.
The industry was always shady, sadly now it’s of a standard I no longer wish to partake in.

 

[RickyMicky]

My land based casino sometimes sends me ND bonus with only 1x wagering don't often get to use them these days being not local anymore.

Shame you never see that online lol

I put it wrong, I meant that bonuses in online casinos are not popular at present. I see a lot of them, but I do not believe in any or see any sense in it.

 

[RickyMicky]

The industry was always shady, sadly now it’s of a standard I no longer wish to partake in.

Yes, that's right. I see the same tendency.

 

[bianchini82]

Could someone explain me when for example, 100 euro is added to my account as bonus money (some VIP manager assigned this on his own behalf onto my account) and that the hit frequency of that game seemed far higher then anything usual then when i played with my own money? I keep noting this that it's far more hard to play with genuine money compared to playing with bonus money.

Once you exceed what you where supposed to wager, the game seems to turn back to 'normal' and getting those frequent hits is far more harder. How is this even random? Lol.

I was thinking the same thing last night, registered to a new casino .. deposited € 100, and received 100% bonus. Real money lost in a short time, instead with the bonus money (20x wager but capped to 200eur) I won on practically every slot. Wager completed, received € 200, lost in 30 min: D. We hope they are coincidences: D: D: D

 

[Bloatgoat]

They are not really. Appearantly a casino can think of a way to give you some playing time with a reward at the end. It happend so many times to me; you wager to a certain point where the wagering requirement is finished and from that point it's either withdrawl or a one stream downwards spiral. Just because of this i avoid any bonus play at all since it has nothing for me special. I mean what is a big win anyway if there's 39x wagering ahead of you.

 

[spintee]

Maybe I've missed this mentioned elsewhere on the forum but I'll stick it here.
I got an FS offer from a Butlers Bingo site, so decided to log in and was greeted by the new updated bonus terms.

3.6 Unless stated in the specific terms applicable to any Promotion, any Casino Bonus awarded will be subject to a 50 times Wagering Requirement. What this means is that Your Casino Bonus Monies derived from that Promotion will become Cash as soon as You wager 50 times the value of the Casino Bonus initially awarded to You.

3.5 Where a Promotional Restriction consists of a Wagering Requirement, different casino games will be regarded as providing different percentages of the relevant Wagering Requirement, as follows: most Slots 100%, Roulette 8%, Blackjack 8%, Other Games 0%. Bets placed on the following slots will contribute 75% towards the Wagering Requirement:
Retro Reels, Retro Reels – Diamond Glitz, Retro Reels – Extreme Heat, Hot Ink, Reel Gems, Dragon Dance, Bikini Party, Wild Orient, Lady In Red, Scrooge and Loaded, Immortal Romance, High Society, The Great Albini, Playboy, Leagues of Fortune, The Finer Reels of Life, Jungle Jim – El Dorado, Cool Buck 5 Reel, Isis, Jurassic Park, Break Da Bank Again, Mystic Dreams, Bust The Bank, Deck The Halls, Dragonz, Fish Party, Fortune Girl, Girls With Guns – Jungle Heat 90, Girls With Guns – Frozen Dawns, Golden Princess, Pretty Kitty, Rhyming Reels Georgie Porgie, Secret Romance, Titans Of The Sun – Hyperion, Titans Of The Sun – Theia, and Untamed – Giant Panda.

So for anybody that plays there the wagering has gone from 40x to 50x and if you want to play a HV slot its 62.5x, the mind boggles as to why slots like Immortal Romance and Jurassic Park etc are considered wagering friendly.

the term goes on. Used to be but not played in a good while there. Even though its a casino bonus there is another term, slots count 50% I forget the nonsense that comes with it but the bottom line is the wager is x2 that of the 50x so, in reality, it's 100x and more if some slots do not count the full wager. This may have changed but terms got so ludicrous I stopped playing

 

[hhhelllo]

This happens everytime I claim the 50 spins valued at 0.50 EuR AT eurocasino on sundays for 30 eur deposit. The difference is systematic and so obvious that it makes me wonder.

Everytime. Lose the 30 euros in a timely manner of manage a 60 to 70 euros cashout by miracle after almost busting 3 times.
Then comes de 50 spins on book of dead. Ridiculous. Last results? 135 euros, 310 euros, 220 euros and 50 euros. Average 3 free spins bonus everytime. You might think I cleared one of these 4 bonuses with 30x wager. Not even close. Auto bust at 20-30 % of wagering. The last time I said it before playing the spins and i ended up laughing all the way after 4 bonus rounds on 20 spins. No difference? Sorry

 

[tnick337]

in all of my experiences best to take no bonus the playthru is not worth the amount of bonus given. just deposit more money if you cant do that then you shouldnt be gambling.